Cannabis acts as anti-depressant.

[esoter1c]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4338634.stm

Do we really need reaearch to prove this ?

Like....duh !

[mapleleaf4ever]

I was going to say... WHERE'S THE MONEY FOR MY 5 YEARS OF RESEARCH?!?!

[Goat]

A chemical found in cannabis can act like an antidepressant, researchers have found.

A team from Canada's University of Sasketchewan suggest the compound causes nerve cells to regenerate.

The Journal of Clinical Investigation study showed rats given a cannabinoid were less anxious and less depressed.

But UK experts warned other conflicting research had linked cannabis, and other cannabinoids, to an increased risk of depression and anxiety.

This is a very big leap of faith
Professor Robin Murray, Institute of Psychiatry

They suggested this could be because different cannabinoids acting at different levels have contradictory effects.

Cannabinoids have been shown to relieve the symptoms of multiple sclerosis and pain relief in humans.

They are naturally present in the body, as well as being found in cannabis.

'Complicated effects'

The Canadian researchers gave rats injections of high levels of one artificial cannabinoid, HU210, for a month.

The animals were seen to have nerve cell regeneration in the hippocampus, which is linked to memory and emotions.

The hippocampus has been shown to generate new nerve cells throughout a person's or an animal's life, but this ability is reduced if cells are engineered to lack a cannabinoid receptor protein called CB-1.

In the Canadian study, rats given the cannabinoid were also found to be less anxious, and more willing to eat food in new environments - a change which would normally frighten them.

However, research has previously linked use of the drug cannabis to long-term damage to mental health, and to increase the risk of mental illness in those who are already genetically susceptible.

In addition, short-term high doses of cannabinoids had also been shown to produce anxiety-like effects in rats and depression-like effects in mice.

But other studies had found that low-doses of cannabinoids helped to reduce anxiety in rodents.

The Canadian team said: "These complicated effects of high and low doses of acute and chronic exposure to cannabinoids may explain the seemingly conflicting results observed in clinical studies regarding the effects of cannabinoid on anxiety and depression."

'Raw cannabis is risky'

Professor Robin Murray, of the Institute of Psychiatry, questioned whether the anti-anxiety and antidepressant effects seen in the animals would be replicated in humans.

He said: "This is a very big leap of faith as they have no data on humans, and the supposed animals' models of anxiety and depression that they use don't have much in common with the human conditions."

Paul Corry, Director of campaigns and communication at Rethink said: "Cannabinoids are an exciting new area for medical research, but it is important to recognise that there are over 60 active ingredients in cannabis - synthetic cannabinoid may be showing evidence of nerve regeneration.

"But as also pointed out in this study, the effects of cannabis on the brain are complex and produce conflicting evidence.

" For most people with severe mental illness, raw cannabis remains a risky substance.

"All medical research needs to be checked before it would make a difference to the hundreds of thousands of people living with severe mental illness in the UK."

This shouldn't be a news worthy article.

A chemical found in cannabis can act like an antidepressant, researchers have found.

A chemical found in cannabis doesn't mean shit if it's not in sufficient amounts.

[-evil-duerr-]

there are no "anti-depressants". Thats a myth drug company's congered up to sell product.
Any pill or substance (other than h20, nutrients) advertized as having anti-depressant qualities is bunk. Temporary "cures" for such serious problems do not help in the long run,and in most if not all cases, not only does it make the problem worse but it promotes an unhealthy " i need drugs to function" lifestyle.

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

there are no "anti-depressants". Thats a myth drug company's congered up to sell product.
Any pill or substance (other than h20, nutrients) advertized as having anti-depressant qualities is bunk. Temporary "cures" for such serious problems do not help in the long run,and in most if not all cases, not only does it make the problem worse but it promotes an unhealthy " i need drugs to function" lifestyle.

K, I'm gonna drop one of my "Conspiracy Theories" It's mine, not read.

Rumsfeld was the head of SERLE, serle manufactured aspartame.

Aspartame causes depression.

Now he's the Sec. of Defense.

Wouldn't causing depression in millions of Americans be a "Defense" against people uprising against their gov't ?, sure helps keep the masses docile.

Just a thought.

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

there are no "anti-depressants". Thats a myth drug company's congered up to sell product.
Any pill or substance (other than h20, nutrients) advertized as having anti-depressant qualities is bunk. Temporary "cures" for such serious problems do not help in the long run,and in most if not all cases, not only does it make the problem worse but it promotes an unhealthy " i need drugs to function" lifestyle.

I don't think you actually know anyone who suffers from real clinical depression.

[Genotype]

I know one thing...
Im usually pretty happy when Im sucking on a joint.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by -ff-

I don't think you actually know anyone who suffers from real clinical depression.

Ya? well think again smart ass.
Not that its any of your fuckin business, but
there are several people in my life very near and dear to me who suffer from it and worse psychiatric disorders. I educate myself about these things because i have to live with it and around it.

ya, and what?

[C_squared]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

I was going to say... WHERE'S THE MONEY FOR MY 5 YEARS OF RESEARCH?!?!

you smoked it all man.. you must have forgot.

[Bevvy Swift]

News Flash????!!!!!!! Wow!!!!

[Genotype]

Yeah, I had drug-induced psychosis.
dont partake then....
Marijuanna is a medicine, and should be treated with the respect that it deserves.
do you over do any med, NO...
everything, is harmfull if not used properly.
so dont gimmee none of that skitzo-bull-shit.
Marijuanna saved my fucking life, well I did that.
I use it, as an alternative to Crystal-meth, it helped get me off of the shit...
and it continues to keep me away from it.
I also SUFFER from cronic neck/back injuries...
It helps relax my muscles, much like roboxin, etc...
except, I am not buying into the larger pharmaceutical companies.
I would rather use what comes from the earth.
Thank you EARTH!

[Mista Fitz]

yeah, weeds' an anti-depressant...

.....til you run out... then how you feelin'

(this is meant for a laugh, and not in response to genotype)

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

Ya? well think again smart ass.
Not that its any of your fuckin business, but
there are several people in my life very near and dear to me who suffer from it and worse psychiatric disorders. I educate myself about these things because i have to live with it and around it.

ya, and what?

so how when you educated yourself did you not see that anti-depressents have a serotonin inhibiter that increases your level of serotonin in your brain!! i'm sure if you've educated yourself you know what serotonin does for you!
they don't work for everyone but by no means is it "not helping in the long run,and in most if not all cases, not only does it make the problem worse but it promotes an unhealthy " i need drugs to function" lifestyle"! that's a pretty bold statement to say that in most if not all cases it makes the problem worse! i know more people it has helped than harmed!
although i do agree that a healthy lifestyle and excerise is a better step to try first and it is too easy now to get your hands on such pills!

[Genotype]

It is also a psychoactive/halucinogenic, and is not for many people.
But ...
neither is rytalin, stellazine, or any other drug...
but I would'nt know of the positive effects of marrijuana, if I had'nt smoked/ ate it.

Now...
I am very glad that I use it, not abuse it.
I love marijuana, you love marijuana, We love marijuana 2
I want to be a hippy and I want to get stoned, on mari-marijuana.
I wanna get high and I want to get stoned, on mari-marijuana.
smoke 2 more!


hey yo FnK
we nead a marijuana leaf Icon Mon!

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by TrixX

so how when you educated yourself did you not see that anti-depressents have a serotonin inhibiter that increases your level of serotonin in your brain!! i'm sure if you've educated yourself you know what serotonin does for you!
they don't work for everyone but by no means is it "not helping in the long run,and in most if not all cases, not only does it make the problem worse but it promotes an unhealthy " i need drugs to function" lifestyle"! that's a pretty bold statement to say that in most if not all cases it makes the problem worse! i know more people it has helped than harmed!
although i do agree that a healthy lifestyle and excerise is a better step to try first and it is too easy now to get your hands on such pills!

Yes i am well aware of what seratonin is. I am also well aware of how SSRIs work on the brain.

You are referring to SSRI medications (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor).
Not only have i educated myself about this subject, but i have also spoken with one of the top medical professionals in B.C. about the subject on several occasions for personal reasons.

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/...withdrawal.htm
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/LongTermSSRI.htm

^heres some tidbits the drug companys try to sweep under the rug.

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

Yes i am well aware of what seratonin is. I am also well aware of how SSRIs work on the brain.

You are referring to SSRI medications (selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor).
Not only have i educated myself about this subject, but i have also spoken with one of the top medical professionals in B.C. about the subject on several occasions for personal reasons.

http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/...withdrawal.htm
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/LongTermSSRI.htm

^heres some tidbits the drug companys try to sweep under the rug.

i appreciate the links! although i have read most of it before! i do agree that yes some people can become dependant on them. but a lot of cases are used to help someone through a tough couple years or a period of time! painkillers are addictive too, are you saying people undergoing medical operations will always have negetive effects from these drugs as well?? SSRI's are used to help people until they are strong enough to work on things themselves.....quite like a wound! yes there are negetive cases but you can't argue the fact that it has worked for others worldwide!

[esoter1c]

http://www.thedoctorslounge.net/phar...sants_suicide/

There was an episode of Oprah where 6 different soccer moms from all over America were otal soccer moms had a few blue mondays, doc prescribed a-d's.

They all killed themselves.

Seratonin buildup can lead to psychotic rage.

I can't belive 75% of teenage girls in America are on some form of A-D's.

I'm not sayin they don't work and help some.

I'm sayin' they do more harm than good on an overall scale.

I think Pharma Corps are makin TRILLIONS off of peoples natural emotions.

Most people need to quit fuckin whining and deal with life.

Life is shit, if you can deal, you'll be happier than anyone.

People who do have imbalances though I know need A-D's.

But for all these lil girls who have a few bad days and the docs give em pills.

That's really not right, I think thats the majority of cases.

[Genotype]

I am so happy!

I am going to smoke a big fat joint, and go to work.

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by Genotype

I am so happy!

I am going to smoke a big fat joint, and go to work.

bahahaha! i wish!

and where do you get this 75% of teenage girls in north america number from???? that sounds awefully ridiculous!

*edit* i don't completely understand the link between SSRI's and suicide but i do know someone that has similar effects from taking such drugs. but i also know 3 people that feel it has saved their life! of course there's side effects to these drugs...........like all prescriptions!

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by TrixX

bahahaha! i wish!

and where do you get this 75% of teenage girls in north america number from???? that sounds awefully ridiculous!

Not North America, America....CNN.

Now children as young as 4 can be prescribe A-D's.

It's Money.

[esoter1c]

look @ the ash on that Joint !
It's pure black = pure nutrient !
Fuckin' noobs !

Way to smoke schwagg you stupid bitches !

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by TrixX

i appreciate the links! although i have read most of it before! i do agree that yes some people can become dependant on them. but a lot of cases are used to help someone through a tough couple years or a period of time! painkillers are addictive too, are you saying people undergoing medical operations will always have negetive effects from these drugs as well?? SSRI's are used to help people until they are strong enough to work on things themselves.....quite like a wound! yes there are negetive cases but you can't argue the fact that it has worked for others worldwide!

ssri's and painkillers are a totally different ballgame.... not going there

SSRI's only work for a little while before the dosage needs to be upped. Since those drugs cannot be used for much longer than a year or so safely, patients will inevitably have to come off of them or risk devastating their own health further. The withdrawal effects can be worse than the initial problems in the first place, leaving patients with a choice to deal with it, or try other medications (which they probably will opt for if they are very bad off). This just starts a cycle of drug use ( legal or not, drugs are drugs) and very possibly dependence that will only compound the problems further.

I dont doubt that these drugs may help some people. Some people have serious serious problems/issues and a legal drug induced escape route may be the only way for some.

On the other hand, you mentioned somebody might be going through a rough time so they start taking antidepressants? Depending on what your idea of a rough time is, thats probably not a good reason to get into that scene. Rough times pass, there are ways to deal with that kind of depression without the use of drugs.

[esoter1c]

40% of those given an A-D placebo feel better.

The healing power of the mind is more powerful.

Positive affirmations have been proven to increase health in all areas.

I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggonit, people like me.

[PsyTrance4Life]

ya my mood are always happy when im stoned

it goes away the next day i think

so it's only temporary

let me go take my "anti-depressant" now

[DefJef]

"The Journal of Clinical Investigation study showed rats given a cannabinoid were less anxious and less depressed."

Reminds me of the guy with the blue rat I saw at a party last year........ that was in fact a stoned blue rat. It laid there sprawled across his hands.

random!