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  #101 (permalink)  
Old Aug 20, 04
Steve II Da O
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Originally Posted by DetN8R
Fukkin rights, its not cancelled. Tommy is just getting worried, is all. Seriously, there is still over a week to go until the party. And so what if he comes up at a little loss? Seriously, is a 60 or 70 dollar loss really that big a deal in the long run when you still managed to put on a primo party at little cost to the average party kid?

Do a cost benefit analysis. You stand to lose MORE money in cancelling, than if you actually go throught with it. My partner wanted to cancel Outbound Flight the day before the party, AFTER we printed flyers, AFTER we printed posters, AFTER we sold 100+ tickets, and AFTER a non-refundable deposit on a venue, AFTER we bought concession goods, AFTER we paid our main djs, all because we lost a shitty ass venue. We would've lost thousands! What'd I do? Me and my buddy rolled around Saturday afternoon and found another venue 7 hours before the party was supposed to happen. With the help of good friends and hardwork, we setup in the nick of time and delivered a not too shabby party. Granted we didn't sell out or anything, but we sure as hell did our best.

No way would I cancel a party. Think of how many tickets you would have to refund. Think of how many people would get mad at you. Also what little credibility you had would be gone. So I say again, who cares about the money? You have enough to rent the venue? Good! Then your set. Don't have enough money for headliners? So what? Talk em down. Look at Agrodave, took a loss on two Grooves in a row. Busted. Busted. Did he bitch and complain and whine about it? No. So seriously, who cares about the money, especially when its such a small amount.

Look at Apex, almost every company there putting on a stage lost cash, I lost cash, my partners lost A LOT more, but did they care or complain? No. Cuz its about the party kids. Its about making an impression and showing them a good time once in a while. About making them feel valued, because without them this scene would be even worse off than it is right now. Excuse the tirade, but some people need to really weigh the possibilities here and make sure they understand the consequences of their actions.

Just in case my position isn't clear enough, here it is: Don't cancel! Cuz then all your efforts and the time you've put into this party WILL go down the gutter.
So Fuckin True man So fuckin True
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  #102 (permalink)  
Old Aug 20, 04
I heart speed garage!
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
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as i said before, tommy u need to listen to this guy, he knows what hes talkin bout, just take a chance
Quote:
Originally Posted by DetN8R
Fukkin rights, its not cancelled. Tommy is just getting worried, is all. Seriously, there is still over a week to go until the party. And so what if he comes up at a little loss? Seriously, is a 60 or 70 dollar loss really that big a deal in the long run when you still managed to put on a primo party at little cost to the average party kid?

Do a cost benefit analysis. You stand to lose MORE money in cancelling, than if you actually go throught with it. My partner wanted to cancel Outbound Flight the day before the party, AFTER we printed flyers, AFTER we printed posters, AFTER we sold 100+ tickets, and AFTER a non-refundable deposit on a venue, AFTER we bought concession goods, AFTER we paid our main djs, all because we lost a shitty ass venue. We would've lost thousands! What'd I do? Me and my buddy rolled around Saturday afternoon and found another venue 7 hours before the party was supposed to happen. With the help of good friends and hardwork, we setup in the nick of time and delivered a not too shabby party. Granted we didn't sell out or anything, but we sure as hell did our best.

No way would I cancel a party. Think of how many tickets you would have to refund. Think of how many people would get mad at you. Also what little credibility you had would be gone. So I say again, who cares about the money? You have enough to rent the venue? Good! Then your set. Don't have enough money for headliners? So what? Talk em down. Look at Agrodave, took a loss on two Grooves in a row. Busted. Busted. Did he bitch and complain and whine about it? No. So seriously, who cares about the money, especially when its such a small amount.

Look at Apex, almost every company there putting on a stage lost cash, I lost cash, my partners lost A LOT more, but did they care or complain? No. Cuz its about the party kids. Its about making an impression and showing them a good time once in a while. About making them feel valued, because without them this scene would be even worse off than it is right now. Excuse the tirade, but some people need to really weigh the possibilities here and make sure they understand the consequences of their actions.

Just in case my position isn't clear enough, here it is: Don't cancel! Cuz then all your efforts and the time you've put into this party WILL go down the gutter.
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  #103 (permalink)  
Old Aug 20, 04
Steve II Da O
 
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Take a chance and by theway people he never said no alchy he jus said he wont be serving it ;)
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  #104 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
no name productions OWNER
 
Join Date: May 2001
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this beter be happening, cause if not i will be pissed... had to turn down another gig for this one, so it beter be happening, plus i will want to party this weekend cause i have the most brutal week at work to look forward to right now and this would be a GREAT stress releiver!
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Old Aug 21, 04
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what u all dont know is I already tought of those things befor i said I had to cancel and I had a long and painful discussion about this with my partner and yes we are FORCED to cancel unless if find another venue...
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  #106 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
no name productions OWNER
 
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then go find another venue!!! :)
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  #107 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
EvolveEventManagement
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by tommy_zex
what u all dont know is I already tought of those things befor i said I had to cancel and I had a long and painful discussion about this with my partner and yes we are FORCED to cancel unless if find another venue...
Find another venue Tommy as soon as you can ...

This party IS GOING TO HAPPEN!
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  #108 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
f.k.a. DetN8R
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Allya is on a distinguished road
What he said. Do what we did, drive around, make some calls, make some shit up about ur best friends bday party he's leaving the country, he goes to the same church as you, it'd be between 30 and 50 of your closest non-alcoholic non-smoking friends. Get it done.
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  #109 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
EvolveEventManagement
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by DetN8R
What he said. Do what we did, drive around, make some calls, make some shit up about ur best friends bday party he's leaving the country, he goes to the same church as you, it'd be between 30 and 50 of your closest non-alcoholic non-smoking friends. Get it done.
Exactly ...

You wont necessarily have everyone hate you if you cancel this party :

But Tommy once you announce that an event is going to happen you should try as best as you can to follow through with it no matter what.

And saying that this might be potentially cancelled isnt going to pick up my ticket sales for your party either!
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  #110 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
Go Canucks Go!!
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by {dC!}
No Erik at the party ...

Fine,

Be that way!
No KenJi, since I didn't end up making it to Solace last year I am planning on making it out this year, if I don't work and aren't dead by that night
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  #111 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
EvolveEventManagement
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Originally Posted by KenJi
No KenJi, since I didn't end up making it to Solace last year I am planning on making it out this year, if I don't work and aren't dead by that night
Itz all good Kenji ...

As long as you have good times wherever you end up going.
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  #112 (permalink)  
Old Aug 21, 04
f.k.a. DetN8R
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Allya is on a distinguished road
Oh and for god's sake Tommy, change ur sig. Geez, you give up too easy!
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  #113 (permalink)  
Old Aug 22, 04
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tommy: if you're throwing parties JUST to make money, its not gonna happen.

i''m sure you've seen many wannabe promotors come and go within a party or 2 because all they cared about was money and not throwing a party to have fun/let others have fun.

if you're gonna do a party, then do one. dont just rely on presales to pay for things, you have to put money into your party to make it happen. in the end, if you do end up making money then good for you, if you lose a bit, at least you'll gain some experience in the area and perhaps throw a better party for next time.
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  #114 (permalink)  
Old Aug 23, 04
i wish...
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
jomama is on a distinguished road
i've been saying this all along, just go through with it.I mean if it's possible. if i had a place to let you have this party than you could party there. buttttttttt that's not the case
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  #115 (permalink)  
Old Aug 25, 04
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Join Date: Jun 2004
tommy_zex has a little shameless behaviour in the past
its not the money..

if it was a money issue i would of just got free DJ's...and made it outside

this party just wasnt ment to be... alot of shit came up and I try to keep it

on...

but now I em foreced to cancel do to issues with the venue it self...

yes i know my credabilty has gone to shit ...and ALOT of people are pissed

I already lost money on this...so w/e... I hope we all can put

this to past...and let me have another try... at a fully legal event.. licince

security whole deal... i dont expect support since this mess... but it will

happen

-Tommy Zex
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  #116 (permalink)  
Old Aug 25, 04
Steve II Da O
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
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this blows that it got cancelled
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  #117 (permalink)  
Old Aug 25, 04
sNyx.com
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_zex
its not the money..

if it was a money issue i would of just got free DJ's...and made it outside

this party just wasnt ment to be... alot of shit came up and I try to keep it

on...

but now I em foreced to cancel do to issues with the venue it self...

yes i know my credabilty has gone to shit ...and ALOT of people are pissed

I already lost money on this...so w/e... I hope we all can put

this to past...and let me have another try... at a fully legal event.. licince

security whole deal... i dont expect support since this mess... but it will

happen

-Tommy Zex
dude you could have thrown a siick ass party, one for the books.
you just fucked it up by calling it a Rave. there I said it. NEXT!?!
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  #118 (permalink)  
Old Aug 25, 04
Steve II Da O
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
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^^So true
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  #119 (permalink)  
Old Aug 25, 04
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tommy_zex has a little shameless behaviour in the past
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Originally Posted by sNyx™
dude you could have thrown a siick ass party, one for the books.
you just fucked it up by calling it a Rave. there I said it. NEXT!?!
i know i made alot of rookie mistakes ... really sucks because I put all of work into this...:306:
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