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Canucks suck.

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chalk up another loss for the casucks. 1 fluky goal gives DET the 2nd goal, then another fluky one goes in to win it. what else is new?
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...are you getting off the wagon???
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chalk up another loss for the casucks. 1 fluky goal gives DET the 2nd goal, then another fluky one goes in to win it. what else is new?
Flukey or not BULIS HAS GOT TO GO!!!

Guy is making like 1.5 million and has done absolutely nothing.

Difference between him and kessler aside from age and their salaries is.

Kessler didn't really have much say on the 1.9 million. It was bobby clarke than nonis that signed him for 1.9.

Bulis is different he's just the regular player who is suppose to be producing at least 20 goals this season and all he's done is cost us goals. He's not scoring goals.

Fuck he better be benched agaain next game.
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I'll never get off the wagon but sometimes my posts may seem like it cause I'll be so objective when it comes to the Canucks.

I'll make posts ripping them apart, especially when it comes to singling players out.
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Bulis and his goalie interference cost us the game.

Luongo should not have let in that 3 rd goal.

Cooke/Morrison should have been traded.

We're so fucked.

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would have, should have, could have. fuck that noise.

bulis did not cost us that game. goal most likely would not have happened without the interference. also bert did this countless times and never got ripped for it. chill the fuck out.

i got home in time to watch the third period, and besides the shorthanded goal i think it's the best the canucks have played all season. everyone was shooting, cycles were good but kept to a minimum and their hustle was phenominal.

sure we have a bunch of people who aren't where they should be, but as a team we're under achieving. defence was horrible on that shorthanded break and luongo definitely should have had it.
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would have, should have, could have. fuck that noise.

bulis did not cost us that game. goal most likely would not have happened without the interference. also bert did this countless times and never got ripped for it. chill the fuck out.

i got home in time to watch the third period, and besides the shorthanded goal i think it's the best the canucks have played all season. everyone was shooting, cycles were good but kept to a minimum and their hustle was phenominal.

sure we have a bunch of people who aren't where they should be, but as a team we're under achieving. defence was horrible on that shorthanded break and luongo definitely should have had it.
I'm not saying that. I'm saying Bulis has done nothing to show he even deserves a spot on this team. Especially making 1.5 or whatever million.

Do you honestly believe he has any worth to this team? Yea Defensively we are doing horribly. Offensively we shouldn't be doing as bad though. Especially when all our scoring is coming from practically 3 players + the odd one other
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Bulis and his goalie interference cost us the game.
i was talking about this statement, not your kenji =P

i dont think bulis is worth what we paid for him, but what the hell can we do about it.

no one is going to take mo/kes/bulis without someone else.
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i was talking about this statement, not your kenji =P

i dont think bulis is worth what we paid for him, but what the hell can we do about it.

no one is going to take mo/kes/bulis without someone else.
Ya I thought so mate but wasn't complely sure.

Morrison had some worth 3 years ago, but thats a long 3 years ago.

Kes/bulis just have inflated salaries.

I heard we weren't doing so well in the game and if we had won it would been considered a steal.
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Flukey or not BULIS HAS GOT TO GO!!!

Guy is making like 1.5 million and has done absolutely nothing.

Difference between him and kessler aside from age and their salaries is.

Kessler didn't really have much say on the 1.9 million. It was bobby clarke than nonis that signed him for 1.9.

Bulis is different he's just the regular player who is suppose to be producing at least 20 goals this season and all he's done is cost us goals. He's not scoring goals.

Fuck he better be benched agaain next game.
*COUGH!* Kenji, Kesler is who cost us more goals through turn overs than Bulis. I think Alain Veigneult has got to go! Canucks were a better organization coached by Crawford..fuck this coach. Players respond DIFFERENTLY to different coaches. Blame the coaches and their so-called "strategies" to win. If anything, Ken Hitchcock it more qualified than this jobbernaut.

Press Release from canucks today, read all about it:
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Canucks Re-Assign Goaltender Dany Sabourin on a Conditioning Assignment
Thu. Nov 16, 2006

...Recall goaltender Wade Flaherty from Moose

Vancouver, B.C. - Vancouver Canucks Senior Vice President and General Manager Dave Nonis announced today that goaltender Dany Sabourin has been re-assigned to the Manitoba Moose of the AHL on a conditioning assignment. Goaltender Wade Flaherty has been recalled from Manitoba.

Sabourin, 26, has played in two games for the Canucks this season with one loss, a Goal-Against Average of 3.23 and a Save-Percentage of .868. The 6-foot-4, 200 lbs. native of Val d’Or, Quebec, was claimed by the Canucks off of waivers from the Pittsburgh Penguins on October 4th.

Flaherty, 38, has posted a record of 4-3-0 with a 2.61 GAA and .896 Save-Percentage in eight games with the Moose this season. The 6-foot, 191 lbs. native of Terrace, BC, has appeared in 120 regular season NHL games, posting a record of 27-56-9.
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*COUGH!* Kenji, Kesler is who cost us more goals through turn overs than Bulis. I think Alain Veigneult has got to go! Canucks were a better organization coached by Crawford..fuck this coach. Players respond DIFFERENTLY to different coaches. Blame the coaches and their so-called "strategies" to win. If anything, Ken Hitchcock it more qualified than this jobbernaut.

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They should have given wade another chance before they sent him down. He's a veteran. I dont like the Nonis + Mignon Canucks so far.

The Burke + Crow Canucks were a better product given there was no Salary cap than
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There is sometimes a reason you spend the extra $$ to get quality. Don't forget that Burke wanted to be here...he was also the sole person responsible for turning the organization around. I consider him one of the most involved and outspoken GM's in the League. How often do you see Nonis criticizing the league or rules or anything??

Furthermore, The Crow turned a team who was sluggishly slow, offensively lacking in scoring goals, defensivley unorganized, and extremely penalty prone (Ruutu), into an actual contender cup contender. The only downfault the organization failed to capitalize on, which lead us to sucking in the playoffs...was acquiring an actual number one goalie.

To tell you the truth, I believe (if the Bertuzzi incident did not happen) that if the canucks signed a better goalie *cough*Salo/Turco/CuJo, rather than cheaping out on praying, hoping and spiritualizing that Cloputier would light the way to the cup, we would have actually been in the finals.

I don't think Veigneault has what it takes at the NHL level. He is treating the canuck players like a bunch of kindergarten kids *now you can go sit in the corner Bulis, and you too Morrison* and it is degrading the canuck player morale. How can they produce like a team when most of the players are being shit on? Why not invest in a motivational speaker like Mr. Robbins to come in a increase positive attitude in the team? Believe me when I say this, but I think Veigneault WILL NOT LAST, and no matter how good of a buddy-buddy relationship he has with NONIS, business is business and so far the canucks business is suffering.

Shuffle the management, not the players. Changing too many players all at once with drastically shift the mind set of actually establishing a team orientation as opposed to individualistic plays. Do we expect Naslund and the Sedin twins to be our only hope??? So far it looks like that is what is happening.

On a side note, I will remind once again that the canucks organization PROMISED Bulis that he will be playing with the twins to prove his offensiveness. So far the organization is not keeping their word, they are not patient, and therefore will pay for it down the road. Even now. Think about it. Bulis was producing more with the twins than with others. He needs to adjust to the western style of play with new players. Don't forget the eastern coference is much different than the western one. Morrison was that way too when we acquired him. By the next season he was a number one centerman.

Take your pick....but this organization is not really organized OR focussed. *R.I.P* (for now)

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i agree..... unless we are happy with bulis playin 5 mins a game on the 4th line, giev him a shot with the sedins again... i think pyatt in front of the net will work if nassy finds his wrist shot again(cuz it fuckin SUCKS right now)

defensively i think we are fine.... having mitchell back is a HUUUUGE help. He is a tank back there and the pressure off Ohlund helps him out a lot. 40 mins a game is too much for anyone in this leage ( unless you are chara or pronger )

With a little more puck luck and more of a killer instinct in front of the net, we'll be ok. Just this rut we are in right now is pretty brutal
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Oh yeah...if i hear one more person that knows shit all about hockey rag on Luongo, i'm gonna snap. Just cuz you watch BCTV and catch highlights on like 2 plays from the whole game, doesn't mean you know how it went...I hate those fans that know dick all about dick all and think they are freakin Scotty Bowmann
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defensively i think we are fine.... having mitchell back is a HUUUUGE help. He is a tank back there and the pressure off Ohlund helps him out a lot. 40 mins a game is too much for anyone in this leage ( unless you are chara or pronger )
Yea especially recently without Salo and Mitchell out was just way too much for for literally one person on defense.

Hopefully we get back some stability on the back end. We should
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i agree..... unless we are happy with bulis playin 5 mins a game on the 4th line, giev him a shot with the sedins again... i think pyatt in front of the net will work if nassy finds his wrist shot again(cuz it fuckin SUCKS right now)

defensively i think we are fine.... having mitchell back is a HUUUUGE help. He is a tank back there and the pressure off Ohlund helps him out a lot. 40 mins a game is too much for anyone in this leage ( unless you are chara or pronger )

With a little more puck luck and more of a killer instinct in front of the net, we'll be ok. Just this rut we are in right now is pretty brutal
I agree with you on Pyatt..he has come around to surprise many viewers..even management. We see him doing all the right things...and guess what?!?! His attitude and confidence is going up and up. Doesn't matter if you put this guy on number one or two line..this guy is doing the job that Bertuzzi used to do: go to the net, get position on your man, and wait for the crease pass.

On the flip side, Bulis is being bullied too much. Do you think he has a positive attitude towards the coach? And vica versa? It is not fun to be in a dog house...but I will tell you this...doing that to a professional athlete who worked hard to get into the NHL is morally wrong. Could be worse, he could have been sent to the juniors.

But that is besides the point. If Bulis needs to score to put his believed numbers up, you have to listen to what the player is asking for. If you don't listen to your players, and not that they are whining about anything, you will see a coach who is selfish and is not a leader.

True leaders listen to the players and work on DEVELOPING their potential. So far, Alain's reverse psychology tactic is not working, and guess what? THE CANUCKS ARE LOSING :mexitoke: A coach not only affects one player, he affects the WHOLE team *remember that*
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Yea especially recently without Salo and Mitchell out was just way too much for for literally one person on defense.

Hopefully we get back some stability on the back end. We should
a solid defense leads allows offensive players to focus on their job..which is to do what? Put shots on net and score some goals
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But that is besides the point. If Bulis needs to score to put his believed numbers up, you have to listen to what the player is asking for. If you don't listen to your players, and not that they are whining about anything, you will see a coach who is selfish and is not a leader.

True leaders listen to the players and work on DEVELOPING their potential. So far, Alain's reverse psychology tactic is not working, and guess what? THE CANUCKS ARE LOSING :mexitoke: A coach not only affects one player, he affects the WHOLE team *remember that*
I dont think its the coaches fault, Alain has done what he can, with what he has. Which is proving to not be very much. He has made sure everyone is responsible defensevly, but you cant teach players a scoring touch, wich no one but Naslund has so far.
Bulis is a tool so far, If your a pro you should be slapped on any line and be able to produce. If the coach benches you then you should come back even hungrier.

PS. Morrison is proving that his former success is a product of Nassy and Bert. He cant do anything now.
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I dont think its the coaches fault, Alain has done what he can, with what he has. Which is proving to not be very much. He has made sure everyone is responsible defensevly, but you cant teach players a scoring touch, wich no one but Naslund has so far.
Bulis is a tool so far, If your a pro you should be slapped on any line and be able to produce. If the coach benches you then you should come back even hungrier.

PS. Morrison is proving that his former success is a product of Nassy and Bert. He cant do anything now.
you are forgetting one thing amigo....coaches have players on a system..each coach has different systems...obviously there is something wrong with Alain's system...example) Mike Keenan..his system was more hits more hits more hits...the team took many penalties and lacked scoring on even ice. The only time the canucks scored was shorthanded.

I don't agree with you saying that if you put a pro on ANY line you should be able to produce (more or less?). That did not work for Naslund...take another look at what you say and provide evidence of that happening for other teams. Secondly, benching someone to make them more "hungrier" is not the right reason. GM's don't bench coaches for ill performances..they fire their ass. A player's job is to produce..which is true. Case in point, a player also has to follow what the coach says. Bulis does get his shots on net..don't take that credit away. He just has to find the "sweedish" touch.

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If your a pro you should be slapped on any line and be able to produce.......Morrison is proving that his former success is a product of Nassy and Bert. He cant do anything now
You have a contradictory in your statement. He can do something now. And that is to work hard and understand each player he is playing with. Lots of homework for both Bulis and Morrison..and Cooke for that matter.

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