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Old Aug 05, 03
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gay pride

wuts the big deal?

i hope this doesnt offend anyone because i'm just curious about the subject. i'm not homophobic or anything but why do gays have to make it such a big deal about themselves and make sure that everyone else has to know about their sexual preference... with the flags, bumper stickers and parades and all.

i mean, you dont see me sporting a 'straight' badge on my backpack or sticker on my car. you dont see bisexuals sporting their own flags either.

so why is it that gays have to make it such a big deal for the public to know?
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Old Aug 05, 03
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Pride weekend and the pride parade is a wonderful way to show acceptance
I don't wear a sticker that says I'm a hetero slut
but I sure do talk about boys and sex a lot, so my sexuality can be inferred from what I say

Pride weekend is big and colorful and it's well documented in the media - it is Vancouver showing that we are accepting of our populace - gay or not
In many cities in the world such an event would not be possible - One day, when sexuality really isn't an issue perhaps parades won't happen - who knows?
Just like i don't know of many bra burnings anymore

When any minority is in the thicket of struggle to be accepted - attention must be brought
If you are gay and openly so - maybe your enthusiasm can help a closeted gay come out and be happy with who they are
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Old Aug 05, 03
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i'm so pissed off that i missed it...AGAIN!
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Old Aug 05, 03
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i said something to that same effect the other day
the answer i got:


cause it just seems like every other day is for straights...why not let the gays just have one day?


besides this was a big year...same sex marriages are allowed now...thats a big deal!
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Old Aug 05, 03
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the name has always kind of bugged me too. but it has more of an understood meaning now, than a literal one. sort of like how whenever one mentions the war on terrorism, they're referring to aprehending terrorists. no one actually thinks that they're going to war against an abstract concept, as it would be literally taken.
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Old Aug 05, 03
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bungoshlung!! i agree 100% with you!! ive been feeling the same way for YEARS! i HATE gays who make such a big deal about themselves being gay! almost as if they're showing off that they're gay... its just as bad as someone showing off they're straight

and you get so many gays talking about equality.. well its not equality when gays get a special day but not straights... well... i guess thats why its called "pride" day now instead of "gay pride" day

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Old Aug 05, 03
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bungoshlung!! i agree 100% with you!! ive been feeling the same way for YEARS! i HATE gays who make such a big deal about themselves being gay! almost as if they're showing off that they're gay... its just as bad as someone showing off they're straight

and you get so many gays talking about equality.. well its not equality when gays get a special day but not straights...
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Wow I bet that whole women's lib thing was hard for ya too??

Fucking women. You know which ones I hate most ? The queer ones!!
Down with Mother's Day!
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^ hahaha!!!

stringbeans: just wanna make sure that u understand that i'm not hating on them because of that, i'm just curious to why its that way
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Old Aug 05, 03
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i vote for a white trash straight male day, we always get overlooked
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I APPOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE IF I OFFENDED ANYONE
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Old Aug 05, 03
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im not hating either! i have a lot of gay friends... who btw, dont mention that they're gay in every 3rd sentence
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Old Aug 05, 03
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^^ sorry, that was me (stringbeans) under filo's account
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im not hating either! i have a lot of gay friends... who btw, dont mention that they're gay in every 3rd sentence
oh, ok
jsut cuz u said u hated gays that do that so just got a little confused.. its all good
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Old Aug 05, 03
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gay pride is around cuz some people are proud of who they are and want to celebrate it.

-s.
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people are accepting to the idea of the gay pride parade, but i'm thinking if there was such a thing as a "straight parade" or "bisexual parade", there would be very different reactions
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^^ ya the pride parade is cool! celebrating who you are.. its a good thing!

but when people magnify the meaning of pride and raise it to the level of almost bragging, that's when it becomes a problem. its like how you get some asians going "asian pride, asian pride!" i HATE asians who go around saying or writing asian pride every where.. same goes for gays

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people are accepting to the idea of the gay pride parade, but i'm thinking if there was such a thing as a &quot;straight parade&quot; or &quot;bisexual parade&quot;, there would be very different reactions
its actually called the pride parade, not the gay pride parade, that way its politically correct! :D
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Old Aug 05, 03
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gay pride is around cuz some people are proud of who they are and want to celebrate it.

-s.
but by having pride in something that's supposedly not a choice is like having pride in having arms. obviously this is a ridiculous concept so one is forced to conclude that it *is* a choice, and that gay people are different from straight people. now, if they're different, then why should all the same rules apply to them? why should they be accepted at all? they should all be shot!

you can see the dangerous road this logic walks on. it's much better to say that the pride parade has more to do with celebrating acceptance than anything else. the 'pride' aspect of it seems to be a throwback to earlier times. it wouldn't suprise me if the name was changed at some time in the future to reflect modern views.

then, after that, there might not even be a need for a parade. just as every day is straight day, every day might be gay day.
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btw, apologies to crazy dave
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Old Aug 05, 03
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I'm proud of who I am and I want to celebrate it.
Where the hell is my damn parade?
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^ thats wut i'm talkin about.. no one else gets a parade
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Old Aug 05, 03
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For everyone bitching- how much adversity have you faced in life for being a heterosexual? I'm going to guess not a lot.

Why aren't you all bitching during black history month? Christmas? Rememberance Day? Other people's birthdays? Chinese New year? You say it's a 'choice'- people choose to become certain religions too, and to fight in wars, and to celebrate their cultural heritage all the same.

You may think you have a point, but with the way you're all justifying it, we should just go ahead and shit on everyone else's holidays because it apparently doesn't include them. Grow up!
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Old Aug 05, 03
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To put it a little more in perspective. Why did they have the freedom marches? It is essentially the same reason. We need these types of events to show that there are many MANY people out there that are a part of this lifestyle and there are also many MANY who support it. It is not about going out and having a big party it is to go out and say, look, here we are, what we are does not hurt anyone...Stop the hate and animosity against us.

And if you think that gays and lesbians still don't face serious discrimination then walk down any highschool hallway or in almost any workplace and count how many times you hear something described negatively by the word "gay". Sorry, but words hurt and unless you've been on the recieving end of it you really have no idea how it feels no matter how many gay friends you might have. Gay pride is a striving for acceptance in a society that is still largely heterosexual. Sure we may not be as somber as the black pride movements of the late 50s but the core idea as to WHY we do it is the same. I don't like it when people are in your face about their nationality, sexual preference, skin colour, etc, but events like this are about normalizing it to some extent.

If only one homophobe walks away from the parade saying: "wow, that was really fun. There were so many people there and they weren't hurting anyone by being who they were. Maybe there is really nothing wrong with being gay." Then I think the parade was a success...
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i'm not bitching about it or saying its a bad thing. i was just wondering why gays are the only ones that have a parade, and some very good points have been brought up.
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Old Aug 06, 03
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Why aren't you all bitching during black history month? Christmas? Rememberance Day? Other people's birthdays? Chinese New year? You say it's a 'choice'- people choose to become certain religions too, and to fight in wars, and to celebrate their cultural heritage all the same.
i don't think anyone here really believes it's a choice. this is mainly why people have issues with 'pride' day. if it isn't a choice, and this is a natural occurance of living, then there is really nothing to be prideful about.

however, as mentioned ooddles of times before, pride day has more to do with acceptance than anything else. i just wish they'd change the fucking name.
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