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Old Oct 03, 06
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alright 90% of top40 sucks ass.
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contrary to popular belief, you *can* actually mix top40 and it's actually pretty hard to do well.

Unlike basically all elecotronic music out there, a lot of it is not tailor made to mix and you're going to be dealing with bpms ranging from 50 bpm to 180 and some of the tracks will be unquantized live tracks and a lot of the tracks will have extra bars and unorthodox structures that your average 4/4 8-bar pattern house/dnb/breaks/trance will not have.

However, in line with popular belief, you don't really *need* to mix it to make people happy although mixing it will at least give you - the dj - something to do for 3 hours in between drunken club sluts demanding that you play Justin Timberlake for the 5th time that night.
I did Top 40 up north.. I found the best way to mix it is to leave your crossfader and bpm settings alone and just blend with volume controls. I didn't think about it at first, and I started beatmatching tracks and made an effort to keep the beat completely continuous.. and it actually got me complaints because I was "fucking up their favourite songs."

Also.. if you're doing Top 40. . . I suggest you drink a bit on shift.. or a lot.. so that you can actually enjoy your job.
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Old Oct 03, 06
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the only reason why top40 instrumentals would be any good is because the melody is usually intelligently written as a 4 bar hook that sticks in your head easily. But its mostly rap & r&b that use this method.
Infact alot of the stuff over the last 3 years all sounds the same to me. Not only do the same patches appear, but some of the same melodies, WITH the same rhythmic pattern are used.
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Old Oct 03, 06
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for a lot of it, the production is top notch (i.e. neptunes, timbaland etc.).

Honestly, a lot of it is repetitive but you can use them in blends with acapellas, you can rock doubles and mix the vocal into the instrumental so you can mix to another track with a longer blend... In 2x4 situations, me and wood often line up 3 or 4 instrumentals and mix them under an acapella...

All of these are basic hiphop techniques but since a lot of top40 is mainstream rap anyway it all applies.

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I did Top 40 up north.. I found the best way to mix it is to leave your crossfader and bpm settings alone and just blend with volume controls. I didn't think about it at first, and I started beatmatching tracks and made an effort to keep the beat completely continuous.. and it actually got me complaints because I was "fucking up their favourite songs."
I could tell you about the top40 gig i got fired from cause i "mixed too much" but yea, going overboard with the blends can piss off the uninitiated ("just play the song!"). Still, i think the crowds up north are going to be a little less open minded than city folk here. But yea, a good chunk of top40 DJs suck and don't mix (and don't need to), but the ones that do are pretty good.

Some of the best DJs technique-wise i've seen are top40/hiphop djs playing music I can't stand. But again, that just goes to show how much harder it is being a top40 dj cause the good ones can mix seamlessly, between many genres and bpm, while *actually mixing* and still impress a cynical mix dj like myself with their skills and keep the crowd going. Granted, most of these guys tend to be hiphop djs first and foremost...
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Old Oct 03, 06
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I'm not a fan of top40 either but I gotta do what I gotta do - I take any gig that comes my way, regardless of the music (unless it's country and polka). Some of the currently popular top40 tunes have some decent beats I would have to admit and the accapellas from them can be used in electronic productions.

Thx for all the mixing/top40 spinning tips and stuff - learning a lot here.
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Old Oct 03, 06
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lol . wutever happened to just practicing ..

its not much different from mixing the 120 + stuff..

little more stressful to catch on to but like anything u work at -- u will get better.

btw drunk chicks & booze makes spinning that shiT 10 times better/
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