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Sep 02, 02
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All Promoters Meeting (Electronica)
Sir_K Said:
All Promoters Meeting (Electronica) it's time. Whaddya think. All Club / Rave / Afterhours / Outdoor promoters meeting somewhere where we can talk about our scene and how we can work together to make it better. Sound like an idea? Perhaps October 15, 2002? Heres what I'm thinking: > Some sort of a room for a meeting, with a easel or whiteboard so those who would like can present ideas to the group > A roundtable-type meeting where everybody can express their ideas > Up to the entire promotional crew can come from each group ? Sound like an idea anyone? -------------------- DJ Sir K Team Director / Wickedhouseparty dot ORG email: [email protected] ICQ #83383495 Cdn_Brdr said: I'm not sure whether it would work or not but its one hell of an idea. There's a lot of bad blood and evil competition style attitudes that run rampant among some of the promoters out here. If you can put it together and make it work though I bet you guys could come up with some good stuff. GOOD LUCK! Sir_K said: There was a thread on CV that lasted for like a month about such a thing. It's time. Time for the scene. Time for the fans. Time for the promoters. Time for everybody to make our scene a better place. -------------------- DJ Sir K Team Director / Wickedhouseparty dot ORG email: [email protected] ICQ #83383495 werdyboy said: dear lord. at least you're not trying to hold it at a wickedhouseparty like last time you thought of this. inkster said: wow. a place for promoters, ravers, clubbers, etc to all come together and discuss the things that they want to be addressed. such a concept!!@# i must admit, though, i liked this idea better when it was called "message boards". what would this achieve that discussion on clubvibes/ed/fk wouldn't? and don't you think that some of the promoters who are doing the most damage to things would not want to attend as they'd get called on their shots? just curious and such... although, i think the idea is a noble one, i can't see it working. (oh, and look! october 15th is on a tuesday. how convenient.) Sir_K said: Dale. You are not a promoter, therefore your opinions are useless in this thread. -------------------- DJ Sir K Team Director / Wickedhouseparty dot ORG email: [email protected] ICQ #83383495 
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Sep 02, 02
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I said:
aw shit. my Rave Status Card says i don't have my Class P license. that means i won't be able to question the effectiveness of the Autumn 2002 Vancouver Club/Rave Summit, since i obviously have no grounds to base my opinions on! i also won't be able to attend. i'm just a lowly Journeyman Rave-Goer (3rd class: Scene-Whore) with not enough Old School Points to allow me to voice my concerns on the state of the current scene, nor to be able to influence the 2003 Directives and it's Rave-to-Club conversion plans. it would take me 4 more years, at the present rate, to gain enough RaveExperienceHours in order to be able to be present at this meeting. however, i still would not be able to talk unless i actually had my Class P license. i suppose it would be possible for me to fake the funk by getting hoodies made with a fake logo and website url on it, and then attempt to bluff my way through the door that way. this would be a very powerful tactic, since the hoodie/logo combo is highly respected in the Vancouver Club/Rave Collective and is as important to the promoter to his authoritity as the labcoat is to the doctor. obviously, anyone wearing this stylish hoodie/logo combination is of high amounts of influence and power, and surely not one to mess with nor underestimate. however, i am a coward, and am afraid of all confrontation at all in real life, so it is unlikely that i would try to attempt a bluff since it could end up in someone doubting my validity. the only other way to attend the Summit, of course, would be for me to get my Class P license. although, i am not sure that i would be willing to donate 4-6 hours a day of my life to promoting a clubnight. as it stands now, i barely have enough titme to listen to three track mixtrapes, let alone ones that have four in them. my time is so extremely limited that there is no way that i could even flood local message boards with my promotional propoganda. i'd only be able to post one or two things a week, and we all know how successful that's made the Tactical and Cheeky. who/what you ask? exactly. also, i don't think i could handle the challenge that would come with taking a pub that previously played piped in music and converting it to one that played electronic music. i mean, this ain't no walk in the park. where would the dj go??? i'd have to move chairs and stuff. and let's not even get into the heavy lifting involved (techs are fucking behemoths). this seems like all too much work for me. i guess i'm not up to snuff. i'll never get my Class P license and work with the big boys. no, i'm just a lowly Rave-Goer (Class 3: Scene-Whore) who has no right at all to say anything... not that i would anyways, since i'm a coward who would never tell someone to their face that they're hurting The Scene. *sigh* ][nkster
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Sep 02, 02
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hahahahahahahahahahahahhaha
I love you inkster :hehe:
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Sep 02, 02
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then instead of answering the question, you had the audacity to say that since i wasn't a "promoter" that i could have no say. what bullshit. that pissed me off. especially since it's questionable if you're even a "promoter" in the first place. (sticking flyers up your ass does not a promoter make.) hence my heavily sarcastic and "uesless" reply. btw, yet again you fuck up, then blame others. notice a pattern? ][nkster
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Sep 02, 02
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hahahahahahahahahahahahaha :smoke1:
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Sep 03, 02
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Yeah sorry to say it but you're not the person that could organize this and it won't happen on a message board.... If any does make this sort of thing happen it will be a secretive sort of thing and only certain people will be included. No offence but you have to be biiger than the rest to do thjis sort of thing... No one would listen to me if I tried to something like this.
No offence...
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Sep 03, 02
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The only time I can remember this happening was back in 2000 during the whole Riverside Banquet Hall losing their license and going out of business if it continued to host all-night-dance-events plus the fate of the rave scene in Vancouver/Richmond during the whole City Hall Bylaws issue.
But to be seriously honest, meetings like this aren't organized on message boards, especially by a shady invidual like Kris Taylor. If you got positive responses from othe promoters, they were just trying to be 'nice'. What ever fantasy world you think your in, it's time to wake up and realize that you AREN'T the elected spokesperson for the scene; and neither am I.
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Sep 04, 02
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especially when one considers that i've been involved with the production of many parties in various roles and could probably throw one at a moment's notice, should i be in town and the oppurtunity arise. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to throw a rave. a degree in engineering is also not needed in throwing one's very own own Wicked House Party (tm). i did this once last year and it WENT OFF!@# this, of course, is nothing to brag about. it was just a silly little house party. but when compared to someone who does brag about such things, it doesn't hurt to say "hey, i did that too!". on top of that, how is it that since kris has thrown more nights than me that he should somehow be afforded more credibility than anyone who hasn't? especially since nearly all of his numerous nights have either failed, or are in the process of failing, because of the same stupid mistakes? why should he get "hot shit" status when some pud like me (or anyone else with a clue) comes along and tells him where he's fucking up? and what to do to fix it? who is the more knowledgeable in this situation? the person who keeps fucking up? or the person who knows what to do in order to succeed, but fails to sustain the interest to put effort into it? i mean, how many of you all predicted that bumpin' would have failed because of studebaker's rocker bar rep and distance from downtown? most of you, i'd bet. and of those that predicted that, i'd say only that one or two had their own clubnights. so if someone does not have their own clubnight/rave then they are not qualified to say anything? i call bullshit. but then again, i might be misinterpreting you, myles. i call on you to elaborate your view. or else, i call on you to STFU.
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Sep 04, 02
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(^) I think that yoy have raised some good points. Not that we disagree (I don't think we actually do) but just to be clear I will state that there is a difference between thinking you know how to throw a party and actually doing it. It is one thing to see it happrn and it's completely different to actually do it.
As far as your point of being able to be a critic... well hey freedom of speach. Why try and stop others from saying what they have to say (as much as all of us would on occasion like to).
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Sep 04, 02
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i might not know exactly what to do... but i know many of the things not to do. :)
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Sep 06, 02
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snyx: that's funny cause I thought inkster has done a rave or two,,, I guess he does not feel the need to point that out And/or the number of events he's helped out.
Oh yea, and at lest at his house party (E-vict, I think it was called) he had 1600w of sound... and not the 400w most being in mono, and the other being home audio, that kris had for his first 3 parties.
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Sep 08, 02
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I once went to a houseparty and then the whole house went up in flames
burnt to the ground The poor girls parents probably killed her when they got back from vacation AGROout
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