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Dec 22, 03
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Reason 2.5 help
Well at the moment im experimenting with the program
and the problem im having is with the redrum drum computer (cause i wanna get the basic structure of making beats down) and i applied all the necessary legnth and vel. knob shifting and on the mixer i made the treble fully to the - and the bass to the full +. When i copy the pattern the track, the special effects i added arent there...instead i get the same sample that i started out with in the beggining (e.g: the sample sounds like it had no tweaking done to it at all)......any help? 
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Dec 22, 03
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K, you can only have so many sounds in Redrum, but you can have many different patterns. Once you get a basic pattern, you can press ctrl+c to copy pattern 1 into pattern 2 then change it.
I'm not totally sure about your problem, if you try 2 explain it again I might be able to help.
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Dec 22, 03
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like tim said, i'm not too sure what exactly the problem is that you're having, but if you added effects to the redrum, depending on the order that you created the units, it will be wired in different ways. for example, if you create a redrum, then for example you create a rv7000 reverb, the way it will automatically wire it, the output of the redrum will go to the input of the reverb, then the output of the reverb will go into whichever channel the redrum was originally.
if you create the reverb first, then the reverb would wire itself to the aux 1 send and return (given you have created a mixer) now if you aren't hearing the reverb on the redrum, all you gotta do is turn up the aux 1 send on the channel you want the reverb on. now once again, i dont know if you know about this, but when you're in reason, hit the tab key. what this will do is it will flip the 'rack' around, so you see the back of all the effects, synthesizers and controllers. here you will see all the patch cords, and you can re-wire anything to anything else. and if reason hasn't patched everything together the way you want it to, then you can do it yourself :) hope this has helped you :) if you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask me, or timmy here :P cheers and happy producing
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Dec 23, 03
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haha thanx
yeah i started with a clean rack, added the mixer then the redrum machine, but i didnt add reverbs or any additional machines. I simply played around with one of the bass kicks in the red drum machine so it give more of a harder kick and all (but yet when i copy that specific pattern to the track it wont give that extra bassyness that i tweaked it out to give out...eh ill find a way :P). I know about the ctrl-c then switching at a2 and copying it in and such, and yeah i think its just the wiring. ive only been playing with reason for about 2 weeks now so you know...its all trial and error learning. Thanx again though
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Dec 23, 03
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Ya, Reason is trial and error.
Um, to get better sounds in ReDrum you might need to get better drum samples. Sometimes no matter how much you tweek it, crap samples will sound like crap. Once I get my laptop, I can send u some of my refills. `t1m
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Dec 23, 03
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thatd be awesome man
if ya got msn add me [email protected] what do u guys produce? im gonna aim for a hardhouseish track cause its best bet easiest to make...who am i to know, i havnt even made a good bassline yet :hehe:
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Dec 23, 03
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one simple trick for the redrum is to add a second 14:2 mixer devoted to the drums ... chain the mixer to the master mixer and patch out of the redrum channels into your 2nd mixer ... now you have 4 sends for your effects, and a treble and bass pot for your individual sounds too, I ALWAYS do this when starting a new project
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Dec 23, 03
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George, why don't you just set it up as your default?
lol reason the endless program... i've been using it for 2.5 years and have not seen the end of it. never will anywho... sometimes when copying the pattern made in the redrum to the sequencer you won't get the full effect you made. cou;dn't tell you why, but one thing i could suggest is make your pattern in the sequencer and then do your FXs after!? this is how i do it! but you'll find your own way of laying things out!
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Dec 23, 03
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the vocoder BTW needs a controller.. i find using the subtractor is the best for this due to it being a mono out! if you don't know what i mean! www.reasonstation.com and download a demo of the vocoder to see what i mean!
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Dec 24, 03
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`t1m PS - I need sample cds! IF anyone has quality sample cds (including Akai & Giga Sample Cds) please get a hold of me. No crappy shit. Professionl shit. Spanish Guitars is what im looking for, but anything I don't have would be great. I have 3 gigs and i'm willing to trade.
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Dec 27, 03
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bozga - the effects wont copy to the track if you didn't hit the little red eq button above the eq knobs. if you did, then try changing it on the mixer when the redrum is highlighted beside the track. if that makes any sense at all. pm me.
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Dec 28, 03
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yeah The end of Reason = whenever you get sick and tired of its sequencing interface. :) Bozga, have you played with Fruityloops Studio much? I find it alot nicer/simpler than Reason for just getting beats down. Reason's a great tool for learning signal flow, but ya gotta go into a session with a well visualized idea of what you wanna do. Fruity makes it alot easier to just randomly fuck around with sounds til you find something cool.
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Dec 28, 03
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Dec 29, 03
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^I guess it's just a matter of how your creative processes work. When I have a sound in my head, I gotta get it outta there AS FAST AS POSSIBLE or I'll forget how it went. The faster it gets sequenced, the more accurate it'll be and the more I'll remember how it initially went.
maybe 'randomly fuck around til you find something cool' were the wrong words for me to use :)
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