gay pride

[Rhianna]

I got into a HUGE fight w/ the boys at school about this. They were saying that there shouldn't be a pride parade because it opens up people’s minds to accepting gays. And if you're going to do that you might as well have a parade for pedophiles. Wow, I sure do love ignorant people, they’re so great.

It’s just a harmless parade. Don’t the ignorant straight people of the world have more important things to worry about? Homosexuals have been told for years that they are different, sick, wrong, going to hell, etc. I think they have the right to have a parade for themselves. If you're upset that gay's get to have a parade then why don't you have a parade for straight people?

It is just about acceptance and showing that they are proud of who they are.

[MissBehavior]

My plan is to teach my kids to accept everyone for who they are, regardless of race, religion, orientation, etc.

If my child were to bring home one of those "horrible, explicit" books that the Surrey school board has fought against for the last 5 or so years, I'd read it to them, answer any questions they had, and be glad that I could give them a lesson in acceptance and tolerance.

It makes me sick to know that people can bring their kids up to know hatred and fear of something, just because they don't understand it, or because their perception

In all religions, the prominent Prophet (best word to encompass all religions) taught love and compassion. Why the hell can't we all live our lives by that teaching, religious or not?

[rawb]

Originally posted by MissBehavior
In all religions, the prominent Prophet (best word to encompass all religions) taught love and compassion. Why the hell can't we all live our lives by that teaching, religious or not?

because most religions also tell us/suggest homosexuality is wrong?

you can't boil religious teaching down to some salad bar concept of 'hey this shit works, but im going to just ignore this 1/2 of it because i don't agree with it'.

[miss.myra]

Originally posted by MissBehavior



In all religions, the prominent Prophet (best word to encompass all religions) taught love and compassion. Why the hell can't we all live our lives by that teaching, religious or not?

Well, I am not indicating that I would agree or disagree, but I would like to clarify some things (on behalf of religious people out there- I myself am not one of them)

If a religion suggests that it is opposed to homosexuality, that does not indicate that the person who follows that religion should not love the other person and not show compassion for the individual. I don't think that any religious writing says that. It's someone's own personal choice that makes them be assholes about it, and it's a shame that they have to be cowards and let their ignorance hide behind their religion. I have trouble with a lot of my religious friends/family members thinking something like homosexuality is 'wrong', but at the same time, they're not a bunch of slack-jawed biggots. It is important to be clear and consistent- it is lame to stereotype homosexuals, as it is lame to do that to religion.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

I hate it when people come up with the ever so witty rebuttle of "homosexuality is wrong all fags are going to hell" Did god not give the life of his only begotten son(Jesus) for sinners? Does it not state in the bible that all sinners are indeed forgiven? Thats what I hate about the bible cuz its so fucking contradictory.

Anyways back to the subject,gay pride is like Canada day.

[LoveKat]

the pride parade is not just about being gay. it is about celebrating freedom and acceptance.

i have never been into the whole pride thing because i have never felt that i really fit in with the gay community. pride 2000 was the first parade that i have missed since 1994. i would usually volunteer with the youthquest float, but my spirit wasn't completely there.

this year, i found out that my brother and his fiancee watched the parade. my brother who didn't talk to me for the first five years following my coming out. they were not there to celebrate being gay. they were there to celebrate love and diversity and to be apart of that togetherness.

on a final note, hetrosexuality is shoved in society's face every day. just turn on the television and you will see programs and advertisments targeted towards boy-girl relationships. the world is changing, but it is still extremely heterocentric. the battle experienced to bring a same-sex date to a high school prom is a clear example of that.

[Rytalin]

Originally posted by rawb


because most religions also tell us/suggest homosexuality is wrong?

you can't boil religious teaching down to some salad bar concept of 'hey this shit works, but im going to just ignore this 1/2 of it because i don't agree with it'.

that sounds completely backwards to me.

if you do that, you result in spirituality instead of organized religion.

spirituality, which says pretty much the same thing at the core, which is basically to live your life with as much love as possible. (or something to that effect)

and I really don't see that as being a bad thing.


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[rawb]

Originally posted by Rytalin


that sounds completely backwards to me.

if you do that, you result in spirituality instead of organized religion.

spirituality, which says pretty much the same thing at the core, which is basically to live your life with as much love as possible. (or something to that effect)

and I really don't see that as being a bad thing.


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yeah, but that's complete bullshit.

you can't half believe a religion. if you want to make up your own beliefs thats super, but you can't devote your life to a omnipotent power, and then say hey wait a sec, i think in this case you were wrong and i was right!. when you do that you're placing your own thoughts and conclusions in front of someone you're telling everyone you believe is the beginning and end of all that there is.

which makes completely no sense.

if you're using 'spirituality' as a way to basicly go around and try to decide which parts of which religions work and don't, then you're basicly placing yourself on level above all prophets (people that have spoken to LARGE DEVINE BEING for lack of a better word) and all supposed physical manifestations of LARGE DEVINE BEING, which to me personally seems completely wrong. to say thousands of years of teaching and interpetation and seperate belief somehow boils down to some devine truth that your mortal mind can comprehend doesn't work. especially if , at least, all you know about major religions is second hand knowledge of rhetoric and people's own biast arguments, and at most, have first hand knowledge of maybe one denomination of one western religion.

you can't just skip your way towards enlightenment based on what side of the bed you wake up on in the morning.

anyways... WHAT WAS THIS THREAD ABOUT AGAIN I MAY HAVE GONE OFF TRACK.

[meth0dical]

Originally posted by miss.myra
For everyone bitching- how much adversity have you faced in life for being a heterosexual? I'm going to guess not a lot.

Why aren't you all bitching during black history month? Christmas? Rememberance Day? Other people's birthdays? Chinese New year? You say it's a 'choice'- people choose to become certain religions too, and to fight in wars, and to celebrate their cultural heritage all the same.

You may think you have a point, but with the way you're all justifying it, we should just go ahead and shit on everyone else's holidays because it apparently doesn't include them. Grow up!

i agree, except without the attitude and "grow up" comment.

[meth0dical]

Originally posted by rawb
you can't half believe a religion.

thats untrue, i belive certain parts of different religions, but i dont belive in a specific religion.

but this is the wrong thread for that :P

[watscum]

Originally posted by bungoshlung
wuts the big deal?

i hope this doesnt offend anyone because i'm just curious about the subject. i'm not homophobic or anything but why do gays have to make it such a big deal about themselves and make sure that everyone else has to know about their sexual preference... with the flags, bumper stickers and parades and all.

i mean, you dont see me sporting a 'straight' badge on my backpack or sticker on my car. you dont see bisexuals sporting their own flags either.

so why is it that gays have to make it such a big deal for the public to know?

its not gay pride. its pride.
besides, its intended for the GLBT community anyways, so bisexuals are included in that cohort.

it also serves to chaperone closet GLBTers into a community that will accept them with open arms. we straights simply do not need such a venue.

[bungoshlung]

yes, i have noticed that i worded it wrong in the beginning.. many have told me about the 'pride' thing already.. thanks

[rawb]

Originally posted by watscum


its not gay pride. its pride.
besides, its intended for the GLBT community anyways, so bisexuals are included in that cohort.

it also serves to chaperone closet GLBTers into a community that will accept them with open arms. we straights simply do not need such a venue.

you know 98% of what you post is such inane bullshit that i almost skipped this comment. this is probably the most eloquent answer in the entire thread. props.

[watscum]

^ why thank you :)

[inkster]

Originally posted by meth0dical


thats untrue, i belive certain parts of different religions, but i dont belive in a specific religion.

well... you *can* believe in more than one religion and pick and choose your way around things. no one can prevent you from doing that.

but, i think you're missing the point...

[kimmay candy]

You are who you are. Gay,striaght les..Bi whatever floats yourboat...or blows your load.

[bungoshlung]

^ i dont get how comments like these can come from my question

[c.tard]

^ i don't either. but comments like that come from her all the time so that's not unusual.

[bungoshlung]