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Mar 03, 02
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which genre takes most skill to spin?
I'm wondering about that right now....
i'll list from easiest to hardest in my opinion 1. hard house/nu nurg 2. trance 3. drumnbass 4. breaks 5. techno/house hardhouse and nu nrg i'll say is the easiest cuz the banging beats make it so damn easy to beatmatch and there isnt much in it rather than mixing song after song. trance comes in 2nd but its harder than hard house and nu nrg since its more important to match the tones in trance. but its mostly just mixing song after song unless ur a damn fuckin good trance dj and know exactly which tracks to overlap. drumnbass comes in 3rd. i'd say its one of the easiet genres to beatmatch, but when it comes to pulling off crazy mixes, the possibilities with drumnbass are endless. u can throw in tracks here and there and make a set sound like a fucked up jungle frenzy and still sound good. breaks comes in 4th.. its hard to beatmatch it at times and like jungle u can throw in tracks all over the place and make it sound really unpredictable. except most of the djs here in vancouver seem to just play a song and play the next... yawn... boring.. house and techno are tied at the top. the things u can do with these genres are just incredible. if yur just mixing track after track with these genres, i'll say it requires no skill whatsoever but if u do some of the crazy tricks with samplers and fx pads and all the crazyass fuckin shit some techno/house djs out there pull, i'd say u'd be up there as one of the most talented and creative djs in the world. with these genres, u can throw in tracks everywhere, u can scratch over it, u can mess around with the vocals or the beats with a sampler, u can fool with the eqs like fuckin crazy to make the song sound completly different... these genres u can make new music on the decks........ i'm just bored so i decided to say what i was thinking so yeah what u guys think? 
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Mar 03, 02
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I find D&B harder to mix then trance. I can beatmatch D&B in less then a minute now and i have less then 10 hours experience spinning it, where as i have been spinning trance for 2 years and am just now am making mixes worthy of a demo. Breaks are really easy to
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Mar 03, 02
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ohn ya just for you silly bastards out there, just because i can beatmatch a genre dosnt mean i can make a clean mix. Mixing all depends on your knowladge of that music, i dont know shit about D&B so i cant mix it, where as i have been listing to trance for like 4 years. Each genre have there own difficult areas so i think its hard to say whice one is the hardest.
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Mar 03, 02
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i'm with both of you here. Mixing isn't just beatmatching. Timing, sampling, and scratching are all a major factors in a good mix.
Now, I'm down with almost everthing that k-p said. hard house/nu nrg would be the easiest by far, there are almost all cookie cut and match up the same. Not dissing it as i used to love my dj morgan and old skool sunny d, and a sniggit of kultcha. (=Paul) I'd have to switch dnb and trance around tho. Dnb in my opinion is the 2nd easiest to match, and mixing anything takes talent, but i find most djs pick an exact style and stick so cleanly to it. I'd put trance here, because it's would be harder to layer such long tunes for good succession, with dnb the mixes are much faster. Breaks, 4th hardest, thats why i'm still shitty. Techno/House, most easiest to beatmatch, but hardest to mix with true skill and percision. These two are all about layering to the max. But as with everything, there is always other factors to consider. anyways that my two cents. not always of sound mind.
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Mar 03, 02
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ya the length of the mix is a pretty big factor. My bro has been spinning for D&B and his mixes are really quick.....like "slap the fader over" quick. Wiht the deeper trance i spin now I have to hold a mix for a minimum of a minute....with mixes that long your beatmatching has to be perfect because although making corrections is pretty easy it can often ruine the flow of the mix
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Mar 03, 02
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with drumnbass yeah its pretty damn easy to beatmatch, since the snares are more spread apart, unlike trance where the beats are more compact, therefore making it more difficult for a more exact beatmatch. but hey u cant deny the fact that with trance there PLENTY of time to beatmatch the tracks... if i really concentrated i could beatmatch trance in about 10 seconds, but that would be a rough beatmatch.... then another 20-30 seconds on fine tuning it. but u can pull off so many things with jungle... i can beatmatch it fine in 5-10 seconds so i can do other things for mixing rather than sweating myself worrying about some dumb beatmatch. u can scratch, u can layer, u can do some crazy cuts, and u can pull off loooong mixes if u want, u can sample... many things u can do which u cant do effectively with trance (but if u can figure out a way that acutally sounds good then yur one damn fuckin good dj). i'd have to disagree that dnb mixes are always faster. i'm sure anyone can pull off a fast mix with trance if they wanted to. i know i do sometimes when i spin trance. when i play drumnbass i try to make every mix different, sometimes iLL do a quick mix sometimes i'll overlap 2 tracks for 3 minutes... doesnt matter
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Mar 03, 02
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after spinning uplifting trance for 2 years i find myself bored as hell and i dont use any mixer to its full capabilities, im always waiting for a break so i can mix it in.
I have found with progressive trance I can use the mixer more.
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Mar 03, 02
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i'm sure u can do it with trance but i dunno
it usually sounds pretty awful unless u know yur tracks unbeleiveable well to the point where u know the exact key, and which tracks have matching keys when they are beatmatched. i'd say most trance djs (including myself) like to play the track then mix into another once the track is over. it just sounds one hell of a lot better. in my opinion, trance is probably the most complex of all electronic genres to produce. trance tracks just sound better on their own. well i'm an anthem trance dj so thats me HAHAHAHAHA
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Mar 03, 02
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Ya I Tweak my mixer to the freaking max when I mix. im all over that it like stink on shit. Even when im not mixing, I use the EQ's so much on the track thats playing out.....then add the fact that my mixer has effects, im so busy behind the decks.
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Mar 04, 02
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Mar 05, 02
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i would have to say idm and any form of hardcore.
irregular beat patterns, timing, and a extremely well trained ear to 180+bpm. yeegads, i'm [literally]on the floor. stina
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Mar 05, 02
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I couldn't rate one type of music over another cuz there are sooo many different way to mix every kind of music. I use to think house was easy as hell, but to spin house and make it sound the way Flave makes it sound, thats crazy hard. When yah mix trance its soo much more than matching the beat so its hard to. I guess any music to make it sound really good is hard to mix.
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Mar 05, 02
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Vesperstina thnx i wuz waiting for that...
I mean I would have to say all these genres are the same shit some are easier then others but i mean i bet any kid thats been spinning for a little bit can match any of them... Although i mite be contradicting myself. I spin Nu skool breaks and I mean taking a Tipper or cold fusion Mafia track and mixing them in is fuckiin lot harder then mixing in tony faline and Sharaz. So many of those tracks start with the most rugged bassline anywho I think you have to go deeperr then jus genres and more into sub genres like some of you have comparing progressive to uplifting. Nu skool to florida or electro. I also think Hardcore as a genre not a subgenre is most likely the hardest not matter what it is Rotterdam or Happy hardcore. My two cents.
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