Mixing with just the pitch control.

[soma]

Originally Posted by dj_zyx

quantizing just sequences all the material together

imagine pitch controlling each sound sample at the same time and matching them up to flow with the sound of the music.

i know dood, but to line up each loop or sample in a sequencer by ear (like djing) would be a monsterous task. can't really imagine wasting that much time in the studio. MIDI is even scarier!! lol

[dj_zyx]

^ I love wasting time in the studio! so fun, but thats just me

where can I download your mix, I saw your track listing with Mr. Oizo in there, he fookin pounds the basslines with analog junkie madness

[soma]

that mix is only availalbe off of the heineken website once the competition is over I can hook you up with a cd but for now it is property of heinken music.

canada.heinekenmusic.com => vote and listen ( you may be able to save as)

let me know if you can't save it!

[D]

I actually find mixing/beat matching with the pitch easier than touching the record! Definitely the way to go for the style of music that I play =)

[Van Tek]

pitch-riding is where it's at... sounds so much nicer than touching the platter... I've heard tight mixes get all weird because of that... my buddy had an obvious platter touch on his old demo CD, LoL, he touched it right during a hat and the hat made this crazy pitch-warp sound

[VictorVeronica]

i think its best to use both ways while mixing.

wut i found out about only using the pitch control to adjust the beatz while 2 songs ar being mixed, 1) will cause a much more noticeable change of "Bass" than touching the plates, but 2) touching the platez while mixing will create a more noticeable chagne to "high & mid" hats. so the best method to sync the beatz ar to use both methods when the songs ar in the process of mixing if the beatz werent already perfectly sync at first.

it all depends on the style of music, & the style of mixing. no method of mixing/beatmatching is perfect, & it depends really on the feeling which u earn from experience.....hope many ppl would agree wut i said :D

[Moon]

i do a bit of both pitch mixing and touching the platter.... if you touch the platter right you won't be able to tell... although that takes alot of practice and sense with the feel of vinyl on the deck... pitch mixing is alot more useful when layering house or trance beats and mixing vocals for sure .

i do a sort of slowly tightening while increasing the volume smooth transition style... haven't had many problems with this style

[dj_soo]

I use both generally - just depends on the situation.

But when mixing unquantized beats, pitch riding is a must.

[dabbler]

the more i touch a record, the more drunk i must be. lol

[Skip EZ]

yeah i use a combo between pitch control(use reset button a lot) and touching the platter.

[Kraig]

Originally Posted by Skip EZ

yeah i use a combo between pitch control(use reset button a lot) and touching the platter.

Cheater. LOL. j/k I never do that simply because if you show up at a show and it's an old skool deck, you've developed a bad habit.

[stringbeans]

if i had techs at home i'd practice riding the pitch more. unfortunately, ttx's have a slight delay when changing the pitch so you cant ride it as much. im fine with touching the decks anyways. whenever i need to slow or speed up a track i make sure i do it by touching the record/platter softly

[klockwize]

id almost think using the reset button would be a little more tricky!
i have the MK2's so i cant say ive used the reset button
im just more comfortable just using the pitch control and tapping the platter.....i find it more hands on..... are more comfortable...but thats just me! =)

[Skip EZ]

Originally Posted by Kraig

Cheater. LOL. j/k I never do that simply because if you show up at a show and it's an old skool deck, you've developed a bad habit.

usually works out fine.....been doing it long enough to cope with an MK2....i just find that 2 quick touches on that reset button and its way more precise than using the pitch fader.

[mystery]

Originally Posted by AWOL

are you considered a bad dj if you don't use pitch control?

YES!!!

[ill-esha]

ewww messy people get your hands off the platter!
it sounds soooo fricken sloppy when djs push the record, i can always hear it. it's so much easier and faster to get your mixes up to speed by riding the pitch control. i remember when i first started playing it seemed like every dj (except for slim) would push the record.. i watched slim, because he was my favourite dj, and also learned from jawbone (from TO, where everyone rides the pitch)... so i've never done it like that.

the only exception is if you're terence, wood or someone else who plays "mashup" often the rock/pop/80s stuff is either done live or sampled from tape machines and goes in and out of time. you have no choice but to push and crank the turntable, in this case it's like cranking the bellows of an old organ.

[Bryan M]

I enjoy doing a misture of the both of em,

not much of a fan actually touching the side of the platter,

i use the actuall record sumtimes ( the blank part on the inside of the record) to slowy spin it faster or slower, or touching the little spindle works for me sumtimes too,

ive been learnign the pitch for the last few months, and i must say i like it alot!,
i have a habit of using the reset button on my m3d's it works really well, but if you slip and miss the button, your fucked! haha

my 2 cents

~Bryan Mckinlay

[Royal_Phunk]

i am jus learning this skill in the last while, however ive seen people get totally fucked by using the pitch control as well they pitch it hard and back to save the mix and if you get it really outta sync, pitch will take to long to get it back. But as its a more gradual surefire way to chase the beat down im sure it will help me in the long run.

[inside]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

ewww messy people get your hands off the platter!
it sounds soooo fricken sloppy when djs push the record, i can always hear it. it's so much easier and faster to get your mixes up to speed by riding the pitch control. i remember when i first started playing it seemed like every dj (except for slim) would push the record.. i watched slim, because he was my favourite dj, and also learned from jawbone (from TO, where everyone rides the pitch)... so i've never done it like that.

the only exception is if you're terence, wood or someone else who plays "mashup" often the rock/pop/80s stuff is either done live or sampled from tape machines and goes in and out of time. you have no choice but to push and crank the turntable, in this case it's like cranking the bellows of an old organ.

Finaly some one says this! The only time u ever need touch the record is when your putting it on, cueing it and pushing/slowing the record if you fucked up the cue. Correct me if I'm wrong, once you've locked the beats u should be concentrating on mixing, there is no need to touch the record after getting it locked. You should be able to mix it out for a long time before it starts to gallop. I guess some djs vinyl fetishes are so strong they must touch the wax at all times. Still Sounds like Sloppy seconds to me.

[inside]

Originally Posted by dj_zyx

quantizing just sequences all the material together

imagine pitch controlling each sound sample at the same time and matching them up to flow with the sound of the music.

Ya it's easy. It's called Ableton Live.

[Royal_Phunk]

Originally Posted by thump666

Correct me if I'm wrong, once you've locked the beats u should be concentrating on mixing, there is no need to touch the record after getting it locked. You should be able to mix it out for a long time before it starts to gallop. I guess some djs vinyl fetishes are so strong they must touch the wax at all times. Still Sounds like Sloppy seconds to me.

i think your right. but then other variables get introduced, like in my last mix i had a bum needle @ boomtown where the cart was almost touching the record jus barely clearing it or if you have the beats locked you better hope all your vinyls are scratch free/dust free, this week im goin for a pair of shure whitelabels to take care o that one.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by thump666

Finaly some one says this! The only time u ever need touch the record is when your putting it on, cueing it and pushing/slowing the record if you fucked up the cue. Correct me if I'm wrong, once you've locked the beats u should be concentrating on mixing, there is no need to touch the record after getting it locked. You should be able to mix it out for a long time before it starts to gallop. I guess some djs vinyl fetishes are so strong they must touch the wax at all times. Still Sounds like Sloppy seconds to me.

I don't care how good a DJ you are but you are never going to get it 100% locked 100% of the time - so adjustments do have to occur on the fly. And secondly, a lot of the better DJs like to mix fast and don't want to spend 1/3 of the record cueing up the tune in their headphones. There are times when I want to get a mix started within 8 bars of putting down the record and i'd rather find the general vicinity of the pitch and finetune the beatmatch on the fly via the pitch control while already in the mix.

[FireWire]

I use both...


First, I cue by using the platter.

Second, I use the pitch control to beatmatch and to find the matching speed.

And third, I use the platter again but this time to align the beats if they are falling behind/going foward when I release from a cue.

[FireWire]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

I don't care how good a DJ you are but you are never going to get it 100% locked 100% of the time - so adjustments do have to occur on the fly. And secondly, a lot of the better DJs like to mix fast and don't want to spend 1/3 of the record cueing up the tune in their headphones. There are times when I want to get a mix started within 8 bars of putting down the record and i'd rather find the general vicinity of the pitch and finetune the beatmatch on the fly via the pitch control while already in the mix.

And yes, I totally agree with what you said.

[dabbler]

see i always mix faster than the previous record so i only have to slow it down. if i end up touching the record to do so, it's very rare that you'd hear it pitch down, cause i don't drag the platter i just tap the record and stick it in place for an instant. but %90 of the time, i mix with just the pitch controls. have for years now.