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Old Jul 02, 07
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Salvia!!

So, a few of my friends and I heard about this, and were very entrigued. Does anyone know where I can get some? I heard that it's over the counter, and only works with a jet lighter, or the chemicals that give you your "Spiritual Journey" don't release. Any information about these mint leaves would be appreciated. Thank you!
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Old Jul 02, 07
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Erowid Salvia Divinorum (Ska Pastora) Vault

I think looking for good sources on the internet regarding anything like this is better then asking a message board full of people with opinions rather then facts.
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Old Jul 02, 07
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So, a few of my friends and I heard about this, and were very entrigued. Does anyone know where I can get some? I heard that it's over the counter, and only works with a jet lighter, or the chemicals that give you your "Spiritual Journey" don't release. Any information about these mint leaves would be appreciated. Thank you!
You don't need a jet lighter. But you do need a SOBER babysitter. Preferably one with salvia experience. Also BEWARE!!! Salvia isn't necessarily "fun". It can be very, very scary. I've seen a few people go completely outta control. Of the people I know who have done it, about 25% enjoyed the experience. Also, it isn't mint leaves; it's a type of sage, and completely legal. You can buy it at that smoke shop on Hastings (and Cambie I think?).
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Old Jul 02, 07
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there are many smoke shops around vancouver where you can get it.

Personally I really enjoyed the experience. Very introspective, quite a good tool. Like Myka said, its not necessarily fun. If you go in with an open mind you may just learn something.

For myself I have only done it a hand full of times. Dont buy too much your first time as you probably wont use it all. It is something that most (including myself) enjoy sampling but not using often. (I would be happy using it maybe once a year).

Oh and buy the extract. Unless your lungs can hold an extremely large amount of smoke I would suggest the 10x extract. With the extract you only need to take 2 hits, and just hold it in for 20-30 secs.

having a sitter is good for your first time, although I personally prefer doing it with nobody in the room as it helps me clear my mind more for the experience. This is not recommended at all, and I would strongly suggest that you get a sober sitter for your first few times.
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Old Jul 03, 07
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I'd also suggest being experienced with high doses of other hallucinagens so that you are familiar with the feeling of total loss.

You are also correct with the lighter method. This is mainly why people report having a fun experience with Salvia. They get that light headed or weird stoned feeling Salvia can produce if not inhaled/heated properly. Those are the beginner stages. If you roast it for longer and draw the smoke into a bag using a third lung technique then the smoke is much more active and easier for you to inhale a massive amount in 2 or 3 - 20 second hoots.

Also things like cameras and your friends staring at you can become prying/annoying/horrifying objects if you break through. Some suggest darkly lit or dark rooms on a bed with someone you trust greatly, in complete silence.

Music and weird colored lights and annoying friends going "Dude are you high yet" can really put a damper on your experience as you struggle to understand their meaning.

It's short acting (3-5 minutes) but inside your head it can feel like a very long time.

So if done right you can have a bizarre experience, but it's definitely not awe-inspiring like other hallucinogens. It's basically used as a powerful healing plant so it's meant to let you communicate with "spirits" but if you have all these distractions then you'll get nothing out of it.

I never worked with it enough to actually explore the world in a healing way. It was more like i was dropped off for a second and decided to get the hell out of that chaotic world of maya robots.

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Old Jul 03, 07
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Most of what I've heard about Salvia is that it's stupid crazy but quick the first time you try it, but after that it's pretty pointless.

Be interested in trying it if I'm in the right setting, but it hasn't really presented itself.
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Old Jul 04, 07
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shits hilarious haha ive done it... got it @ some wierd store.. 4get the name. its like a 60second high but if u smoke it properly ull have a hell of a trip the 1rst 20-30 seconds lol. fun 2 try i guess but ill never do it again its a total waste of $
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Old Jul 04, 07
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It isn’t really a pleasant experience. It’s really hard to describe and experiences vary. The first time I took it the world basically imploded on itself, suddenly space started shrinking vertically, I tried to run from it but I couldn’t so I fell and space kept shrinking. The second time I did it while coming off of mushrooms I put on a record (soteg) and took a couple hoots, the music took a physical female form and talked to me. I don’t really know what she said though, well at least not consciously.

A buddy of mine took it @ sham one summer, he told us we were all Lego and he just wanted to impress us with his flashlight. The whole time he was just laughing his ass off- so hard he stared drooling.

Its more fun watching people on it than doing it.

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Old Jul 04, 07
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its like a 60second high but if u smoke it properly ull have a hell of a trip the 1rst 20-30 seconds lol. fun 2 try i guess but ill never do it again its a total waste of $
If you take a couple rock star tokes it should last much longer (up to 20 mins :wacko: ). A 60 second high is just the very beginning! Waste of money? It's like $20 for at least 4-6 sessions.

Want some real "fun" on it? Do it blindfolded in a very quiet room! :nuts: If you don't :cry: I would be mightily impressed!
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Old Jul 04, 07
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make sure your intent is pure.

make sure you have a tripp sitter.

make sure you burn it for as long as you can.

and make sure you pay CLOSE attention to what you see and what you are told when your visting those other frequencys and dimensional channels.be prepared that you might face things about you and what you think is your life that you do not like. embrace that and learn from that. thats the reason why these keys are here for us to use. to learn.

decypher makes a good point about being able to handle the extreme loss of ego. the fear and holding on to your ego is what turns many a entheogenic experience into a scary one.

set and setting too. last week i smoked at the mayan site of chichen itza. that was something elese let me tell ya!!!!....good lord. lol lol

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Old Jul 04, 07
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Shit made me a plant.
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Old Jul 08, 07
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Ya, this is something to try if you're a fan of the dissociating drugs. I've done it maybe 5 times - probably won't again. It does some pretty crippling things to the old mind, but only in the short term. I had unexplainable experiences of time and space. Left me pensive and introspective. Best suggestion I can give is work your way up with the doses.
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Old Jul 08, 07
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I tried it for the first time today, and I'm not saying I enjoyed it, but I didn't dislike it either. It was pretty intense, we were in a park and I guess that was a bad idea. My friends told me I was hilarious. I was searching in the plants for a green kitty or something along those lines.

It was pretty fun though, I didn't know what was going on. I was flying, then suddenly I was one with the clouds, and I dropped down. Then it basically went away. We bong'd it with a jet lighter.

The overall experience was pretty fun. More so watching my friends do it then me doing it myself. We basically were sitting each other, as one of us got fucked up. My Salvia cherry has been popped!
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Old Jul 09, 07
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We bong'd it with a jet lighter.
The most effective way to use it is to use a very short pipe. The shorter the distance the smoke has to travel the better. However, you just may not want it to work uber effectively!!

Glad you had fun! Think you'll do it again?
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Old Jul 09, 07
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The experience was very short lived. It's not up to me if I try it again, although I would like to. It's up to my 2 friends. I hit the bowl of salvia like I hit pot, not nearly as pleasant (Or tasty). I cleared the bowl, and the bong is only 6 inches, so I think it was fine. I think we each lasted about 4-7 minutes completely fucked.
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Old Jul 11, 07
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....heightened.

will definatley do again for further path exploration.
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salvia is frightening. It's worth trying, but it's not your average recreational substance. Unlike lsd and mushrooms, there is little to no euphoria to cushion the experience... until you start coming down and realize life hasn't desintegrated into nacho cheese on some digital doritos.

I still have some leftover from when I was experimenting/selling it a few years ago....collecting dust! ha ha ha
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Old Aug 31, 07
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I tried salvia a few times while finding a substitute from pot.

you can buy it from the marijuana store near amsterdam cafe.

you need to smoke a lot, it tastes like ass and kills the lungs.. not bad for a 5 minute high. whoopdy do.

try dmt.
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Old Aug 31, 07
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you can buy it from the Urban Shaman Entheobotanicals in the Amsterdam cafe.
Yup.:D
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Old Aug 31, 07
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Shit made me a plant.
Made me go into my tv... my gf had it on the one who was sober. I was standing with the dude from street smarts. Totally freaked me out. Never did it again.
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Old Sep 01, 07
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LOL I was just gonna bring this back up too, i just smoked up with 3 buddys today at trout lake. It was pretty sick, I was a cloud melting into a lightbulb, and I fell into a coffee mug and was dranken then spat out into a river of vodka. I then became an egg and hatched out with wings n shit. I was done, it was truly amazing. The only slops to my experience this time was me getting sand in both my shoes, my mouth, ear, insides of my sleeve and in my pants. Sand sucks.
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Old Sep 23, 07
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Damn this shit is funny! Does it harm your body like drugs??
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Old Sep 24, 07
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try dmt.
have you smoked it?...ive smoked dmt a number of times and unless youve done it you shouldnt really be recomending it.

if you have.'

then i salute you.....
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Damn this shit is funny! Does it harm your body like drugs??

It is a drug...

I've done it, it was interesting. Fun for 15 mins, then afterwords I kinda felt like shit.
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