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Old Dec 29, 06
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Cubase Distoring Easily?

Does anybody notice.... (maybe it's just our version) but me and my friend both find sounds in cubase distort really easily at levels that aren't even necessarily that high. I know all about EQing and shit now, that's not really what I'm talking about. For example I have a live sampled piano kit, and I'll tap it hard on my midi board.. but still not loud AT all and its blechhhhh mudding out with no other sounds present .. etc etc

I find I have to mess around with levels so much I just get sick of it.

What other programs should I try? All I want from cubase is my vsts .. so something that supports those?

well actually the more I produce the less I use synths, but I love my waves diamond and TBL bassline so those are a must.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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Is it a crack? If so that's probably your problem...
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Old Dec 29, 06
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Logic 5.5 Platinum is the last working version for the pc... BUT..its old, it doesnt support hyperthreading and also has many bugs, ram leaks, and is a sequencer that you have to think to get some going right.

Cubase... well i have no clue what you mean by mudding, can you record a sample? Im assuming its something to do with the program when it comes to eq'ing. I personally lover my master volume in the sequencer half way and then that way even if you were to red line on one audio track, the master wont redline... that coupled with my external mixer to control my monitors to make the speakers louder without touching my volume on the program... comes in handy.

Studio monitors are a must if you dont have them.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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Studio monitors are a must if you dont have them.
quoted for truth.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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Is it a crack? If so that's probably your problem...
yeah it is.... could very well be the problem.

ben: I have monitor headphones and some paradigm speakers that are damn true sound. that's not really relevant I don't think.

well sure I could lower the master volume half way but then it would sound hella quiet when you export it.

could somebody explain how to chop out the highs better? maybe that's part of my problem. i have waves there's like 60 things in there but I don't know how to use half the shit.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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very wierd. try to find a different instrument for a piano sound, cause it could be just the plug. I doubt it's the sequencer it's self.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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it's a live sampled piano that I set to each key with battery, not a synth.

meh I think I've figured out a solution, exporting my beats to a wave with like decently low and clean levels then boosting it with the normalizer in pro tools.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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So you're having an issue with the master output clipping even when your track doesnt sound loud?

Here's a naughty secret. Get yourself a limiter and put it on the master output. Waves L2 is a good one but there are also a lot of free ones out there.

This isn't the best solution however... Check out voxengo span (freeware spectrum analyzer). You can see where each of your synths sit in frequency domain. Using a parametric eq, you can notch away until the elements sit right.

The best solution in my opinion, is to pick samples that work well together (before any processing is performed) and be sure not to have too many synths/samples playing at once.
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Old Dec 29, 06
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it's a live sampled piano that I set to each key with battery, not a synth.

meh I think I've figured out a solution, exporting my beats to a wave with like decently low and clean levels then boosting it with the normalizer in pro tools.
I think it might be time to ditch cubase or find a more stable one.
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Old Dec 31, 06
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I personally lower my master volume in the sequencer half way and then that way even if you were to red line on one audio track, the master wont redline...
That's a pretty bad habit... essentially you are decreasing the resolution of your mix bus and mixing at a lower bit depth.
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Old Dec 31, 06
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shift is exactly right you have to go to your vst and fiddle until the output/various controls is high enough thats where the problem is and thats where it needs to be fixed... if possible.
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Old Dec 31, 06
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I find that mine sometimes distorts when there is a lot going on, such as when u have a load of midi channels all with effects on. I usually just mute a few of the channels (temporarily of course) and it goes away.
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That's a pretty bad habit... essentially you are decreasing the resolution of your mix bus and mixing at a lower bit depth.
in the end when the track is ready to be eq'd and set properly with the compressors, that whole process goes void...
its a good way to blast the speakers without hurting them and yourself...
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Old Jan 02, 07
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ahh I think i misinterpreted your problem. It sounds like you're overloading your processor with excessive effects and synths.

There's a blue meter on the left hand side of the transport bar. If it's pegged high, that means it can't keep up with all the realtime processing you're doing. This causes a nasty, distorted, stuttered sound

There are a few work arounds:

- Find processor-friendly alternative plugins
- bounce synth parts down to audio
- Increase VST input buffer size (also increases latency)
- Use the "Freeze" feature in cubase
- Use less effects
- Don't keep instruments loaded that you aren't using
- Get a faster computer
- Make sure cubase is the only application running

Even when effects are idle, they can still consume processing power (depends on how well the plugin was developed)

Last edited by Junglist; Jan 02, 07 at 11:33 AM.
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