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Oct 03, 05
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It's called imaging, and if you have a decent system it should sound like you're in the studio. I agree, that if your headphones aren't the greatest it might sound off, but if you have a decent pair you should be able to appreciate it. Mind you it's not prevailent in all their tracks, as it varies from song to song.
(It's also not just a Beatles thing, I have a whole crate of classic rock where you'll find that from tune to tune, usually on more acoustic tracks) 
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Oct 03, 05
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As I understood it, at the time, studio consoles often didn't include built-in pans... there was an interview with... um, I think it was John Leckie, who did work with Pink Floyd back in the day, in the last Tape Op Magazine. He mentioned asking for a pan knob when working in a studio back in the 70's, and having the assistants wheel in a cart with a box on it with a single huge knob, and that was the "pan pot"... you just put the pan pot into the main bus and routed the signal you wanted to pan to that device!
Back around then studio consoles rarely looked like the current sets of channel strips we see today... Neve and SSL setups are still modular, with the channel strips arranged by the designer of the studio instead of by the factory, and back then it was very common to have to connect a fader, eq and aux sends together with patch cables to get a channel strip. Mixers looked more like oldschool telephone switch panels than the mixing boards we know now... Apparently the common sense of the day said to either pan hard or not bother... we've come a long way since then. Last edited by mux; Oct 03, 05 at 10:48 AM.
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yup/ lots of the classics are produced this way. I was listening to Ray Charles the other day and his music is mixed w/ the hard pan technique.
It does sound a little funny, and i suppose not up to the standard of production were used to these days. But if your gonna be listening to the classics, you gotta take the good with the not half bad. All the classic tunes sound great to me, despite their aged sound. Nothing to complain about thats for sure. Just appreciate it for what it is dude!
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I find studio headphones aren't as kind for imaging as headphones made specifically for just listening. In my experience the studio cans tend to give you hard obvious distinctions between channels, where as something like a pair of Grados would give you more of a high end home system sound, which is what the records are mastered for.
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Oct 04, 05
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Oct 04, 05
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Fully! Although by the 70s, transistors were prevalent and tubes were thought to be a thing of the past. I think alot the sweet warmth of 70s rock recordings can be attributed to really big tape machines and high quality, fully analog signal paths.
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Oct 05, 05
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Almost all headphones should give you 100% seperation between stereo tracks, and if they panned hard left, you're only going to hear it on one side of your head, regardless.
Unless you have a device that can adjust the stereo seperation built into the headphones, or in your signal path somewhere. I personally have not seen any headphone, studio or otherwise, that have stereo field adjustment aside from a mono switch on some DJ models. You might get a little more perceived space from an accurate and transparent set of headphones, but their job is not to condition the signal, it's to reproduce it with the highest definition possible. High end home system sound that the records are mastered for? What does that have to do with shit coming out the right or left side? Like it's going to come out a little more to the centre if you use rad headphones? No conventional speaker system is going to get close to the amount of channel isolation that any decent pair of headphones has.
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Oct 05, 05
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LOL ...."holllllee leeeee shiiiit" - ala jason lee.
i think this is the greatest thread i have ever read on fnk. fist off i am an obsessive audio-engineer-nut and equally obsessive beatles fan!. my fnk screen name ive held for so long?...my all time favirot beatles album. well i think that some of the early engineering marvles that geoff emerick and geroge martin created are some of the most advanced raw engineering tequniques we will ever know. these guys had nothing but 4 tracks availible ginven to them with out any of the compression or advanced reverbs that we have today. every facet of their recordings were a direct result of the limitaions they found in their gear and their need to exceed them. ....their generation was also the first to hear the "stereo spectrum" reproduced. of coures they would empahisize it. to enhance and elevate the listeners response to this new audio experience. i would of panned the same back in those days!...to really fuck people up! imagine going from mono to the hard panning fades found on srgt. peppers or rubber soul. and dont evan get started on pink floyd or any of hendrixes albums. the panning on that shit make me want to barf some times!:)
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