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Old Oct 26, 07
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Serato 1.8 now in public beta

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Wouldn't try using this at any gigs yet but man is it cool. The best part for me so far is being able to set cue points and loops points w/o the SL1 connected, but I haven't even tried playing tunes with it yet.

Gotta get me a midi controller to test out those features too...

New Features:


MIDI Input
Scratch LIVE now supports MIDI input, so that you can control the software with a 3rd party MIDI device.

Off-line player
You can now play tracks without hardware connected. Set up crates, cue points, make loops etc from the comfort of your lounge chair.

Auto-looping
Create loops of preset length on the fly.

New Relative mode options
New needle dropping in Relative mode and needle drop to cue points options.

AAC support
AAC files are now supported in Scratch LIVE.

New TTM 57SL effects
HP Echo and HP Hold Echo (Bass cut versions of the existing effects), phaser, flanger and a bit crusher.

Relocate lost files
Move stuff around on your drive, without stuffing up your library.

Autobackup
Once a week your Scratch LIVE folder is automatically backed up.

Tabbed setup screen
A redesign of the setup screen with options under separate tabs.


New features in detail:


MIDI
MIDI is set up using the MIDI button at the top of the screen. Turning this on puts you in MIDI learn mode. When in MIDI learn mode, hovering over any UI control button, knob, or other parameter will display a pop-up box showing the MIDI assignment for that control. Clicking on the UI control will display a pop-up box showing MIDI assignment options. Touching a MIDI control will assign the midi control to the UI control.

Off-Line player
The off line player allows you to do more preparation without any hardware connected.

The keyboard shortcuts are the same as for the left deck - remember you can click on the ? button for a full list of shortcuts.

AAC support
AAC files are now supported exactly like MP3, AIFF and WAV files.

New Relative mode options
There are two new options in the vinyl control tab on the setup screen which affect relative mode:

- drop to absolute position:
Means that you can needle drop to the absolute position in relative mode. When the needle is lifted off the record for more that 0.5 seconds and moved to a different groove, The playhead will jump to the absolute position. This means you can now skip around the track with the needle but still use cues and loops.

- drop to cue points
Means that you can needle drop to cue points in relative mode. Repositioning the needle to within any of the first 5 minutes on the control vinyl will jump to those corresponding cue points. In other words, moving the needle to within the first minute will perform a needle drop to the first cue point. Moving it to within the second minute will needle drop to the second cue point and so on. If no cue points exist for a track, the first minute will also restart the track.

- restart track on vinyl lead-in
Bringing the needle to the lead in before the first minute will restart the track. This option is always on. Note that if drop to absolute position is on, the vinyl offset setting is considered to be the start of the track.

Autolooping
5 auto-loop buttons are available on screen at any one time. They range from 1/8 to 32 bars. The user can select the autoloop range with the < and > buttons.

Pressing auto-loop for n bars will create a loop start point from the nearest beat to the playhead (within reason), and set a loop endpoint n bars in the future. Pressing auto-loop 1 while auto-loop 1 is active will deactivate the loop. Pressing a different auto-loop button while looping is active will extend the endpoint of the current loop to the appropriate new auto-loop length.

As the auto-loop buttons require the track bpm to be set to work, if no track bpm is set, the auto-loop buttons are greyed out.

You can also save an auto-loop to the next available slot. When using an auto-loop, a save button is visible where the lock loop button normally is.

New TTM 57SL effects
The new effects come with the new v3 firmware. To update your mixer to get the new effects, with your TTM 57SL connected, go to the hardware tab on the setup screen, and click update.

The v3 firmware should be fully compatible with 1.7.4 (The new effects just aren't selectable in 1.7.4).

What's new in v3:

- A new Phaser effect.
- A new Flanger effect.
- The Desecrator effect (bit crusher and downsampler).
- HP Echo
- HP Hold Echo

Phaser:
* Is a pre-fader effect
* P1 Controls the design frequency
* P1 second function taps the bpm as per the filter effects
* P2 Controls the feedback
* P2 second function controls the phaser depth

Flanger:
* Is a pre-fader effect
* P1 controls the base delay. This is in ms.
* P1 second function taps the bpm. The bpm affects the LFO sweep rate
* P2 controls feedback which provides fullness to the flanger effect
* P2 second function controls the depth which represents the peak delay change.

Desecrator:
* Is a pre-fader effect
* P1 controls the drive.
* P2 controls the down sampler.
* P2 second function controls the bit depth

HP Echo:
* The standard Echo, with a high pass filter added to remove the bass

HP Hold Echo:
* The standard Hold Echo, with a high pass filter added to remove the bass

LFO syncing - A single tap of the bpm button resyncs the LFO.

Relocate lost files
There is a new button in the library tab of the setup screen, called "relocate lost files".
If you drag a folder onto this button, it will go through that folder (and all the folders within that folder) looking for files that match with tracks Scratch LIVE has marked as missing. This means you can move stuff all over your harddrive, and then drag your music folder(s) onto this button and all the missing files will be automatically fixed.

Auto-Backup
For every drive containing the ScratchLIVE folder, Auto-Backup will backup this folder every week, on ScratchLIVE startup.
The ScratchLIVE folder is backed up to a folder called ScratchLIVEBackup, found in the same place as the ScratchLIVE folder.
Auto-Backup will only keep ONE backup at a time, i.e. it will always back up to the same folder.


Miscellaneous changes:

- Fixed when stopping recording, not revealing the recording in the recorded crate

- Added support for the deck level meters when recording channels A or B with the TTM 57SL

Last edited by dj_soo; Oct 26, 07 at 11:49 AM.
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Sweet.
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nice. altho i think i'll wait for the actual release before moving over.
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Old Oct 26, 07
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nice. altho i think i'll wait for the actual release before moving over.
and well you should, but it's worth the d/load just to check out the new features...

The site tells you how to have more than one version running on the same pc

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oh wicked, thats what i was worried about. although i could always use 1.7 on my laptop and dl 1.8 onto my pc
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this is huge. I get so sick of connecting my usb and one rca to edit my tracks and shit when i dont wanna play.

Auto looping is pretty dec.

I'm still looking for an auto update files folder so if you arent using itunes and you move tracks to different folders it would sychronize with scratchlive.
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IMMUH TRY THIS OUT ON THE VISTA LAPTOP, LEAVE THE OLD ONE 1.7
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Soo... why not just live on the edge and play out live with 1.8 on Leopard. LOL.
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Old Oct 26, 07
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this is huge. I get so sick of connecting my usb and one rca to edit my tracks and shit when i dont wanna play.

Auto looping is pretty dec.

I'm still looking for an auto update files folder so if you arent using itunes and you move tracks to different folders it would sychronize with scratchlive.

Relocate lost files

There is a new button in the library tab of the setup screen, called "relocate lost files".
If you drag a folder onto this button, it will go through that folder (and all the folders within that folder) looking for files that match with tracks Scratch LIVE has marked as missing. This means you can move stuff all over your harddrive, and then drag your music folder(s) onto this button and all the missing files will be automatically fixed.
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golden. that should make finding moved files on vista that much easier.
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Soo... why not just live on the edge and play out live with 1.8 on Leopard. LOL.
i'll let you do that first - let me know how it goes :P
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Relocate lost files

There is a new button in the library tab of the setup screen, called "relocate lost files".
If you drag a folder onto this button, it will go through that folder (and all the folders within that folder) looking for files that match with tracks Scratch LIVE has marked as missing. This means you can move stuff all over your harddrive, and then drag your music folder(s) onto this button and all the missing files will be automatically fixed.
thnx for that bruvva!
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it's all there in the release notes :)
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IM GOING TO DJ THE SHIT OUT OF THIS SHIT LIKE A FUCKEN DJ
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let me know how it goes - no way I'll play out with this until i can play for 6 hours straight with no issues
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YA IM GOING TO PUT IT THROUGH ITS PACES TONIGHT
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the MIDI input option really catches my eye, looks really cool Thanks for the info :)
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Old Oct 27, 07
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auto looping is pretty sweet! running smooth so far on my pc...
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Old Oct 29, 07
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relocating lost files is where its at.

i was hating life after i lost all 60 % of my files 3 different times when i first got serato.
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Old Oct 29, 07
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2 obvious bugs so far:

Column width seems to get reset with every boot of the program so you have to resize them if you like to customize your columns

Internal clock goes from 12am -> 11pm internally
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Old Oct 30, 07
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Anyone want to buy a pioneer 909? The one effect I love to use is the fader roll which basically takes a bar and samples it or in other words its like the auto loop function but a lot more difficult to use.

I've been setting up cues and loops on 1.8 for my gig which I'll use 1.7 for. Love it.
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Old Oct 30, 07
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did a small restaurant gig with 1.8 the other night - 4 hour set with no problems other than the clock and the column re-sizing issue.

Didn't really use many loops or the auto-looping mind you.

The needle drop to cue point feature is pretty fucking cool...
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Old Nov 01, 07
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Another 4 hours on 1.8 playing out live. No issues other than those mentioned.

needle drop to cue points is fucking awesome for those gigs where you're forced to put the laptop in a crappy location - haven't had a problem with it yet. Needle drop to absolute, i haven't tried but I'm sure there's the tablist that would really appreciate that for tricks...

Still haven't tried it with a midi controller tho. Anyone?
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