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Old Mar 23, 06
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Originally Posted by decypher
Well thats why i said in my interpretation. When i'm on mushrooms i feel really uncomfortable unless i'm in natural surroundings. The mechanical aspect of being at a rave or at some party would just feed bad emotions into the experience. When i do mushrooms it's a time to tap into the lifestream of the planet and expand my mind. I need to focus my mind power.
What you need to learn is the meme:

That's just the drugs.

Mush (and acid, similarly) is like the tree in Empire Strikes Back...

"What's in there?"
"Only what you bring with you."
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Old Mar 23, 06
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I always knew yoda was a battery head.
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Old Mar 23, 06
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What you need to learn is the meme:

That's just the drugs.

Mush (and acid, similarly) is like the tree in Empire Strikes Back...

"What's in there?"
"Only what you bring with you."
Nope, i view it as a catalyst for opening doors in my mind and the revelations i obtain as something i take with me out of the experience. That is why i prefer to do it in solitude. I'm not just reiterating norms that have been set for these types of drugs. Mushrooms are in a special category aside from party/fake drugs such mdma/speed/coke which are more ego orientated in my mind. They force you into feeling a certain way. Self-gratification.

With mushrooms they are a part of egoless drugs where it is my thoughts and emotions which guide the direction and significance of the trip. Having people around me that i do not like or being in a mechanical environment will conjure negative emotions which therefore take the trip into uncomfortable territory.

I know this to be true because i used to do them recreationally at parties and i came to an apex of understanding, a true epiphany that i have never experienced before or after that point. This happened in outdoor surroundings in seclusion. A great experience that i could have learned a lot from. I ignored this and kept partying with them until each trip became progressively worse until i ended up having an epiphany at the oppisite end of the spectrum, liking peering into hell itself. This experience was coupled with Tom Araya asking the audience at GM place if we "wanted to die" approximately 10 seconds after i turned to my completely sober friend and said "i think i'm dieing." After that, i never questioned the unequivocal link between my mind and the reality which accomodates it and subsequently have had nothing but rewarding and profound experiences.
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dude... you did mushrooms at a Slayer concert! I don't know if I'd even dare that. No wonder you don't like doing them around people. I'd be horrified if I were anywhere near a pit at a Slayer concert, let alone hearing that music blared live. Wow.
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Old Mar 23, 06
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lol all was fine during soulfly. Actually it was amazing. I was in a seat though so it wasen't that bad. Then waiting for Slayer to come on, all the negative energy of watching skinheads fighting in the pit kinda creeped me out. Then it all went dark and this neon blood banner is all like "God hates us allllll." The backdrop was like the hallway of an ancient renaissance museum that was 3d and you could get lost staring down the hallway. Complete with ass pounding guitar shreds and a 3d laser devil. It was pretty sweet but way too intense. Anyways, i had these feelings of dread just hanging out with friends watching a movie on mushrooms many times before this concert. It all just exploded at that concert plus the fact that Tom araya asked if i wanted to die. My buddy was completely sober and looked at me after it happened and couldn't understand either. Was powerful
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Now that I think about it.. there's a strong chance I would enjoy that bad trip so much. It reminds me of the time I told my buddy I wanted to see a Cannibal Corpse show on bad acid just to scare the hell out of myself.

You weren't watching Vincent Price movies, by chance, were you? Those movies scare the hell out of me on any drug.
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Old Mar 24, 06
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For anybody who doesn't think that mushrooms belong at raves

Since that experience I have:
1) Moved out of my parents' basement
2) Gotten a job in my industry of choice as opposed to working retail
3) Moved back to Vancouver, which I had been trying to do for a year by the time I made that post
4) Gotten a wicked awesome girlfriend whom I love
5) In general ended a 3-year downward slide into depression, found my motivation in life and have been much much happier ever since.
Gawd damn, dude. Nice list.
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Old Mar 24, 06
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For the record, I'm doing mush this evening and watching The Wizard of Oz, possibly some cheesy ass gore movie too...

Still my favourite drug.

I understand what you say about the synthetic vs. mush drugs to a point, decypher, but I still say that mush is all about how much you let it control you. I don't do mush to get right fucked out of my tree anymore... in fact it's pretty much gotten to the point that if I do do that amount of mush I end up just passing out.

I did mush many times at various amounts in settings you describe, but nothing was as enlightening as being lost in a crowd of nobodies... strips human behaviour down to its bare purposes... Clubbing on mushrooms gave me a similar experience. Yeah, you can do a lot of introspection, but the real magic is shown when you are watching humans interact at a third-party level. Just watching conversations and observing behaviour amongst many many people taught me so much of why people do the fucked up thing that they do.

But, you know, do what you want. But I think you're limiting yourself by only allowing a certain drug in a certain setting. Leary was all about that, and it's why I don't dig him so much. Kesey was all about getting a group together and getting fucked up in public and just experimenting with the world around you, and that makes a lot more sense. Thompson took it one step further and got fucked up amidst a bunch of sober people, which most definately will lead to No-Feelings all over to the place (almost to the point of desensitization).

Anyways, just my thoughts.
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Old Mar 24, 06
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you can get them for $2.00 a pill

some are good some are bad, what are they cutting them with ?
they are stamped with a exclamation mark ?

i was told they do contain heroin / jibb-speed... just how much mdma do you think there putting in them nowadays for less than $2.00 a pill ???
are u buying one at a time for $2? or a bunch? i have been buying E for $2-3 in batches of 100. if i were to buy one pill, i think i've paid $5-10. the $2 E is all relatively the same, only batch i didnt like was green apples (double press). best E was a small lil yellow anchor (from holland)!

just becuz E costs alot doesnt mean that its gonna be the shiznik! getting high is about the mood, environment, vibe, music, etc. if i had a good day and brought a hottie with me to the party that night, im gonna have a fucken awesome high =)
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ebbomega i know what you mean about that stuff. I don't do it in complete solitude. I only do it about once a year. Last time was in the summer with 2 of my best friends. We spent the day and evening on a secluded beach, danced on rocks, observed the water ecosystems, sunset, moonrise. It was amazing.
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Old Dec 08, 06
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I get my e for 2.50 in batches of 20 or more.. i know its probably not the best stuff but my dealer has different stuff every week.

Some stuff costs more and i usually pick some of that up.

My friends and i usually all try a pill together, we then rate it on things like racyness, euphoria, chatiness, ect to try and disipher how bad or good the pill is.. we cant be totally accurate but we dont buy shitty pills if we can avoid it... so far ive found two pills to be both really good..

in my experience so far i havnt come across a pill that caused an addiction to me, ive always been able to stop at will, or limit the amount of E i do .. currently i have a limit of no more then 1 night of poping ever 2 weeks, preferably no more then 1 pill but i make exceptions for raves.

Anyways yeah i dont know how to distinguish Meth completely as ive never tried it directly and never plan too. But i do comapare to the effects of pure mmda off of a trustworthy friend of mine.
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Old Dec 08, 06
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I get my e for 2.50 in batches of 20 or more.. i know its probably not the best stuff but my dealer has different stuff every week.

Some stuff costs more and i usually pick some of that up.

My friends and i usually all try a pill together, we then rate it on things like racyness, euphoria, chatiness, ect to try and disipher how bad or good the pill is.. we cant be totally accurate but we dont buy shitty pills if we can avoid it... so far ive found two pills to be both really good..

in my experience so far i havnt come across a pill that caused an addiction to me, ive always been able to stop at will, or limit the amount of E i do .. currently i have a limit of no more then 1 night of poping ever 2 weeks, preferably no more then 1 pill but i make exceptions for raves.

Anyways yeah i dont know how to distinguish Meth completely as ive never tried it directly and never plan too. But i do comapare to the effects of pure mmda off of a trustworthy friend of mine.
oh my god thats horrible. dont do that, thats retarted. learn how to distinguish pills by looking at them, feeling them, colors, spots. dont try them! each pill can be different even tho if made in the same batch.

and you cant get physically addicted to ecstacy, its all psycological.

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Old Dec 08, 06
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for something that is made in huge batches, from store bought chemicals, in some dudes basement, who learned how to make it from a friend...

it almost seems ridiculous to sell that crap for $10/cap, but people will pay it...the little patterned baggies they come in are probably costing them more than actually making the drug.

E should cost 2$, that would be the fair, non-jacked up price for filling your body up with chemical and poision.

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oh my god thats horrible. dont do that, thats retarted. learn how to distinguish pills by looking at them, feeling them, colors, spots.
That is probably the most uninformed piece of advice I think I've ever seen.
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Old Dec 08, 06
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I hope nabs' advice was an early April Fool's joke.
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Old Dec 09, 06
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oh my god thats horrible. dont do that, thats retarted. learn how to distinguish pills by looking at them, feeling them, colors, spots. dont try them! each pill can be different even tho if made in the same batch.
Yeah dood that is pretty bad advice, how they look and feel means nothing. We dont try any random pill though. We make selections based on a few other things as well.

And too be honest. Besides testing it.. the only wqay to really determine a pills content is to try it (If youve done pure E before and know the effects)
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Old Dec 20, 06
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so true... anyways why would anyone do a drug that they didnt know quite was was in it??? in my opinion e is a horible drug... just say no and smoke some blunts... thats the only way to go ...
or if you want to feel awake and messed up drink reb bull and vodka... thats what i do.
Everybody who does E doesn't quite know what's in it. The only reliable way to get E that's good-n-pure is to have a large bag of powder and make your own gelcaps. I haven't found a pure presstab in well over 5 years.

"Ecstasy" is a common term for a cocktail mix of different stimulants and hallucinogens, commonly containing MDMA and other stimulants such as Crystal Methamphetamine. "Pure E" (which 90% of the time, if someone is telling you that's what it is, they're lying) refers to MDMA, but there are plenty other E chemicals available: MDA, Crystal Meth, PCP, 2-CB, LSD, etc.

If people are selling $2 pills in Chilliwack it's like mostly crystal meth, as it's very cheap to produce and has similar effects to MDMA (less hallucinatory, more stimulant, HIGH psychological addiction). I doubt you'll find $2 pills of MDMA, because of basic economics:

MDMA usually goes for about $60/gram, a pill contains about 100mg (1/10th of a gram). If a dealer has $60/gram but is selling them at $2/pill, they're losing aout $40/gram. So it's highly doubtful if they're being sold at anything lower than $10/pill that your pill is in fact pure.

You can never know 100% what's in a pill, but it's best to educate yourself before making the decision to try it. Not to mention knowing about drugs your friends are taking also lets you deal with it if problems arise. I highly recommend checking out the erowid links people are posting if you have any questions about "Rave" drugs, as they're more reliable than anything your friends are bound to tell you.
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oh my god thats horrible. dont do that, thats retarted. learn how to distinguish pills by looking at them, feeling them, colors, spots. dont try them! each pill can be different even tho if made in the same batch.
JESUS CHRIST NABS

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and you cant get physically addicted to ecstacy, its all psycological.
True, but don't downplay the effect of psychological addiction. Crystal Methamphetamine is one of the most addictive chemicals on the face of the earth despite a lack of physical dependence. Plus sometimes pills will be cut with PCP, Cocaine, or GHB, all of which can cause a physical dependence.
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Old Dec 20, 06
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mystery is fun!

it's all about the 'fun bag'

dude what's in that?


just do it.


okay.



woah man that was not a good idea.


but it was fun.



the fun bag.
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Old Dec 20, 06
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you can get them for $2.00 a pill

some are good some are bad, what are they cutting them with ?
they are stamped with a exclamation mark ?

i was told they do contain heroin / jibb-speed... just how much mdma do you think there putting in them nowadays for less than $2.00 a pill ???
they are probably all jib and filler, jib is cheap, really really really cheap.
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Old Dec 20, 06
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What you need to learn is the meme:

That's just the drugs.

Mush (and acid, similarly) is like the tree in Empire Strikes Back...

"What's in there?"
"Only what you bring with you."
fuck that, acid and mush are totally different, i mean i know alot of a types and normally anxious people have serious problems with mush because it compounds the introspection and anxiety exponentially.

my experiences with acid 5 -meo dipt and MDA have never been bad or anxiety inducing trips, those drugs allow you to control your experience in a way i find impossible with mush or even e.

when i did acid the costant though it my head was
'wow, im really fucked up, this is funnier then hell, holy shit look at that purple tree, wow i can really understand why hippies love this shit.'
mush was like
'fuck, im gonna kill that fuck, lookin at me, fuck, no wait fuck, im trippin balls, fuck i hate this shit, fuck i want this to end, god damn fuck its been three hours, when will i be sober, fuck, i like pho, fuck the damn nammer resturant is closed, fuck, all these fuckin boxes are swillering around me, i fuckin hate those boxes, fuck, when am i gonna be sober? i hate this shit im a dumb fuck for eating it, fuck, that fucker is still fuckin aorund im gonna fuck him up.'

well i dont really know what this thread proves other then the fact ive done way too many drugs and that i swear often.
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^ I had more or less the opposite reactions than you. With mush I was all happy and trippin, but on acid I was all agro and everything was creepy (for years I couldn't stand glowing red- even threw away all my alarm clocks).
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