FS or Serato

ppcock · #1 (**permalink**) Dec 05, 06

Im a dj that barely plays out, but i want to expand my music collection. I figure that if i do play out while using either program, i can just burn them cd's
play it like that.

Until then, FS and Serato - which one should i get? i got firewire ports on my mobo, im not too sure how good they are (if its like the HD audio card, they'll be crap)

if i get fs - i can get it next payday, if i for S probably in the new year. I understand there's no rush but im sick and tired of spinning the same old stuff everytime i hop on the decks and i dont really want to buy records anymore.

nabs · #2 (**permalink**) Dec 05, 06

Neither, save money, get an M-Audio Torq and Connectiv, Half the price. Way more Features.

Digital Over · #3 (**permalink**) Dec 05, 06

^ Tried it...very cool. I also REALLY REALLY like the new Abelton Live, but not worth it unless you're doing a full blown live PA set.

I'm saving up for the Omega 8000, using my Yamaha PSR MIDI controller as a secondary tool, with maybe an NPC or something...the omega looks sick tho, both for studio purposes, and for Live PA.

stimulant j · #4 (**permalink**) Dec 23, 06

SeratO

mekim · #5 (**permalink**) Dec 23, 06

go with serato for sure. m-audio if you're willing to basically be a beta tester.

inside · #6 (**permalink**) Dec 23, 06

you guys got it all wrong. iDJ Mixing Console for iPod is what all the real dj's use.

http://www.numark.com/index.html?htt...overview&n=132

-evil-duerr- · #7 (**permalink**) Dec 23, 06

^ha haa

neoh · #8 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

try TORQ

mux · #9 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

go ableton. trust me.

talk to me on msn about it.

Toxxin Ephekt · #10 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

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Originally Posted by inside

you guys got it all wrong. iDJ Mixing Console for iPod is what all the real dj's use.

http://www.numark.com/index.html?htt...overview&n=132

Hahahaha!!

Seconed.

inside · #11 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

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Originally Posted by mux

go ableton. trust me.

talk to me on msn about it.

done, if your a superstar dj/producer getting loops from all the big cats around the world.

Were all not sasha, or even a mux for that matter.

mux · #12 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

*shrug*. loops from producers? why not just use it as an mp3/wave player, rip your records to .wav (or buy mp3's online) and be a DJ, just like before, but with near-limitless possibilities of what you can make your records sound like?

plus ppcock is into techno. techno and ableton go together almost as well as mashup and ableton - four turntables? six? twenty? loop chunks of techno tracks as lockgrooves? a (virtual) TR-909 for good measure? give'r.

seriously, it takes like a weekend to learn it, and it opens up possibilities with your record collection like nothing else.

ppcock · #13 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

i have ableton 6 but i've tried to learn it. The interface is a bit confusing to me.

I'll deffinitely check out this tr-909 emulator.

inside · #14 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

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Originally Posted by mux

*shrug*. loops from producers? why not just use it as an mp3/wave player, rip your records to .wav (or buy mp3's online) and be a DJ, just like before, but with near-limitless possibilities of what you can make your records sound like?

plus ppcock is into techno. techno and ableton go together almost as well as mashup and ableton - four turntables? six? twenty? loop chunks of techno tracks as lockgrooves? a (virtual) TR-909 for good measure? give'r.

seriously, it takes like a weekend to learn it, and it opens up possibilities with your record collection like nothing else.

Sasha has producers send him the loops from their tracks that they have made so he can remix and mash them up live using ableton. I'm suprised that this has not become the norm among the top djs creating the ultimate "dub plate" culture. Would sure keep alot of people out of the boys club if they did more of this.

If your into the more minimal techno rips from wax and mp3s are dope, but if you want to mix anything more then dj tools I think ableton can be a bit boring if your playing some tracks with more layers and structure to them. Beatmatching is fun!

inside · #15 (**permalink**) Dec 24, 06

PHOSCYON and Drumazon look wicked. I haven't got into them cause I'm sticking with the sampler and Audiorealism for me beats and tb303. I wonder how cpu hungry PHOSCYON is.

mux · #16 (**permalink**) Dec 26, 06

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Originally Posted by inside

Sasha has producers send him the loops from their tracks that they have made so he can remix and mash them up live using ableton. I'm suprised that this has not become the norm among the top djs creating the ultimate "dub plate" culture. Would sure keep alot of people out of the boys club if they did more of this.

I'm surprised too, but I think you're missing the best part - it's not about keeping people out of the boys club, it's about a new boys club renaissance, where crews get wider spread and more and more focused and powerful. Anyone can make records now! Imagine a Planet Of The Drums where the DJs are 'spinning' tracks and grooves made earlier that day, and remixing each other on the weekdays... all using the same tools.

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If your into the more minimal techno rips from wax and mp3s are dope, but if you want to mix anything more then dj tools I think ableton can be a bit boring if your playing some tracks with more layers and structure to them. Beatmatching is fun!

I can't argue with that, that's an opinion and it's valid.

Personally I think beatmatching is an important part of what it is to be a vinyl DJ, but it's holding the whole thing back.

Take MIDI for example: when it was invented, an entire generation of keyboard players scoffed, called it cheating, and said "Why should I let a computer play my music?". The thing is, it never was about letting computers play the music, it was about letting synths communicate, using computers to push the music forward - there wasn't a need to play that synthline by hand while playing the leads with your other hand and the bassline with your feet. Suddenly you were free to focus on the *music* instead of just the playing, and most synth players couldn't see it - the ones that did went on to create the stuff we now know as electronic music, the ones that didn't eventually fell to the side.

I see Live and stuff like it as the next big step forward - the things that make a DJ great are track selection and progression, and what he does to make those tracks his own... if beatmatching isn't in the equation, how much further can the artform be pushed forward if DJs are left to focus solely on the parts that *matter*? I think that's really exciting stuff.

Again, it's an opinion thing, yours is no less valid than mine. :)

inside · #17 (**permalink**) Dec 26, 06

Werd.

I do find spinning tools, tons of fun. When I get back into it, who knows.

Decks, plus live would be mental regaurdless of what you spin. The next ingredient would be skill, a life long journey I guess.