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Old Nov 21, 06
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Jews In Israel Chant: "We Killed Jesus, We'll Kill You Too!"

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Jews In Israel Chant:
"We Killed Jesus, We'll Kill You Too!"
Swedish human rights worker viciously attacked by Israeli settler



A 19-year old Swedish human rights worker had her cheekbone broken by an Israeli settler in Hebron today. Tove Johansson from Stockholm walked through the Tel Rumeida checkpoint with a small group of human rights workers to accompany Palestinian schoolchildren to their homes. They were confronted by about 100 settlers in small groups, who started chanting in Hebrew "We killed Jesus, we'll kill you too!", a refrain the settlers had been repeating to internationals in Tel Rumeida all day.

After about thirty seconds of waiting, a small group of very aggressive settler men surrounded the international volunteers and began spitting at them, so much so that the internationals described it like "rain." Then settler men from the back of the crowd began jumping up and spitting, while others kicked the volunteers from the back of the crowd and from the side.

The soldiers who were standing just a few feet behind the internationals at the checkpoint just looked on as the internationals were being attacked.

One settler then hit Tove on the left side of her face with an empty bottle, breaking it on her face and leaving her with a broken cheekbone. She immediately fell to the ground and the group of settlers who were watching began to clap, cheer, and chant. The soldiers, who had only watched until this point, then came forward and motioned at the settlers, in a way which the internationals described as "ok… that's enough guys…."

The settlers, however, were allowed to stay in the area and continued watching and clapping as internationals tried to stop the flow of blood from the woman's face. Some settlers who were coming down the hill even tried to take photos of themselves next to her bleeding face, giving the camera a "thumbs-up" sign.

At this point, an international was taken into a police van and asked to identify who had attacked the group. The international did this, pointing out three settlers who the police took into their police vehicles. However, the settlers were all driven to different areas of the neighborhood and released nearly immediately. When one settler was released on Shuhada Street, the settler crowd that was still celebrating the woman's injuries applauded and cheered.

A settler medic came to the scene about 15 minutes after the attack and immediately began interrogating the internationals who had been attacked, about why they were in Hebron. He refused to help the bleeding woman lying on the street in any way .

Five minutes after the settler medic arrived, the army medic arrived and began treating the injured woman. When she was later put on a stretcher, the crowd of settlers again clapped and cheered.

Police officers at the scene then immediately began threatening to arrest the remaining internationals if they did not immediately leave the area, though they had also just been attacked.

The injured woman was taken to Kiryat Arba settlement and then to Hadassah Ein Keren hospital in Jerusalem.

Internationals were later told by the police that the police had not even taken the names of the settlers who were identified as having attacked the internationals and that one of the main assailants had simply told the police that he was due at the airport in two hours to fly back to France.

Earlier in the day at least 5 Palestinians, including a 3-year old child, were injured by settlers, who rampaged through Tel Rumeida hurling stones and bottles at local residents. Palestinian schoolchildren on their way home were also attacked. The IDF, which was intensively deployed in the area, did not intervene to stop the settlers.


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Isrealis have to be the world's most violent people per capita... now someone call me an anti-semite already.
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lol those jews are crazy
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thats fucking rediculous

fuck religion
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Israel, getting away with genocide/racism/murder/terrorism since 1948.
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oh there goes the neighborhood... again.
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all i know is, after 3 years of backpacking, for the most part isralies are the most agressive arrogant people ever!.worse then americans.

some of the conversations ive had with some isralie travellers during the lebanon invasion were completey FUCKING insane.

one guy evan said to me he was pissed off he was stuck in columbia cause hed rather be home killing lebanese. he said that war is "such a amazing rush" and that he was proud of the isralie armys training methods cause they "make you into a perfect robot for war".....

ill never ever forget that conversation.
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Sometimes I find being desensitized a blessing... sometimes I find it's not enough.
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Sometimes I find being desensitized by the media a blessing... other times I find it's not enough.
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Yeh i met an Israeli guy in Rome and he had the same type of hardline views. The middle east question is a very difficult one to answer.
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The darn thing is that they're taking credit for killing Jesus of Nazareth, when everyone knows it was the (Roman) Catholics.
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The darn thing is that they're taking credit for killing Jesus of Nazareth, when everyone knows it was the (Roman) Catholics.
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The darn thing is that they're taking credit for killing Jesus of Nazareth, when everyone knows it was the (Roman) Catholics.
...actually it was the pharisees (jewish priest dudes) that turned the late JC over to the romans.

read your bible and get learned dumb dumb.
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...actually it was the pharisees (jewish priest dudes) that turned the late JC over to the romans.

read your bible and get learned dumb dumb.
Haha, your awesome.
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The darn thing is that they're taking credit for killing Jesus of Nazareth, when everyone knows it was the (Roman) Catholics.
hahahahahahha hahahahah ahahaha ahahahha ahahaha ahahah h ahaha

yup, it was those darn Catholics that 86'ed jesus.

my god.
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What an amazing story. DJMarkPaul has been kind enought to enlighten us with this story. This is but a taste of the crap we will be facing in the future.
We all think the world is such a safe place, but its not. All the wishful/positive thinking is not solving the problem that a great many people are facing everyday.
There are people all over the world who are being vicitmized for just being the another color, or are homeless/poor, or believe in a different religion.
So, the moral of this is that although you are drinking crappy water in Vancouver, there someone getting there head kicked in in Israel for saying no to war.
I'm not a pacafist. We need to defend what we own, but its group like ISRAELIES that are given this green light by the USA to go ahead and commit crimes against humanity. The same thing Saddam Hussein is being hung for in a the near future. The New World Order is being fast-forwarded, like something out of Orsen Well's 1984.
How can one person look at this and not see that its just another crime swept under the rug, another girl disfigured by people who have been lied to, who think that they killed Jesus and that they should kill others as well.
That kind of thinking makes me feel ashamed and frightened that everything people are saying is going to come true.

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A WHOIS of PALSOLIDARITY.ORG turns up the register & host was Zap Zone Network which is partners with Interest!Alert which advertises
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Dubious content perhaps? The plot gets even more fishy when you see Interest!Alert's subsite Bad News

This news story is full of holes, unsubstantiated sources and plenty of coincidences that leave it beyond questionable. Not everything on the internet is true.
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Old Nov 22, 06
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A WHOIS of PALSOLIDARITY.ORG turns up the register & host was Zap Zone Network which is partners with Interest!Alert which advertises

Dubious content perhaps? The plot gets even more fishy when you see Interest!Alert's subsite Bad News

This news story is full of holes, unsubstantiated sources and plenty of coincidences that leave it beyond questionable. Not everything on the internet is true.
Conjecture. You are leading the witness (yourself).

Maybe you should dig deeper instead of apparantly debunking this site.


You can call her:

Tove Johansson - 0547479225


ISM media office 02 2971824 or 059943157


Why don't you tell her yourself that this story is full of holes? Im sure she'd really appreciate it.

So far, you really haven't debunked anything, other than to show that your skepticism is reactionary at best.

See if you can debunk these sites too while you're at it:


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0611/S00324.htm

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.j...usRenderType=8

and here's one for ya I'm sure you'll love:

If this was all I posted than I could understand your skepticism.
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well when that Swedish worker is protecting a group of Palestinians you are risking your own life. They teach these kids to hate the jews etc etc etc None of us can really judge this until you have spent time in the West Bank. I was reading through here and there is a response of an arrogant jew they came across and how they wanted to slaughter the Lebanese....here is a little story for you..

I went on a cruise last xmas to the Carribbean and now I'm talking about teenagers. A group of about 7 American teenagers not older than 18 were sitting around. There was this also this smaller group of 4 Jews that were wandering throughout the trip. The 4 Jews made friends with a couple of the girls and they approached the group of Americans to talk to the girls. Well...the hostility shown by the american because " how dare a jew talk to an american" was the most disgusting thing I've ever heard a 15-17 year old kid say.

Yeah...the Jews and Palestinans have mastered Terrorism to an art and are both just as guilty as the other.
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The darn thing is that they're taking credit for killing Jesus of Nazareth, when everyone knows it was the (Roman) Catholics.
Gnostics believe that Jesus willingly gave himself over to death as a means of shedding his body and entering true "Christification."
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Conjecture. You are leading the witness (yourself).

Maybe you should dig deeper instead of apparantly debunking this site.


You can call her:

Tove Johansson - 0547479225


ISM media office 02 2971824 or 059943157


Why don't you tell her yourself that this story is full of holes? Im sure she'd really appreciate it.

So far, you really haven't debunked anything, other than to show that your skepticism is reactionary at best.

See if you can debunk these sites too while you're at it:


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/WO0611/S00324.htm

http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.j...usRenderType=8

and here's one for ya I'm sure you'll love:

If this was all I posted than I could understand your skepticism.


I, uh, I really don't have time to call up everybody I think is mistaken or mislead. That would be the ultimate exercise in futility.
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A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel"

  • 1955-1992:
  • * Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
  • * Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
  • * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
  • * Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
  • * Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
  • * Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
  • * Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
  • * Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
  • * Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
  • * Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
  • * Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
  • * Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
  • * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
  • * Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
  • * Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
  • * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
  • *Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
  • * Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
  • * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
  • * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
  • * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
  • * Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
  • obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
  • * Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
  • * Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
  • states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
  • * Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
  • two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
  • * Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
  • council's order not to deport Palestinians".
  • * Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
  • by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
  • * Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
  • * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
  • claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
  • * Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
  • Palestinian mayors".
  • * Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
  • nuclear facility".
  • * Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
  • Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
  • * Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
  • * Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
  • allow food supplies to be brought in".
  • * Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
  • and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
  • * Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
  • * Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
  • in attack on PLO headquarters.
  • * Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
  • its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
  • * Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
  • at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
  • * Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
  • denying the human rights of Palestinians.
  • * Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
  • requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
  • * Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
  • * Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
  • * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
  • * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
  • at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
  • * Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
  • Nations.
  • * Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
  • Palestinians.
  • * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
  • calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
  • * Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
  • * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
  • and calls for there immediate return.

1993 to 1995
UNGA Res 50/21 - The Middle East Peace Process (Dec 12, 1995)
UNGA Res 50/22 - The Situation in the Middle East (Dec 12, 1995)
UNGA Res 49/35 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995) l
UNGA Res 49/36 - Human Rights of Palestinian Refugees (Jan 30 1995)
UNGA Res 49/62 - Question of Palestine (Feb 3 1995)
UNGA Res 49/78 - Nuclear Proliferation in Mideast (Jan 11 1995)
UNGA Res 49/87 - Situation in the Middle East (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 49/88 - The Middle East Peace Process (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 49/149- Palestinian Right- Self-Determination (Feb 7 1995)
UNGA Res 48/213 - Assistance to Palestinian Refugees (Mar 15, 1994)
UNGA Res 48/40 - UNRWA for Palestinian Refugees (Dec 13, 1993)
UNGA Res 48/41 - Human Rights in the Territories (Dec 10 1993)
UNGA Res 48/58 - The Middle East Peace Process (Dec 14 1993)
UNGA Res 48/59 - The Situation in the Middle East (Dec 14 1993)
UNGA Res 48/71 - Nuclear-Weapon-Free Zone in Mideast (Dec 16 1993)
UNGA Res 48/78 - Israeli Nuclear Armanent (Dec 16 1993)
UNGA Res 48/94 - Self-Determination & Independence (Dec 20 1993)
UNGA Res 48/124- Non-interference in Elections (Dec 20 1993)
UNGA Res 48/158- Question of Palestine (Dec 20 1993)
UNGA Res 48/212- Repercussions of Israeli Settlements (Dec 21 1993)
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U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel

(1972-2002)

Vetoes: 1972-1982

Subject Date & Meeting US Rep Casting Veto Vote Palestine: Syrian-Lebanese Complaint. 3 power draft resolution 2/10784 9/10/1972 Bush 13-1, 1 Palestine: Examination of Middle East Situation. 8-power draft resolution (S/10974) 7/2/1973 Scali 13-1, 0 (China not partic.) Palestine: Egyptian-Lebanese Complaint. 5-power draft power resolution (S/11898) 12/8/1975 Moynihan 13-1, 1 Palestine: Middle East Problem, including Palestinian question. 6-power draft resolution (S/11940) 1/26/1976 Moynihan 9-1,3 (China & Libya not partic.) Palestine: Situation in Occupied Arab Territories. 5-power draft resolution (S/12022) 3/25/1976 Scranton 14-1,0 Palestine: Report on Committee on Rights of Palestinian People. 4-power draft resolution (S/121119) 6/29/1976 Sherer 10-1,4 Palestine: Palestinian Rights. Tunisian draft resolution. (S/13911) 4/30/1980 McHenry 10-1,4 Palestine: Golan Heights. Jordan draft resolution. (S/14832/Rev. 2) 1/20/1982 Kirkpatrick 9-1,5 Palestine: Situation in Occupied Territories, Jordan draft resolution (S/14943) 4/2/1982 Lichenstein 13-1,1 Palestine: Incident at the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem. 4-power draft resolution 4/20/1982 Kirpatrick 14-1, 0 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. Spain draft resolution. (S/15185) 6/8/1982 Kirpatrick 14-1,0 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. France draft resolution. (S/15255/Rev. 2) 6/26/1982 Lichenstein 14-1 Palestine: Conflict in Lebanon. USSR draft resolution. (S/15347/Rev. 1, as orally amended) 8/6/1982 Lichenstein 11-1,3 Palestine: Situation in Occupied Territories, 20-power draft resolution (S/15895) 8/2/1983 Lichenstein 13-1,1


Security Council Vetoes/Negative voting 1983-present

Subject Date Vote Occupied Arab Territories: Wholesale condemnation of Israeli settlement policies - not adopted 1983
S. Lebanon: Condemns Israeli action in southern Lebanon. S/16732 9/6/1984 Vetoed: 13-1 (U.S.), with 1 abstention (UK) Occupied Territories: Deplores "repressive measures" by Israel against Arab population. S/19459. 9/13/1985 Vetoed: 10-1 (U.S.), with 4 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK, France) Lebanon: Condemns Israeli practices against civilians in southern Lebanon. S/17000. 3/12/1985 Vetoed: 11-1 (U.S.), with 3 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK) Occupied Territories: Calls upon Israel to respect Muslim holy places. S/17769/Rev. 1 1/30/1986 Vetoed: 13-1 (US), with one abstention (Thailand) Lebanon: Condemns Israeli practices against civilians in southern Lebanon. S/17730/Rev. 2. 1/17/1986 Vetoed: 11-1 (U.S.), with 3 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, UK) Libya/Israel: Condemns Israeli interception of Libyan plane. S/17796/Rev. 1. 2/6/1986 Vetoed: 10 -1 (US), with 4 abstentions (Australia, Denmark, France, UK) Lebanon: Draft strongly deplored repeated Israeli attacks against Lebanese territory and other measures and practices against the civilian population; (S/19434) 1/18/1988 vetoed 13-1 (US), with 1 abstention (UK) Lebanon: Draft condemned recent invasion by Israeli forces of Southern Lebanon and repeated a call for the immediate withdrawal of all Israeli forces from Lebanese territory; (S/19868) 5/10/1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Lebanon: Draft strongly deplored the recent Israeli attack against Lebanese territory on 9 December 1988; (S/20322) 12/14/1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Draft called on Israel to accept de jure applicability of the 4th Geneva Convention; (S/19466) 1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Draft urged Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention, rescind the order to deport Palestinian civilians, and condemned policies and practices of Israel that violate the human rights of the Palestinian people in the occupied territories; (S/19780) 1988 vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Strongly deplored Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories, and strongly deplored also Israel's continued disregard of relevant Security Council decisions. 2/17/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Condemned Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories. 6/9/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: Deplored Israel's policies and practices in the occupied territories. 11/7/1989 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Occupied territories: NAM draft resolution to create a commission and send three security council members to Rishon Lezion, where an Israeli gunmen shot down seven Palestinian workers. 5/31/1990 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East: Confirms that the expropriation of land by Israel in East Jerusalem is invalid and in violation of relevant Security Council resolutions and provisions of the Fourth Geneva convention; expresses support of peace process, including the Declaration of Principles of 9/13/1993 5/17/1995 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East: Calls upon Israeli authorities to refrain from all actions or measures, including settlement activities. 3/7/1997 Vetoed 14-1 (US) Middle East: Demands that Israel cease construction of the settlement in east Jerusalem (called Jabal Abu Ghneim by the Palestinians and Har Homa by Israel), as well as all the other Israeli settlement activity in the occupied territories 3/21/1997 Vetoed 13-1,1 (US) Call for UN Observers Force in West Bank, Gaza 3/27/2001 Vetoed 9-1 (US),
with four abstentions
(Britain, France, Ireland and Norway) Condemned acts of terror, demanded an end to violence and the establishment of a monitoring mechanism to bring in observers. 12/15/2001 Vetoed 12-1 (US)
with two abstentions (Britain and Norway)


Source: U.S. State Department





Thats just to 2001.

Iraq has broken 18 un resolutions.

Maybe the us invaded the wrong country.
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I, uh, I really don't have time to call up everybody I think is mistaken or mislead. That would be the ultimate exercise in futility.
I find it pretty futile that you can't admit you might have been wrong, and that was a direct contact line to the girl btw not some mislead reporters. It's understandble for a variety of reasons that you don't want to call her though.

If you really don't think that this sorta thing could happen there though I sorta envy how safe you might see the world to be. This sorta shit happens every day.

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Capt AA: Oh I don't think there's a clear innocent victim in this process, but just look at how Israel was formed. They bulldozed people's homes and kicked them off their own land, it's an occupation, people have a right to be distressed. I am not advocating racism on any side, both are at fault to their own degree. But to make a crude analysis, Arabs are racist towards the Jews, Jews (zionists) are racist to everyone else. There's no clear innocent victim in my view, but there's definetly the lesser of 2 evils.


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As for the whole Jesus debacle, some of you should study John Alegro and not take this stuff so literally, or maybe watch this clip if you've got 3+ hours.
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I find it pretty futile that you can't admit you might have been wrong, and that was a direct contact line to the girl btw not some mislead reporters. It's understandble for a variety of reasons that you don't want to call her though.

If you really don't think that this sorta thing could happen there though I sorta envy how safe you might see the world to be. This sorta shit happens every day.
uh, dude, a person on the other end of a phone number does not a credible source make. Everything stated in my previous (save for the last paragraph, which I conceide is opinion) was a fact (the whois, etc.). I merely pointed out that the sum of those facts eroded the credibility of the source of the story.

Spin is everything and fact isn't always the enemy of truth.
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_recent notes

_Gun battles have erupted after Israeli ground troops backed by tanks and armoured vehicles raided the northern Gaza towns of Beit Hanoun and Jebaliya…..The army's operations came after Israel's security cabinet said it would continue its military raids and "targeted killings" in Gaza. (aljazeera, nov22)

_According B’tselem, the Israeli human rights information organisation, the Israeli forces destroyed 251 homes in Gaza leaving 1,577 people homeless between July and November 15 2006. (aljazeera, nov22)

_A close aide to Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, has said that the territory's economy is close to collapse….According to Saeb Erekat (palestines chief negotiator) , Palestine's gross domestic product (GDP) is projected to fall to $2.9 billion in 2006 from $4.04 billion in 2005. (aljazeera, oct31)

_Hamas and Fatah have agreed on Mohammed Shbeir, a US-educated academic, as the prime minister in a unity government. (aljazeera, nov14)

_Financial sanctions and Israel's withholding of revenue it collects on behalf of the Palestinians have made it largely impossible for the government to pay its 165,000 civil servants (aljazeera, nov14)

_The legitimacy of the Palestinian resistance group Hamas is being debated in a US courtroom under the watchful eye of the Palestinian-American community.
Washington lists Hamas as a terrorist organization. Prosecutors accused two Arab-Americans on Thursday of supporting murder and mayhem in Israel by helping funnel money to and coordinate the activities of Hamas, which was elected to power this January but remains designated by the US as a terrorist organisation. Many in the Arab-American community see the case as part of a broader crackdown on Muslims living in the United States and an erosion of constitutional guarantees of due process and a fair trial. Bassel Abushaban, a member of the Palestinian-American community, told AFP after watching opening arguments with around 50 other Palestinian-Americans:
"It's a case the community feels is just the beginning.
"Everyone is afraid of even thinking about helping their families. The message that is coming out of this is that any organisation that is helping the Palestinian people is going to be shut down." (aljazeera, oct22)

_Cinema in Gaza and the West Bank has been given a shot in the arm by the start of a new festival that aims to showcase female Palestinian film-makers. Public cinemas are very rare in Gaza and the West Bank. Shashan is a non-profit organisation that is screening the best of women's cinema in the occupied territories until December despite severe economic recession, repeated Israeli closures and funding shortages. (aljazeera, oct12)

_Palestinian refugees in Lebanon who used to receive money from the Palestinian Authority have seen their payments stop. Refugees live in extreme poverty in Lebanon A considerable number of refugees used to receive assistance from the Palestinian Authority, but that has stopped after an international embargo was imposed on the Hamas-led Palestinian government since the Islamist group won elections in January.
Around 400,000 Palestinians are registered with the UN as refugees in Lebanon, the majority of them housed in 12 camps. (aljazeera, oct8)

_Hundreds of Palestinians have formed a human shield around the home of a fighter in the northern Gaza strip to prevent an Israeli airstrike on the building.
People surrounded the home of Weil Baroud, a commander of the Popular Resistance Committees in the northern town of Beit Lahiya, after he received a warning from the Israeli army late Saturday giving him 30 minutes to leave the house.
Baroud is charged with firing homemade rockets at Israel. Crowds of people stood on the rooftop and in the yard of the home. Nour Odeh, Aljazeera's correspondent, reported that it was the first time such an act has been seen in the Gaza strip by residents, but could not say whether it would be enough to prevent an Israeli airstrike. The crowd chanted anti-Israel and anti-American slogans, and people said they were prepared to give their lives to protect the home. "Yes to martyrdom. No to surrender," the crowd chanted. (aljazeera, nov18)

*(the UN is currently condemning the “use of human shields” in Palestine)

_Operation Autumn Clouds ( recent airstrikes on gaza refugee camps following consistant assaults since june)

_Israel's supreme court has rejected Palestinian petitions against the route of an Israeli barrier which will cut them off from their land. The court said they could appeal again if arrangements for farmers to reach their crops through passages controlled by the Israeli military proved unsatisfactory.
"The Israelis have, in fact, decided to imprison us in one big cage and surround us," Abd al-Rahim Nitani, a resident of the Palestinian village of Um al-Tin near the three settlements, told the Israeli website YNetnews. (aljazeera, oct29)

_The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Wednesday that US-led economic sanctions had had a "dramatic effect" on medical services, despite efforts by donor countries and organisations to support private and charitable healthcare facilities in the territories…..
"Emergency life-saving services as well as curative and preventative care are jeopardised by the current situation," the ICRC added. (aljazeera, nov15)

_The Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) is proposing to obtain a UN General Assembly condemnation of the recent massacre of Palestinian civilians carried out by Israeli troops, according to diplomats from that bloc. (granma, nov16)

_A Palestinian grandmother blew herself up near Israeli troops sweeping through northern Gaza on Thursday, while eight other Palestinians were killed in a day of clashes and continued Palestinian rocket fire….Fatma Omar An-Najar. Her relatives said she was 64 — by far the oldest of the more than 100 Palestinian suicide bombers who have targeted Israelis over the past six years. (cbc, nov23)
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_recent notes

_Gun battles have erupted after Israeli ground troops backed by tanks and armoured vehicles raided the northern Gaza towns of Beit Hanoun and Jebaliya…..The army's operations came after Israel's security cabinet said it would continue its military raids and "targeted killings" in Gaza. (aljazeera, nov22)

_According B’tselem, the Israeli human rights information organisation, the Israeli forces destroyed 251 homes in Gaza leaving 1,577 people homeless between July and November 15 2006. (aljazeera, nov22)

_A close aide to Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, has said that the territory's economy is close to collapse….According to Saeb Erekat (palestines chief negotiator) , Palestine's gross domestic product (GDP) is projected to fall to $2.9 billion in 2006 from $4.04 billion in 2005. (aljazeera, oct31)

_Hamas and Fatah have agreed on Mohammed Shbeir, a US-educated academic, as the prime minister in a unity government. (aljazeera, nov14)

_Financial sanctions and Israel's withholding of revenue it collects on behalf of the Palestinians have made it largely impossible for the government to pay its 165,000 civil servants (aljazeera, nov14)

_The legitimacy of the Palestinian resistance group Hamas is being debated in a US courtroom under the watchful eye of the Palestinian-American community.
Washington lists Hamas as a terrorist organization. Prosecutors accused two Arab-Americans on Thursday of supporting murder and mayhem in Israel by helping funnel money to and coordinate the activities of Hamas, which was elected to power this January but remains designated by the US as a terrorist organisation. Many in the Arab-American community see the case as part of a broader crackdown on Muslims living in the United States and an erosion of constitutional guarantees of due process and a fair trial. Bassel Abushaban, a member of the Palestinian-American community, told AFP after watching opening arguments with around 50 other Palestinian-Americans:
"It's a case the community feels is just the beginning.
"Everyone is afraid of even thinking about helping their families. The message that is coming out of this is that any organisation that is helping the Palestinian people is going to be shut down." (aljazeera, oct22)

_Cinema in Gaza and the West Bank has been given a shot in the arm by the start of a new festival that aims to showcase female Palestinian film-makers. Public cinemas are very rare in Gaza and the West Bank. Shashan is a non-profit organisation that is screening the best of women's cinema in the occupied territories until December despite severe economic recession, repeated Israeli closures and funding shortages. (aljazeera, oct12)

_Palestinian refugees in Lebanon who used to receive money from the Palestinian Authority have seen their payments stop. Refugees live in extreme poverty in Lebanon A considerable number of refugees used to receive assistance from the Palestinian Authority, but that has stopped after an international embargo was imposed on the Hamas-led Palestinian government since the Islamist group won elections in January.
Around 400,000 Palestinians are registered with the UN as refugees in Lebanon, the majority of them housed in 12 camps. (aljazeera, oct8)

_Hundreds of Palestinians have formed a human shield around the home of a fighter in the northern Gaza strip to prevent an Israeli airstrike on the building.
People surrounded the home of Weil Baroud, a commander of the Popular Resistance Committees in the northern town of Beit Lahiya, after he received a warning from the Israeli army late Saturday giving him 30 minutes to leave the house.
Baroud is charged with firing homemade rockets at Israel. Crowds of people stood on the rooftop and in the yard of the home. Nour Odeh, Aljazeera's correspondent, reported that it was the first time such an act has been seen in the Gaza strip by residents, but could not say whether it would be enough to prevent an Israeli airstrike. The crowd chanted anti-Israel and anti-American slogans, and people said they were prepared to give their lives to protect the home. "Yes to martyrdom. No to surrender," the crowd chanted. (aljazeera, nov18)

*(the UN is currently condemning the “use of human shields” in Palestine)

_Operation Autumn Clouds ( recent airstrikes on gaza refugee camps following consistant assaults since june)

_Israel's supreme court has rejected Palestinian petitions against the route of an Israeli barrier which will cut them off from their land. The court said they could appeal again if arrangements for farmers to reach their crops through passages controlled by the Israeli military proved unsatisfactory.
"The Israelis have, in fact, decided to imprison us in one big cage and surround us," Abd al-Rahim Nitani, a resident of the Palestinian village of Um al-Tin near the three settlements, told the Israeli website YNetnews. (aljazeera, oct29)

_The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said on Wednesday that US-led economic sanctions had had a "dramatic effect" on medical services, despite efforts by donor countries and organisations to support private and charitable healthcare facilities in the territories…..
"Emergency life-saving services as well as curative and preventative care are jeopardised by the current situation," the ICRC added. (aljazeera, nov15)

_The Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) is proposing to obtain a UN General Assembly condemnation of the recent massacre of Palestinian civilians carried out by Israeli troops, according to diplomats from that bloc. (granma, nov16)

_A Palestinian grandmother blew herself up near Israeli troops sweeping through northern Gaza on Thursday, while eight other Palestinians were killed in a day of clashes and continued Palestinian rocket fire….Fatma Omar An-Najar. Her relatives said she was 64 — by far the oldest of the more than 100 Palestinian suicide bombers who have targeted Israelis over the past six years. (cbc, nov23)
I don't believe those sources fable, I think you just made all that up.

Theres just too many holes in there.

Like the ones in Bobmans brain.
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