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Old Sep 13, 06
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The school shootings in Montreal....

Has anybody else been watching/listening to the news.
I just started and couldnt believe my eyes.
Apparently 4 dead (said on the news)(one may have shot himself) and up to 16 injured :(


edit: that article says different, its all a confusion

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http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...l-witness.html
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Old Sep 13, 06
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whoa.... colombine in canada... thats scary
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Old Sep 13, 06
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why is it scary?

people should stop comparing countries and saying 'it could never happen here'

it's just as easy to get a gun in canada as it is in usa, and some canadian kids out there have the capability to do horrible things, just like american kids.
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Old Sep 13, 06
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The confrence has said that one suspect has died, killed after the police came in.
8 people are in critical condition in Montreal Genneral with a total of 4 patients. I believe there are other patients at other hospitals.
I completely agree with Carrie this happens everywhere its just so sick that someone could wake up in the morning and decide to do this.
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I don't know what goes on in kids head these days that would make them dislike/hate someone (or many ppl) to get up and decide to hurt them like this.

this doesn't just hurt the ppl that got shot, it hurts their friends and families and even the shooters friends and families and everyday ppl like you or me
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Old Sep 13, 06
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I don't know what goes on in kids head these days that would make them dislike/hate someone (or many ppl) to get up and decide to hurt them like this.

this doesn't just hurt the ppl that got shot, it hurts their friends and families and even the shooters friends and families and everyday ppl like you or me
It's mostly hindered from kids getting made fun of at school. Also, family backgrounds and how they were raised might have something to do with it. People don't realize how mean kids are these days. Not even just kids, but teenagers and even grown adults. That's why everyone should really treat others how they would want to be treated b/c you really never know how they will deal with it.
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Old Sep 13, 06
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this doesn't just hurt the ppl that got shot, it hurts their friends and families and even the shooters friends and families and everyday ppl like you or me



Quoted for truth. Sigh...
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Old Sep 13, 06
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I got made fun of all throughout elementary school and highschool. My home life wasn't all that great either.

and I didn't feel that hurting others like that would make my life any better
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I got made fun of all throughout elementary school and highschool. My home life wasn't all that great either.

and I didn't feel that hurting others like that would make my life any better
That's you though. Everyone deals with things in their own way. Some ppl don't have an out in any way shape or form. Taking it out on others in a physical matter is the only way for some ppl. Or at least they think so.

I got made fun of too. And many times I wanted to just kick the shit out them. It's makes you feel better just thinking about it but actually doing it is a step that I wasn't willing to make. Some ppl don't have anything holding them back. Hence why it results in this :(
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it's sad to think that some kids feel that there is no way out sometimes
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Old Sep 13, 06
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my girlfriend bianca jus told me that she didnt have class 2day..
but her friends did and they were standing beside people that were getting shot
one of her gf's got shot.. she was trapped in one of the classroom's.. but she is alive and in the hospital right now..

fuck man.. i need to hear from my other friends see if they're safe.
:(
my old school was right near dawson :(
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I got made fun of all throughout elementary school and highschool. My home life wasn't all that great either.

and I didn't feel that hurting others like that would make my life any better

thats u..
have u ever had someone threaten to kill u? say they kno where u live..
follow u home?

when i lived in Montreal i had the worst time in school there..
people are HARSH out there.. especially bullying..

so you can't really compare ur experience to whatever these people went thru..
maybe they had a really tough time.. maybe they didnt.. im not making excuses..
u jus sometimes gotta put urselves in their shoes..

i was having a tough time in Montreal.. it was my first yr at a new school.. it was also the same yr columbine happened.. everyone that bugged me stopped.. becuz they bugged me so bad that after columbine happened they kne that i couldve done the same.

some people have mental illness'.. that they themselves dunno about..
im only finding out things bout myself now..

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thats u..
have u ever had someone threaten to kill u? say they kno where u live..
follow u home?

when i lived in Montreal i had the worst time in school there..
people are HARSH out there.. especially bullying..

so you can't really compare ur experience to whatever these people went thru..
maybe they had a really tough time.. maybe they didnt.. im not making excuses..
u jus sometimes gotta put urselves in their shoes..

i was having a tough time in Montreal.. it was my first yr at a new school.. it was also the same yr columbine happened.. everyone that bugged me stopped.. becuz they bugged me so bad that after columbine happened they kne that i couldve done the same.

some people have mental illness'.. that they themselves dunno about..
im only finding out things bout myself now..

I have never had someone threaten to kill me. It's hard to believe that you have, maybe because it's just so horrible.

I'm not trying to compare me to them, I'm trying to understand why they are how they are. I know I've had my problems growing up, just wondering what problems they had and why they couldn't deal with it in a non violent way.
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^^^ well said hun! I totally hear you on that <3

Edited for Gia :)
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the best thing we can do, is talk about whats going on and how we as a society can change the way we are so that kids that are going through their problems don't have to feel like hurting someone else is the answer.
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I got made fun of all throughout elementary school and highschool. My home life wasn't all that great either.

and I didn't feel that hurting others like that would make my life any better
Ditto.. elementary school mostly- it was really bad. :(
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Old Sep 13, 06
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thats scary, I havent even turned on the tv yet today, going now
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sad.........
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Old Sep 13, 06
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Just got home and got off the phone with my mother.... My cousin's Zara and John along with John's GF Jennifer all attend Dawson College and were at the location of the shooting... I'm greatful to know that they are all doing fine... None of them are hurt however Zara is a little emotional distraught considering this is her first year of college. John knows of 4 of the people who got shot... They all heard the shots go off and bolted out of the door... Thankfully they were in locations in the building that they were able to exit the facility. Since the whole place is taped off they walked over to my grandma's place which is on the other side of downtown montreal.
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Old Sep 13, 06
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I have never had someone threaten to kill me. It's hard to believe that you have, maybe because it's just so horrible.

I'm not trying to compare me to them, I'm trying to understand why they are how they are. I know I've had my problems growing up, just wondering what problems they had and why they couldn't deal with it in a non violent way.

its hard to believe.. but it happened.. and it still happens to other people.

talking about it on a raver forum isnt gonna change it, or make it better.

there's nothing anyone can do about people getting picked on. it happens.
and there is always ONE day that some kid gets fed up of the abuse.

maybe these people didnt get picked on.. maybe they jus didnt get a good mark.. u never kno.

but people are fucked in the head. the only way u can make it better is if u do a mental health check on every student in this country..
and the people that have "issue's" will be placed in a diff school & their problem will be controlled..

now THATS a solution.

but it wont happen.. and any other solution wont work.. so lets not discuss this anymore.. cuz there is nothing u guys can do about it.
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that is some scary stuff right there..

Sure it can happen everywhere, but there are some places that you are supposed to feel safe, and a school would be one of them. This doesnt happen very often, but there is a chance it could at any time, all it takes is one mentally ill person that has a grudge.. too bad those poor people got in the middle of his rampage and were killed..
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it's just as easy to get a gun in canada as it is in usa
Not true.
Is it legal to carry around a loaded gun in Canada? No.
Way more Americans have loaded weapons in their homes than Canadians. In fact, I do believe that in Canada if you own a gun it is not allowed to be loaded in your home and must be stored in a locked cabinet. The laws are not the same in the states, which is why it's much easier for American kids to have access to guns.

I do agree though that it's possible anywhere, just more probable where it's easier for kids to get ahold of guns.
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Old Sep 13, 06
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just because the laws are different, or something isn't legal doesn't mean it's not possible to get a gun in Canada.

what about all the club shooting in Vancouver? are any of those people legal gun owners? NO. So they must have gotten a gun illegally... probably the same way drugs get into our country.

ps there are a lot of shotgun owners in deer country!

guns get stolen, guns get smuggled.
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