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Apr 12, 06
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DVDJ's
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Apr 12, 06
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I looked into them, but they're just not so much my bag.
The idea (realtime creative control over video) is awesome, but the interface (pretend video is audio and play it like records) is kind of limited... I mean, unless you add a second (and third?) DVDJ and a video mixer, you have about as much control over the video as a DJ with one turntable and no mixer does on the audio... and aren't the DVDJ's wicked expensive still? then again, I infinitely prefer synthesizers to turntables. :)
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example: see mike relm.
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Apr 13, 06
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Personaly its my dream come true. I love the whole idea of visuals and music. Im a mad music video fan and cant wait to get started... but I need to figure out way more info and how to start it all up. The big problem seems to be that there so new on the market and industry its hard to find anyone who knows anything about them.
They are expensive and the equimpent and time to do it is even more work. Oh well DJ isnt enough for me... I cant wait to try this out. Last edited by Ree Fresh; Apr 13, 06 at 01:25 AM.
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Apr 13, 06
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I am Johnny Deuce from the DVDJs. Any questions???
This is Johnny Deuce from Chicago. I am partners with VJ Matty. Together we do a video mixing show. Many people doubt video because of its capabilities. We have proven all weaknesses of VJing wrong.
We use: For sound- 2 Pioneer DVJ X1's (DVD turntables) 2 Pioneer 1000 MKII's (cd turntables) 1 Pioneer DJM 600 (audio mixer) 1 Pioneer DJM 909 (audio mixer) For Video- 2 Edirol V4's (Video Mixer and Processor) 1 Motion Dive Tokyo on an Apple G4 Powerbook (laptop video mixing program for visuals, advertisements, or any other type of media jpeg, avi, mpeg, mov, flash, etc) 1 Roland SP606 (Vlink video midi controller for video performance) 5 42" Philips Plasma HD Flat Panel Televisions (TVs for display) We create our own video, we purchase video from other artists, we play the music video rather than just the song, we have live cameras throghout the venue, we have a drummer who drums with our show live, we have dancers, we have MCs. We have a little of it all based around some of the best DJs in the world. We have some other gear we use for random shows. We'd like to come to Vancouver to play. Anyone with questions can email me at [email protected] Here's our web link: www.dvdjs.com - this site is still in its beginning stages. We have a flash site being built. Regards, Johnny Deuce
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I think its pretty cool cuz it does add another dimention to the whole set. its pretty cool. i think the DVJ's accept two disc's at once, the DVD and CD, and sends out two signals to a mixer, which then has two different crossfaders, one for video, one for audio. And the video one has many options like the type of dissolve or transition you want to put on it for mixing it. I played with them at L&M pretty nifty.
But cost wize, along with getting the DVJ's there are costs for the Projector units, The Projection sheet, the hoist. Still pretty cool, but im just wondering what type of video would someone mix into say a dnb set. or is it all just visuals. when i played with them i was mixing into different music videos.
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Apr 13, 06
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they're prohibitively expensive - like $5k. they can be used to great effect, ie Mike Relm or Z-Trip... but imo, unless you've got skills like those guys & are pushing the limits of the technology, it's just an unneccessary gimmick. I guess if you're a video artist as well as a DJ and want to incorporate your own visuals it would be helpful, but if that's what you're using it for do you really need to pay that much for the turntable-style interface? you could get a really kick-ass laptop for less money.....
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Apr 13, 06
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I guess its a matter of opinion. We use the DVJ X1's for the DJ aspect of the turntables. Notice we also use Pioneer 1000's MKIIs. We figured it was worth the money to differentiate ourselves. My partner spins the music on the turntables while I mix the video. For something like DNB I would make visuals and choose visuals from the computer. I can MIDI comtrol these visuals to correspond to the music through the SP606 sampling workstation and Motion Dive Tokyo.
Many have doubted video until this point because there wasn't enough hardware. Now there is enough hardware and content is growing everyday. VJ Matty (my partner) has been spinning for years and I trust him moreso that ZTrip and many of the others. With such an obscure style, its hard to mix the video well. We have also teamed with many DJs from the Chicago land area including DJ-SPIN (B96 Radio FM 96.3 Chicago) and many other talents from Pioneer pros to just basic, no-so-popular DJs. No we were not at the show you referred to Kraig. Wish we were. Know anyone interested in bringing in a video show in Vancouver? Yea you can't effectively DJ and VJ at the same time. That is why my partner and I work together. I do the video, he does the audio. JD
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Apr 13, 06
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yea, i figured the whole point of DV-Js is to allow scratch-control of your visuals or allow for scratching both visuals and audio simultaneously. People like Z-Trip and especialy Mike Relm are incorporating full-on scratch routines of videos, movie clips, etc.
If all you're doing is mixing visuals while someone else plays on turntables, I'd probably go the laptop route and save $7000, but that's just me...
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guess you haven't been to any of Z Trip or Mike Relm's recent shows, huh?
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I have seen his shows. We use the DVJs, two laptops (outputting 2 channels of video each), and live cameras. We also have an auxilary stack of DVD players. Thats, more than 14 video feeds. Just turn tables, just a laptop, just anything, is not enough. That's like a DJ playing on one turntable... Also, ZTrips music style is way different than ours.
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Apr 13, 06
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Check your pm's. I beleive your the two guys who did the demonstration at the WMC this year. THANK YOU! So jelouse of your set up... once the cars paid off im sure to catch up ;) PS: Im wondering if thers any kind of forum best to meet any other DVDJ artist such as yoru selfs?
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Yes I was, but he had someone else doing it for him. I did however catch Sanders set at Ultra where he was doing it all on his own. It was pretty cool and deffinently a step above of what most other DJ's are doing. However once I took a look at what these guys where doing they made the stuff Sander was doing pretty simple. However Matty and Johnny do it with two ppl. There set up is pretty "Krafty" (pun intended for kraig) and they were able to do so much more complex stuff by having one person in charge of mixing the visuals and one incharge of mixing the music. Keep in mind these guys were using hip hop videos and sample effex from their labtop. But what I do adore is how they have givin mixing visuals just as much of an art as mixing music. Or am I going off the deep end? Last edited by Ree Fresh; Apr 13, 06 at 11:06 PM.
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May 18, 06
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Nope dont think you're off the deep end. That's exactly how we're thinking of it. We've actually just begun the install of the first major video club in Chicago where we will eventually call home so its definately catching on...
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