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  #26 (permalink)  
Old Jun 15, 05
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i dont think there is a problem right now so im going to say no
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Old Jun 16, 05
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" In fact, if I ever smoked marijuana, my biggest fear is that I may like it more than cabernet, and then what the hell am I going to do ? "


- Larry Campbell



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Old Jun 16, 05
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let the city make some money!

the dealers won't lose out that much because I'm sure they sell other drugs too.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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its a horrible idea not just for our dealers sakes
but weed will be more expensive for us to buy

the states are going to fuckin hate us
itll be alot of fun @ the borders tryin 2 get into the states
every young persons will get hassled

we already can pretty much blaze anyway
so dont fix sumn that aint broken
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Old Jun 16, 05
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the usa already hate us.

and young adults already get nagged at the border.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by sh4un
its a horrible idea not just for our dealers sakes
but weed will be more expensive for us to buy

the states are going to fuckin hate us
itll be alot of fun @ the borders tryin 2 get into the states
every young persons will get hassled

we already can pretty much blaze anyway
so dont fix sumn that aint broken

what does legalization of pot in canada have to do with more slack going thru the border?


BC BUD is world renowned; if Americans want it..they know where to get it. Vancouver is the pot-smoking capital of Canada after all.


And dude, if you're having trouble with border officials : Get high BEFORE you go thru ; don't bring it.

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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by Liam
I remember reading a letter to the editor by a BC Marijuana Party member that changed my mind on the subject. He said that if the crime element was taken out of marijuana, so would a lot of the gateway drug elements because people that wanted to smoke marijuana wouldn't have to associate with dealers that sell a variety of drugs other than marijuana.
people dont do new drugs because they are being forced on them or they are just there, people do new drugs because they wanna experience a new high.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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we already can pretty much blaze anyway
so dont fix sumn that aint broken

i agree totaly, there is no problem with the way smoking pot works now, what makes u think it will get better if we change things, infact its soo good now i think there is only one way to go if we change shit and thats down :)
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by ~ katem
what does legalization of pot in canada have to do with more slack going thru the border?


BC BUD is world renowned; if Americans want it..they know where to get it. Vancouver is the pot-smoking capital of Canada after all.


And dude, if you're having trouble with border officials : Get high BEFORE you go thru ; don't bring it.

either you didnt read his entire post or youre completely missing the point, he just means that they are gonna judge every person that comes through as a stoner even tho we are its gonna be worse and we are gonna take ALOT of heat for it.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Oh come on, just because you don't end up in jail for smoking pot doesn't mean that the system isn't broken.

The courts are absolutely bogged down with marijuana charges, and the police department is overloaded. When the average time for police response to any given scene is 13 minutes (avg time for a north american city is 6 minutes) then there is a problem. Fuck, you guys can't pull your heads out of your own ass for a second to realize there is a lot more at stake than your personal privacy when it comes to smoking pot.


Would you say there is no problem if your house was broken into by a bunch of gang-bangers, and the cops can't do sweet fuck all because they are busy responding to a call about some 2-bit grow operation.

Idiots.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by ~ katem
^^isn't most of vancouver STONED anyways?? you make no sense.
yeah, use that argument in your paper or whatever it is you're doing on the subject. i'm sure it'll go far!

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GROW your OWN.
i may be mistaken, but i don't think just any average joe would be allowed to grow pot. if the government is going to legalize it, they're going to want to make money off of it. you would probably have to buy an expensive license from the government in order to grow pot. they're not just going to legalize it and let everyone grow their own plant in their home...why would they do that? they want money, that's the whole reason for doing this, isn't it?
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Agreed, however that doesn't mean we won't be able to grow our own. If you were caught growing your own pot the worst thing that would happen is that you would be fined. It's not like if it were legalized that the only seeds and clones are locked behind titanium doors.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Suprisingly this thread has angered me greatly. There's a lot of dumb fuckin people in here. Don't get me wrong, I smoke a hell of a lot of dope. I have friends that grow, sell, and run the shit over borders. But that's no reason why I should argue against legalization. This world is a lot bigger than you or I, or your dope-smoking grow-buddies. Open your eyes.

Your buddies that grow pot are doing something illegal. ILLEGAL. You cannot in good conscience argue for the continued prohibition on pot just because some stupid kids are making a couple thousand bucks a month on it. That's just stupid.

The majority of the $6 billion (est.) industry here in British Columbia is NOT run by your pal with a pound in his backpack. It is run by organized crime, people that kill, embezzle, and place enormous strains on our legal, police, and health systems.

Legalize the shit out of it and tell your buddies to get real jobs or apply for a grow license.

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Old Jun 16, 05
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"i may be mistaken, but i don't think just any average joe would be allowed to grow pot. if the government is going to legalize it, they're going to want to make money off of it. you would probably have to buy an expensive license from the government in order to grow pot. they're not just going to legalize it and let everyone grow their own plant in their home...why would they do that? they want money, that's the whole reason for doing this, isn't it?[/quote]" - sidekick



listen buddy, if you read all my replies..I did post a quote - direct from Larry Campbell's mouth - about growing your own

here it is again :

" If you want to grow yourself a little bit of marijuana, you grow it. Who really cares, quite frankly "

Last edited by ~ katem; Jun 16, 05 at 02:38 PM.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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^^isn't most of vancouver STONED anyways?? you make no sense.

"yeah, use that argument in your paper or whatever it is you're doing on the subject. i'm sure it'll go far!" - sidekick


Dear Sidekick :


First off buddy : I smoke pot about 3 times a month, tops. I prefer to have a busy and extremely productive day. It feels alot better at the end of that to sometimes kick back and smoke a doob. Trust me, I USED to smoke everyday and I've come alot farther in my life now that I don't.



And as for going far; I will, thanks. Very far, in fact. I don't need some dumb ass raver to tell me otherwise.


However, you did make some good comments so no hard feelings.

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Old Jun 16, 05
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^dude. you should learn to read the posts before you angrily respond to them.

first, i don't smoke pot at all. i stopped doing that almost two years ago. so don't try to preach to me about the benefits of not smoking pot. i have tons of friends that smoke it every day or nearly every day and they are some of the smartest people i know. depends on the person...personally, i'm completely unproductive when stoned.

second, i wasn't saying you were a pothead and that you wouldn't 'go far'. i was trying to say that if you want to sound smart at all in your editorial you wouldn't make stupid claims like 'oh well, isn't everyone in vancouver stoned all the time anyway?' as responses to someone's argument. it makes you look uneducated to make generalizations like that. both you and i know that it's not true (since neither of us are stoned).

and, yeah, that's cool that Larry Campbell thinks that way, but he's not the dude that makes the rules up for this province. that would be good old Gordon Cambpell over in Victoria. i really doubt that Liberals (who are very business minded people) would allow just anyone to grow their own pot and smoke it. these are the same people that cut education and health care money so they could balance the budget...you really think they would pass up an opportunity to tax all of the pot they could? i doubt it.

don't assume i'm a stupid raver. a lot of the people on these boards are very smart people with valid opinions. you just look like you can't defend yourself by calling us stupid ravers.

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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by Captain Hooj
Legalize the shit out of it and tell your buddies to get real jobs or apply for a grow license.
i wasn't saying that because i was trying to defend pot growers everywhere. i was simply pointing out that legalization doesn't necessarily mean that EVERYONE gets to grow pot legally.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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I never thought you were defending pot growers. My comments in that post were directed towards everyone in the thread, not just you. If they were to fully legalize pot I don't think you would legally be able to stop people from growing it. It's not illegal to distill your own alcohol. If you want to grow a tobacco plant, go for it. The government will likely provide the majority of pot to people, but not through regulations. The average person would likely only grow a couple plants which yield every 3 or 4 months, which isn't really a lot of pot. Nor is it going to be very good. That's why most people don't brew their own beer, they buy it at a store. But if you want to brew your own beer, it's within the legalization of alcohol that you are able to do so. Likewise with pot.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by Captain Hooj
I never thought you were defending pot growers. My comments in that post were directed towards everyone in the thread, not just you. If they were to fully legalize pot I don't think you would legally be able to stop people from growing it. It's not illegal to distill your own alcohol. If you want to grow a tobacco plant, go for it. The government will likely provide the majority of pot to people, but not through regulations. The average person would likely only grow a couple plants which yield every 3 or 4 months, which isn't really a lot of pot. Nor is it going to be very good. That's why most people don't brew their own beer, they buy it at a store. But if you want to brew your own beer, it's within the legalization of alcohol that you are able to do so. Likewise with pot.
i totally agree with everything that you said. but you're still missing what i was saying, which was simply warning everyone who was jumping up and down at the prospect of being able to have a grow-op in their home that they would probably still not legally be able to do that.

Last edited by sidekick; Jun 16, 05 at 02:57 PM.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Ah, yes. Well I didn't miss the point, don't worry. I'm sure there will be a limit on the amount of pot one person can produce before they become a potential distributor, which would then require a license. At that point it would be like starting up a brewery or a vineyard. If people really want to, they can.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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yeah, i could definitly see licensing come into effect. i wonder if they'll make you buy your seeds and chemicals from government stores too. just like how we used to have to buy liquor from BCL's.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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They would probably highly suggest it, and for major grow-ops they would be required. But any person with the right equipment can easily breed strains together, and produce whatever kind of seed they wanted. Which would technically be legal. They might place a potency restriction on it, so that if your crop was ever inspected and contained more THC than was allowed you would be charged. Just like moonshine is illegal because it contains an enormous concentration of alcohol, which the government deems dangerous for public consumption. It will be interesting to see what percentage of THC the regulatory board finds acceptable.
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Old Jun 16, 05
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there's so many ways in which they could take the legalization of pot that it will be interesting to see what happens in the future. the licensing, potency, age restriction on buying, whether you can be stoned in public, where it's allowed to be sold, etc...
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Yes, and if Kate was wise she would make her editorial about the potential outcomes of legalization. Wouldn't you Kate?
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Old Jun 16, 05
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Originally Posted by wum
i agree with the legalization but not the taxation. it would certainly give cops and courts more time to deal with real crimes
The revenue from the taxes in one year alone could fix all of our healthcare defecits.
And joints would still be ridiculously cheap compared to how much they are now, imagine buying 20 joint style cigarettes for 10$.
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