Go Back   FormKaos: Board > General Discussion > Coffee Lounge > The Chronical
FAQ Community Arcade Today's Posts Search

The Chronical Chill out, spark a jay, and enter the chronical.

Reply
 
LinkBack Topic Tools Rate Topic
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Oct 27, 05
tellin it like it is
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
ja_raul is an unknown quantity at this point
marijuana smoke not linked to cancer

now one less thing to worry about in life, if you worried about it at all...

Quote:
NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Although both marijuana and tobacco smoke are packed with cancer-causing chemicals, other qualities of marijuana seem to keep it from promoting lung cancer, according to a new report.


The difference rests in the often opposing actions of the nicotine in tobacco and the active ingredient, THC, in marijuana, says Dr. Robert Melamede of the University of Colorado in Colorado Springs.

He reviewed the scientific evidence supporting this contention in a recent issue of Harm Reduction Journal.

Whereas nicotine has several effects that promote lung and other types of cancer, THC acts in ways that counter the cancer-causing chemicals in marijuana smoke, Melamede explained in an interview with Reuters Health.

"THC turns down the carcinogenic potential," he said.

For example, lab research indicates that nicotine activates a body enzyme that converts certain chemicals in both tobacco and marijuana smoke into cancer-promoting form. In contrast, studies in mice suggest that THC blocks this enzyme activity.

Another key difference, Melamede said, is in the immune system effects of tobacco and marijuana. Smoke sends irritants into the respiratory system that trigger an immune-regulated inflammatory response, which involves the generation of potentially cell-damaging substances called free radicals. These particles are believed to contribute to a range of diseases, including cancer.

But cannabinoids -- both those found in marijuana and the versions found naturally in the body -- have been shown to dial down this inflammatory response, Melamede explained.

Another difference between tobacco and marijuana smoking, he said, has to do with cells that line the respiratory tract. While these cells have receptors that act as docks for nicotine, similar receptors for THC and other cannabinoids have not been found.

Nicotine, Melamede said, appears to keep these cells from committing "suicide" when they are genetically damaged, by smoking, for instance. When such cells do not kill themselves off, they are free to progress into tumors.

THC, however, does not appear to act this way in the respiratory tract -- though, in the brain, where there are cannabinoid receptors, it may have the beneficial effect of protecting cells from death when they are damaged from an injury or stroke, according to Melamede.

All of this, he said, fits in with population studies that have failed to link marijuana smoking with a higher risk of lung cancer -- though there is evidence that pot users have more respiratory problems, such as chronic cough and frequent respiratory infections.

If marijuana does not promote lung cancer, that could factor into the ongoing debate over so-called medical marijuana. Melamede said he believes "marijuana has loads of medicinal value," for everything from multiple sclerosis, to the chronic pain of arthritis, to nausea caused by cancer treatment.

U.S. government officials, however, maintain that the evidence for medical marijuana is not there. Ten states allow people to use marijuana with a doctor's prescription, but the Supreme Court has ruled that federal law trumps state law.
link to story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051026/...BhBHNlYwM5NjQ-

and im sure that this isnt breaking news as well, but its nice to have another report confirming the false link of marijuana smoking to lung cancer
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Oct 28, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light-evil-duerr- is a glorious beacon of light
thats good!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Oct 29, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Goat has a spectacular aura aboutGoat has a spectacular aura about
When was the last time you heard of someone going psychotic from nicotine though.
Or increasing your chances of going completely skitzo through nicotine?
Or causing paranoia through nicotine use?
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Oct 29, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
diaphorrhoea is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
When was the last time you heard of someone going psychotic from nicotine though.
Or increasing your chances of going completely skitzo through nicotine?
Or causing paranoia through nicotine use?
Marijuana won't cause you any illnesses that weren't already latent in your psyche. What the hell have you been reading? And how many people go psychotic from marijuana use? I'll bet way fewer than go psychotic from too much coffee.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Oct 29, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Goat has a spectacular aura aboutGoat has a spectacular aura about
Go look up drug information in the AHFS (American Hospital Formulary Service).
While you're at it, let me know what you find on ebombs, cocaine, and speed.

Scarry shit.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Oct 30, 05
ebbomega's Avatar
1up motherfucker
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
ebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to all
^^ Re-iterating what was said about already-latently-present psychological issues.

I still use weed to help calm my schizophrenia/paranoia.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Oct 30, 05
Wayne P
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Toxxin Ephekt is an unknown quantity at this point
Ahhhhh......The chronic....It will be the death of me.....actually acording to this report....it aint!!! hahaha
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Oct 31, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
diaphorrhoea is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
Go look up drug information in the AHFS (American Hospital Formulary Service).
Because I feel I am already quite well informed, and have an automatic distrust of "medical facts" that fly in the face of all real-world evidence. Why don't you back up your own argument?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Oct 31, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Goat has a spectacular aura aboutGoat has a spectacular aura about
I have the book in front of me. It's black/red and half a foot thick. It's your life to live, not mine. If you don't believe me go google it or get your hands on a copy. It's no job of mine to tell people how to live their lives.
Marijuana isn't the devil and ya, marijuana is alright and I'm sure it has some positive medicinal effects.Don't go around saying it's some sort of miracle drug it's not because you like to go get high though.

respect.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Oct 31, 05
induce hypnotic psytrance
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Genotype is an unknown quantity at this point
pot causes feelings of well-being.
I feel like I could smoke a big fat joint right about now.
And I still want that damn pot icon!
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Nov 03, 05
"Indubitably!"
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
FlorpIncarnate is an unknown quantity at this point
The US supreme court ruled that federal law trumps state law?

That's fucking bullshit on so many levels.

Fuck federal rules. If a group of people vote to have some law in their community what right do other communities have to force their law on them? Total immoral crap.

Yet another instance of the lack of separation between church and state...
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Nov 03, 05
psy-trance addict
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
PsyTrance4Life is an unknown quantity at this point
weed grows naturally throughout the world
it was used medically back in the days as "herb"

i think it only causes cancer to your lung or throat (from too much smoke)
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Nov 04, 05
tellin it like it is
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
ja_raul is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by Etard
weed grows naturally throughout the world
it was used medically back in the days as "herb"

i think it only causes cancer to your lung or throat (from too much smoke)
well, thank you for this information
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Nov 04, 05
BWAM!
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Ryan Ross will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goat
I have the book in front of me. It's black/red and half a foot thick. It's your life to live, not mine. If you don't believe me go google it or get your hands on a copy. It's no job of mine to tell people how to live their lives.
Marijuana isn't the devil and ya, marijuana is alright and I'm sure it has some positive medicinal effects.Don't go around saying it's some sort of miracle drug it's not because you like to go get high though.

respect.
What are those cases saying? Id like to know a little more about that... Its one thing to say that someone who comes to a hospital with psychological symptoms may have smoked pot at some point prior, and its another to suggest a causal link. Ive done alot of research on this topic as well as taken a psychophamachology class and the overwhelming conclusion is that marijuana does not induce any serious psychological disorders.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Nov 04, 05
semblence within chaos.
 
Join Date: May 2003
decypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlorpIncarnate
The US supreme court ruled that federal law trumps state law?

That's fucking bullshit on so many levels.

Fuck federal rules. If a group of people vote to have some law in their community what right do other communities have to force their law on them? Total immoral crap.
.
Thats nothing, what about Bush's 7 billion or so dollar Bird flu program being devolved to the state level. How is Mississippi going to fit that bill?
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old Nov 04, 05
ebbomega's Avatar
1up motherfucker
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
ebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to allebbomega is a name known to all
^^ Hah. Or Louisiana.

GEORGE BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT SICK PEOPLE!
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old Nov 05, 05
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Goat has a spectacular aura aboutGoat has a spectacular aura about
Quote:
What are those cases saying? Id like to know a little more about that... Its one thing to say that someone who comes to a hospital with psychological symptoms may have smoked pot at some point prior, and its another to suggest a causal link. Ive done alot of research on this topic as well as taken a psychophamachology class and the overwhelming conclusion is that marijuana does not induce any serious psychological disorders.
give me a couple days.

Last edited by Goat; Nov 05, 05 at 12:56 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:22 AM.


Forum software by vBulletin
Circa 2000 FNK.CA