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Old May 03, 07
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How Much Pot is Too Much?

I only take two puffs occasionally, and it's been 4-20 since i toked last (one puff).

Before my head used to spin, now I just get the stoned feeling with occasional losses of consciousness, not unlike after a good glass of beer.

Has anyone smoked so much skunk s/he experienced paranoia, engaged in a fight, or suspected a bedmate of infidelity etc?

After being bullied by paranoid chronics on a medical marijuana list, I just stopped receiving the email list.


This is why I ask: UN warns of cannabis dangers as it backs 'IoS' drugs 'apology' - Independent Online Edition > Health Medical

Chronic use of marijuana is associated with what the experts call schizophrenia.

Though the DSM-IV gives entries for psychosis due to marijuana, anxiety due to marijuana, and paranoia due to marijuana.

Heck, maybe even a schizotypal with bipolar symptoms diagnosis could be worsened by marijuana.

However, overall I have noticed that the mentally ill claim their meds make them normal and they would never smoke marijuana again.

Others are more experienced and claim that marijuana never affects anyone the same way (I concur), and even seroquel can give you waking dreams one time and make you feel blah another time.

NB: I do not miss the head-spinning from the skunk. However, old pot where the bud is less green and the hash on it is tan-brown is just killer stone at two puffs.
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I have never been paranoid because of bud. No matter how much I smoke, all it does is mellow me the fuck out. I think loss of consciousness and violent, paranoid urges are a good sign that you shouldn't toke, buddy.
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i made some killer weed butter one day, from like 2 full ziplock bags of trim.

Too impatient to turn it into something digestible, we poured it over some pop corn.

Kept smoking bowls and eating the potkorn waiting for it to kick in. It never did.

I woke up the next morning at 2pm and i could not walk, sit up and barely see. It took me till about 7 to even get out of bed.

That much weed was too much weed.
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5 days ago was a good case of "this much was too much"...

10 minutes or so and I was giggling... 15 minutes in and I couldn't stop laughing. Then onwards, I lost track of time completely. Everything looked as though it had been chopped up into various "Scenes" that were constantly being replayed... each scene changing only slightly with movement.

At some points the same scene kept repeating itself, sometimes very rapidly. It was so dizzying that I just wanted it all to stop. At that point I couldn't tell the difference between reality and hallucination.
I could barely feel my body and had to keep reassuring myself that I was still conscious and not just dreaming by shifting positions once in a while.

Many thoughts raced through my head and I was paranoid that I was speaking my mind. I had to keep touching my lips and covering my mouth to reassure myself that I wasn't actually thinking out loud. I found out after I came down that the whole time I was actually sitting motionless and speechless for over an hour, with a glazed over look in my eyes as though I was sleeping with my eyes open.

My friend eventually helped me walk downstairs to his room, which was a humongous effort on my part because I barely felt connected to my body. I remember thinking the whole time.. how much I wanted it all to stop. I finally started to speak after 2 hours and the high subsided when I was able to talk again...

Never again will I underestimate the power of pot.
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The catatonia is mistaken for schizophrenia. The only difference is I am waiting for someone to talk to me.

In a real catatonia, you jdon't want to fucken move and are more waxen.

Though, when I had my head spin, I was waiting for it to stop spinning. Maybe now I am waiting for it to start!

If catatonia is a problem, then water-filtered bong hits should get rid of it.

But I bet the paranoia and anxiety would set in.

Proof that the paranoia is related to THC: More evidence of cannabis-induced psychosis

What's unknown is if being in a clinical environment set off the psychosis, given that when allowed to lay in a presumably darkened room, one of the respondents here did not report anxiety, paranoia or other psychotic symptoms.

The two effects I noticed was a lack of anxiety about using marijuana, which I rate as a positive in comparison with earlier experiences prior to February 2005.

I wonder if this has anything to do with fortifying my brain with regular doses of tyrosine (at least 250 mg / day) and 5-htp (50-100 mg / day).

But hell, if you could afford to blaze, then you probably eat better than I do.

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meh... I agree with Mr. Tiedye on this one.
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WHAT? How can a stoner not know of weed butter? It's the foundation for all that is delicious in herbal baking.

Take a double boiler, boil water in it. Fluff up your bud and dump it in once it's at a rolling boil. There will be a yellow film on top. Let it boil down to nearly dry (so not much water).

Pour it through a strainer into the top pot of the double boiler and be sure to press out the wet bud so it drips through the strainer too.

Fill the bottom pot with water again and get it boiling. Now take the butter (how ever much of it you need for your recipe) and melt it into the bud stock (if you add some flour, you now have a rue for gravy or other sauces). Put it in the fridge and let cool or just dump it into whatever you're making.

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You can also just throw the butter into the boiling water and put it in the freezer overnight. The bud butter and water will separate.
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Stick with a half ounce and about a dozen cookies and you'll have a great night.

Go an ounce and you'll probably be gonzo.
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But it's not BC bud so you can probably down a QP in a weekend ha. Poor right coasters.
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i thought this was how much is too much, not "im a light-weight"
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its never too much
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I get paranoid when I smoke weed, but it's never like My-girlfriend-is-cheating paranoid. Usually social paranoia - I'm overly apologetic, babbling to explain my actions as if they needed explanation, etc. If I smoke more it doesn't increase the paranoia though, just makes me feel lethargic and starts giving me trailers/visuals or I just pass out.

Too much alcohol can kill you. Too much weed just makes you pass out.
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I used to be quite paranoid when smokin weed but not that much anymore. Now it just calms me down during stressed times or makes me write NON stop when I am feelng creative.
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one time i smoked this joint of pot and for 13 minutes I felt like I was a tall glass of orange juice, screaming at the heavens to not let me spill. I then leaped off a third story building because I thought I saw a cotton candy elephant in the air and I had stretch armstrong's strong strechty arms to reach... but fell down.
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The worst thing thats ever happened to me after smoking too much dope is falling asleep.
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I quit smoking weed because i started totally wiggin out when i did. I wasnt cool. I had been blazing a decent ammount every day for a couple of years (bout an 1/8th a day.. meh) and then it just started to make me feel very panic'd and anxious. It got to the point that it was like being claustrophobic except the entire world was the confined space.

So, yea. I don't smoke weed anymore :P
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I have never been paranoid because of bud. No matter how much I smoke, all it does is mellow me the fuck out. I think loss of consciousness and violent, paranoid urges are a good sign that you shouldn't toke, buddy.

He's right...
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First few times I smoked it got framage and some pretty heavy paranoia...but if anything it made me face that paranoia, and has since gone away. There was just a threshold of it ready to give after I puffed it enough times, and now it's just something for a feast or to chill.
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to quote dave: "Usually social paranoia - I'm overly apologetic, babbling to explain my actions as if they needed explanation, etc."

from time to time. usually though it's just me and my other half, and i just act retarded (like usual). how much pot is too much? if you eat it, when it makes you sick. because of that i will never eat any marijuana products again!

smoking... well, i guess you'll be asleep when it's "too much", haha.
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2 space cakes in amsterdam=too much pot
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As for the whole weed-causes-schizophrenia thing....

Yeah sure. Weed makes me talk to myself and twitch a whole bunch - behaviour reminiscent of schizophrenics. But much like my mild ADD and OCD, I fail to see how that's necessarily a Bad Thing. Twitching is just a side-effect of weed. Usually when I talk to myself I find that verbalizing my issues/frustrations lets me think through them more logically clearly.

Weed has helped me get the following:
- motivation (moved out of my parents' basement about, oh, a month after finally admitting to myself I was a stoner)
- prioritization (my mind bounces all over the place. Slowing it down with weed gives me a chance to focus on what's really bothering me and then I can just deal with that)
- relaxation (I'm too strung out as it is)
- a social check (Very often, when people have a problem with me, I'm fairly oblivious about it. The social-paranoia aspect of weed helps me occasionally tell myself "Hey Dave, you're being a dick. Stop it.")

Thing is I smoke weed every day and my life has done nothing but improve since that started. My results aren't typical, and it is really easy to become a stereotypical stoner who just sits around the house every hour of every day and does nothing.

You can control the drugs, or you can let the drugs control you.
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you haven't tried one of my brownies I see.
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