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Old Nov 17, 06
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UCLA Police taser incident (video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyvrqcxNIFs

this was done on a cellphone in the library.

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LOS ANGELES -- A cell phone captured video of a 23-year-old student being administered multiple Taser shocks by UCLA police on Tuesday.

The UCLA student was hit with the Taser shocks multiple times while he was in the Powell Library Computer Lab.

Another student recorded the incident on a camera phone. On the video, Mostafa Tabatabainejad can be heard screaming during the incident, which took place at about 11:30 p.m., the Daily Bruin reported.

According to the paper, Tabatabainejad did not show ID to community service officers who were conducting a random check. UCLA police said Tabatabainejad was released by police after he was cited for obstruction/delay of a peace officer in the performance of duty.

The Daily Bruin reported that Tabatabainejad complained when an officer was escorting him from the lab and put his hand on one of Tabatabainejad's arms. He allegedly yelled, "Get off of me," according to the paper. He was then shot with the Taser, reported the paper.

The Daily Bruin reported that after he was hit, Tabatabainejad yelled, "Here's your Patriot Act, here's your f---ing abuse of power."

Police said they thought Tabatabainejad was not harmed in the incident.

"If he was able to walk out of here, I think he was OK," the sergeant said.
I don't know..
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video is a bit sketchy, but yeah that was pretty crazy.
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does anybody know why he was being escorted out?
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Old Nov 17, 06
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does anybody know why he was being escorted out?
In the comments it says because he had no ID on him.
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just another reason why i don't go to the library.
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that's totally profiling...

the guys in a computer lab so he's a terrorist hacker. I mean.... yeah, I suppose that's usually the case with anybody in a university computer lab but... that shit ain't right
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Any time the police are involved with something likes this, kids start yelling things like "abuse of power", or "freedome of speech" and all that jazz.

Whatever, the kid was not complying and the police/security used the methods of authority as to how they have been trained.

How about the kid shuts the fuck up and does what he is told by the autority figure at hand and doesnt try to be a such a fucking tool.
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Old Nov 17, 06
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"sig heil!" "show us your papers!" Sig Heil!"

The student was on his way out of the building, when it happened.

In this day in age, I'm surprised all those 60+ students didn't flip out their camera phones and pointed it at the cops while chanting out "the whole world is watching"
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Any time the police are involved with something likes this, kids start yelling things like "abuse of power", or "freedome of speech" and all that jazz.

Whatever, the kid was not complying and the police/security used the methods of authority as to how they have been trained.

How about the kid shuts the fuck up and does what he is told by the autority figure at hand and doesnt try to be a such a fucking tool.
every time someone gets their ass kicked by the police there's always people saying that he deserved to be beaten (or in this case, tasered) to a pulp cause you know cops totally have the right to taser you multiple times when you forgot your ID card at the school you attend.

Read the article - kid was definitely out of line but he didn't deserve to be taser 4 or 5 times in a row.
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every time someone gets their ass kicked by the police there's always people saying that he deserved to be beaten (or in this case, tasered) to a pulp cause you know cops totally have the right to taser you multiple times when you forgot your ID card at the school you attend.

Read the article - kid was definitely out of line but he didn't deserve to be taser 4 or 5 times in a row.
I didnt say he deserved to be tasered. I said the cops did what they're trained to do. Maybe it was a bit much. But the kid was still pulling the "DONT TOUCH ME" crap.

I usually dont comment on stuff like this cuz its hard to explain what I mean by typing it out and my comments get read wrong.
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Crazee stuff
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taser is supposed to be a next-to-last-resort measure when the cops feel their safety is being threatened. It's not supposed to be the consequence when people aren't respecting their authority.

Maybe the first time i could see if he was being sort of violent (video didn't show), but the next 4 times cause he wouldn't stand up (gee, maybe it had something to do with the fact that he was tasered multiple times) and then threatening to taser the student onlookers who were asking for badge numbers?

Cops are supposed to be there to protect us - not scare or threaten us.
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Any time the police are involved with something likes this, kids start yelling things like "abuse of power", or "freedome of speech" and all that jazz.

Whatever, the kid was not complying and the police/security used the methods of authority as to how they have been trained.

How about the kid shuts the fuck up and does what he is told by the autority figure at hand and doesnt try to be a such a fucking tool.
^^^You're a fucking idiot^^^What gives you the authority to decide whether the police behaved properly or not. It's fuckheads like you that are allowing the NWO to progress so smoothly.
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Cops are human, they can be knocked the fuck out.
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It's fuckheads like you that are allowing the NWO to progress so smoothly.
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taser is supposed to be a next-to-last-resort measure when the cops feel their safety is being threatened. It's not supposed to be the consequence when people aren't respecting their authority.
True, but we cannot see what was actually happining there.

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Maybe the first time i could see if he was being sort of violent (video didn't show), but the next 4 times cause he wouldn't stand up (gee, maybe it had something to do with the fact that he was tasered multiple times) and then threatening to taser the student onlookers who were asking for badge numbers?
I dunno. In a situation like that where that had happened (regardless if the police were right or wrong, it still happened putting them in that situation) With all thoes kids getting up close and stuff with kids these days, wouldnt you feel a little threatened?

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Cops are supposed to be there to protect us - not scare or threaten us.
Indeed. But they are there to uphold the law. (Here is where I dont really want to get into a discussion about this, because I suck at wording things when I type, so... sorry if this goes wrong!) But if they showed up and the kid did what he had done at the start, what should the cops have done? Just said "Oh well, we dont want to scare the kid, we can come try again later?"
Do we know yet why they were picking the kid up? Maybe theres more to it then just 'he didnt show ID'.
This whole thing is kinda sketchy as we dont have alot of information about the whole deal. So alot is open to miss/interpertaion by all of us.

But anyways. I agree that its possable the police used excessive force. But I still think kids have no respect for autority these days.

Kids who sit around a bull shit and make fun of the police... in the end its still that same police offer who would probably put him/her self in front of a gun to protect you!
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^^^You're a fucking idiot^^^What gives you the authority to decide whether the police behaved properly or not. It's fuckheads like you that are allowing the NWO to progress so smoothly.
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Do we know yet why they were picking the kid up? Maybe theres more to it then just 'he didnt show ID'.
This whole thing is kinda sketchy as we dont have alot of information about the whole deal. So alot is open to miss/interpertaion by all of us.
The cops probably would have mentioned and tried to justify that in the article (Yes, I know they don't have full control over the press)
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Old Nov 17, 06
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http://dailybruin.com/news/articles.asp?id=38960

in the UCLA library, aparently you need a specific ID card to access the computer lab. Campus staff do periodic spot-checks and this guy didn't have his card. When asked to leave he didn't and the cops were called. I guess he decided to leave after that but the cops showed up just as he was leaving and i suppoed the grabbed him and that's when the kerfuffle happened.

Like i said, the kid was in the wrong but it certainly doesn't sound like something you'd be tasered repeatedly over. Apparently he even got tasered once more even though he was in cuffs and subdued.
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Old Nov 17, 06
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^^^You're a fucking idiot^^^What gives you the authority to decide whether the police behaved properly or not. It's fuckheads like you that are allowing the NWO to progress so smoothly.
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First off.. chill the fuck out. What gives you the authority to decide whether someone's post is relevant or not? Isn't it ironic that your head is so far up your ass that you're actually still able to sit up on your high horse and look down on someone without reason?

If you're on campus property, using campus resources... it's no different than drinking in a bar. If a campus cop comes up and asks "Do you have ID?" (in otherwords "Are you allowed to be here?") and you resist, is it any different than when a bouncer comes up, asks for your ID, and bounces your ass out of the joint for putting up a fight? Whether the cop used excessive force or not, he acted solely upon the kid's actions. Remember.. for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. When you throw a basketball at a wall, it bounces back at you.

If anything, the cop's poor judgement was an equal reaction to the kid's poor judgement. The guy is ignorant.. one of those people that thinks he knows his rights and thinks he's smarter than he is, when really he should be spending his time actually educating himself on the subject instead of making a complete fool out of himself.

If you've ever taken the time to get to know Matt, you'd know that he is a knowledgable person when it comes to this sort of thing. The guy is military trained and pretty damned accomplished at that. So when he comes in and gives his opinion on it.. it's completely relevant and probably more educated on the subject than the average Joe's. All he's saying is that the officer was doing as he was trained to do.

BTW.. the NWO succeeds because people like you bicker over nonsense issues like this and throw the globalization concept around irrationally, making it look like a big joke in the public eye.

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Old Nov 17, 06
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I didnt say he deserved to be tasered. I said the cops did what they're trained to do. Maybe it was a bit much. But the kid was still pulling the "DONT TOUCH ME" crap.

I usually dont comment on stuff like this cuz its hard to explain what I mean by typing it out and my comments get read wrong.
So you're saying 3 cops (at least 3 possibly 4) can't escort or even carry if necessary one kid out of a library without resorting to weapons and violence?
The kid didn't have a weapon he wasn't even throwing punches. The only fight he seemed to put up was not being able to stand up (after being tasered) which last time I checked was nonviolent resistance.
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I think there is always two sides two this story..so far this video is being very biased with no background information. It is better to just do what the police tell you to do..heck, they even warned the guy..so in a sense, he did ASK for it.
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3 Cops get tasered...hahah

oh man..this is hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNl6o...0Police%20Copssee, it's not so bad afterall hahah
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Old Nov 18, 06
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Doesn't matter if he "asked" for it. It was unnecessary.
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