Mixing - crossfade or no crossfader?

[Moon]

it's come to my attention that i am one of very few djs who use the cross fader relgiously when i mix. combination of crossfader, volume faders and all 3 of the eq's... 4 if applicable.

but from what i see, most other djs here only use the volume faders and the eq's... is there a reason why you chose not to use to crossfader?

[C_squared]

what in the hell are you on about?

[mapleleaf4ever]

I don't use it much if at all. But then again I'm not that good yet either. :p

[Moon]

Originally Posted by C_squared

what in the hell are you on about?

haha nice try =)

[Akeel]

crossfaders are for scratching...using gains, and both faders is more precise for mixing....adding in the crossfader for that is redundant.

[Moon]

hmmmm akeel we need to jam sometime and you gotta show me just 1 of your massive selection of dj tricks.... but i gotta disagree... if the crossfader was just for scratching, why make a crossfader curve, and mixers with only 1 smooth cf curve?

it's probably because i learned how to mix using the crossfader but i just find that it helps alot in doing very long smooth mixes. when i use the gains and faders things get way too complicated.

but i think it's rather interesting that people only use the faders for mixing. that style can definetly come into good use when adding 2 more channels in the mix

[klockwize]

Originally Posted by Akeel

crossfaders are for scratching...using gains, and both faders is more precise for mixing....adding in the crossfader for that is redundant.

WHAT HE SAID!

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by k-pryde

hmmmm akeel we need to jam sometime and you gotta show me just 1 of your massive selection of dj tricks.... but i gotta disagree... if the crossfader was just for scratching, why make a crossfader curve, and mixers with only 1 smooth cf curve?

it's probably because i learned how to mix using the crossfader but i just find that it helps alot in doing very long smooth mixes. when i use the gains and faders things get way too complicated.

but i think it's rather interesting that people only use the faders for mixing. that style can definetly come into good use when adding 2 more channels in the mix

only lame trance dj's use the crossfader to mix!! check yo head martin! :)

we'll do up a jam session soon mate.

[dj_soo]

people that don't use the crossfader to mix are weird...

[Moon]

Originally Posted by Akeel

only lame trance dj's use the crossfader to mix!!

hahaah maybe thats why they always rule the top 10 best djs list! hah hah hah!

[Akeel]

^
holy shit martin! you're totally right! i should copy tiesto straight away!!

[Moon]

i'd get on it man! it would be a fine addition to the fx skillz =p

[Akeel]

i dunno if i can smile for too straight hours....

[Moon]

well tiesto is gonna be replaced by someone soon. I would think Paul Van Dyk would make a respectable number 1 dj. i don't think he's much of a smiler

[C_squared]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

people that don't use the crossfader to mix are weird...

that's what i meant w/ my innitial post.

[Moon]

maybe its a breaks and house dj thing to just use the faders

[soma]

Originally Posted by k-pryde

maybe its a breaks and house dj thing to just use the faders

WHAT!

I'll use it for cuts and break downs but you really can do with out it at times. ;)

[Moon]

bret i think with your mixer that would be more possible.... those rotary faders n all

[Mr Ektion]

when i drop in and out of places, i don't always want to mess around with the settings of the inhouse mixer. so, if i stick to the volume faders i don't have to expect any curve balls. I do wanna get into scratching because it totally adds to a good set. but i don't wanna scratch in public prematurely. i wanna get into learning the mixer effects like the flanger and stuff. or the sampler even

[C_squared]

Originally Posted by .Forwerd

but i don't wanna scratch in public prematurely.

this may cause a rash.

[tvmann]

There was a thread about this at tranceaddict.com. Almost nobody there uses the crossfader. But that's because they're mixing trance and the transitions are S L O W and they're fussy and want more precise control of the levels.

Mostly I mess around with house and the transitions are faster so I use the crossfader all the time, as well as the channel faders. I have rotary knobs for the channel faders and they can't be turned very fast.

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by .Forwerd

when i drop in and out of places, i don't always want to mess around with the settings of the inhouse mixer. so, if i stick to the volume faders i don't have to expect any curve balls. I do wanna get into scratching because it totally adds to a good set. but i don't wanna scratch in public prematurely. i wanna get into learning the mixer effects like the flanger and stuff. or the sampler even

just skip flanger...there's not much to learn, its played out to shit, and everyone hates it.

[decypher]

When i first started i knew no one who spun, and didn't have anyone to goto shows with. I used to spin with both upfaders up, a slow curve on my 05pro2 xfader, brought that in slower. Then i started using the upfaders to bring in tracks instead, made my mixes much smoother.

[dabbler]

fuck, i barely use eq's let alone the crossfader. it helps keep the levels steady over all the mixes because crossfaders adjust and compensate from one side into the middle.

[Moon]

also i noticed...

with mixers like the pioneer 600, you sometimes can't help but have to use the volume faders. it works alot differently from my vestax pcv (wow i dont even know the model number of my mixer)