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Old Dec 18, 06
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need PC help

k i got a new rig just last week or so
its a fuckin beast and a half and i shoodnt be having probs.

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/index.p...latformid=1000

thats it...
now ive installed my OS along with all my pirated software...
ive had these installed on my old comp and it runs fine
now the rip of XP i got is new, and i can update this 1
i installed it on the old comp aswell and it seems 2 be running normal

but on here, my load times are crap and the thing is crashing alot!
i ran quake4 @ 1600x1200 4x antialiasing ultra high quality and after a smoke and a shit the game wood finally load. the game was amazingly smooth.

now if i closed the game and re opened it it woodnt even load @ all!

now ive taken it back 2 ncix they havent even suggested it 2 be the OS
but im getting very impatient now i want the thing 2 be running

wat are some suggestions?
wat are some memtests i can run on my cpu/ram?
how do i use/understand em?


please help!!!
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Old Dec 18, 06
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ctrl alt del

kill as many processes as possible
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Old Dec 18, 06
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theres a program called memtest... and prime95 for your cpu.

http://www.memtest86.com/

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103

Make sure your OS is up to date and I recommend buying a legit copy of XP... considering you just blew $4,500 on a new computer (which probably should of only cost you half of that) I'm sure you have some loose change for a copy.
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Old Dec 18, 06
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ctrl alt del

kill as many processes as possible

wow thx that helped!!!
pfffffft

im in no mood for stupid replies :(
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Old Dec 18, 06
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theres a program called memtest... and prime95 for your cpu.

http://www.memtest86.com/

http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=103

Make sure your OS is up to date and I recommend buying a legit copy of XP... considering you just blew $4,500 on a new computer (which probably should of only cost you half of that) I'm sure you have some loose change for a copy.
my copy of XP updates, but yes its pirated.
but cood it really be the OS causing so many problems?

thank u for the links :D
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Old Dec 18, 06
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i can't believe someone is dumb enough to drop $4500 on a desktop so they can play quake
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Old Dec 18, 06
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lol way 2 assume
obviously i didnt blow it for that hah


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i can't believe someone is dumb enough to drop $4500 on a desktop so they can play quake
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Old Dec 19, 06
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my copy of XP updates, but yes its pirated.
but cood it really be the OS causing so many problems?

thank u for the links :D
check your mem. I'm assuming everything is a fresh installation?

mabye take a look at some known issues with the game. Mabye Q4 isn't compatible or has some problems with some hardware that you have. The mobo or ram are usually the contenders.
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Old Dec 19, 06
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Old Dec 19, 06
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check your mem. I'm assuming everything is a fresh installation?

mabye take a look at some known issues with the game. Mabye Q4 isn't compatible or has some problems with some hardware that you have. The mobo or ram are usually the contenders.
its not just with quake4
the whole pc seems 2 slow down after i perform one task
another example is i had cubase going half decent for awhile
and eventually it slows right down...


i even tryed installing quake 3 and sof 2....
my old comp loads em faster
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Old Dec 19, 06
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1stly you should never use a cracked operating system.. you are just asking for problems.. long term and short term.. if you can afford a system you can afford XP

However... i would be wondering.. did you even defrag after all that install?

id hope so.. but anyways besides that.. i have a sweet rig as well and when i installed a bunch of pirated software i had the same sort of problems... pirated software just often does not run as efficiently and often clogs up your memory.. especially games with no cd cracks and such.

But you havnt described ANYTHING about your problem in computer geek speak :\ so its kinda hit and miss...

One problem i see however is your using a single harddrive... too be honest it isnt nessesary but 2 harddrives i find has increased my computers long term health by at least 50% ... i have all my system and LEGAL games installed on one hard drive.. the other is for all my downloads, and cracked games (its also larger)

This keeps the harddrive that my system runs off of clean and efficient.

you have 4 gbs of ram tho.. so unless you have burnt them out (tho i expect that box has to have some sort of cooling...) you should be fine.


Now i dont kno what else to suggest other then defraging, cleaning up your file.. checking your memory with the tools listed above and buying a legal OS...

Howevere tip on your next computer purchase, just cuz ure graphics card is 768 mbs doesnt mean its the best.

Your cards only 545 mhz... my card is almost pushing that and its a 256...

what you want is max clock and mem speed.... The money you dropped on that could have gotten you upwards of 800 mhz...

after 256 the amount of memory is unimportant unless you plan to try and use your card in 3 years when it will still suck even with that big memory amount. I would have suggested droppin some cash on a nice 512 with 700+ clock speed
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Old Dec 19, 06
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Sorry i dint rea;lize the 545 mhz was memory speed... my mistake... but even still ... my point still stands theres a ew cheaper card on that list of cards ncix offers that are 600+ with 1.4 ghz core speed...

(Raedon x1650 pro 600 mhz 1.4 ghz) for example only 200 $$

tho you coulf afford a much higher qaulity card

such as...

XFX Geforce 7900 GTX 675MHZ 512 mb 256 bit 1.7 ghz (612$)

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Old Dec 19, 06
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It sounds like a heat issue to me.

I had a similar issue. I would turn the computer on, and it would run amazing, but slowly the performace would degrade.

I learned that my CPU had a built in mechanism to scale back its clock speed in the event of excessive heat. I think all modern CPU's do this.

My case got really hot because I had a crazy grfx card which also generated a lot of heat.

To fix the problem, i tore off the small heatsink and fan and replaced it with a large heatsink with heatpipes. ($50 at NCIX).

Also, make sure your computer is in a well ventilated area with a lot of space to breath.

After that my computer ran solid and fast.

Hope that helps
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Old Dec 19, 06
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Sorry i dint rea;lize the 545 mhz was memory speed... my mistake... but even still ... my point still stands theres a ew cheaper card on that list of cards ncix offers that are 600+ with 1.4 ghz core speed...

(Raedon x1650 pro 600 mhz 1.4 ghz) for example only 200 $$

tho you coulf afford a much higher qaulity card

such as...

XFX Geforce 7900 GTX 675MHZ 512 mb 256 bit 1.7 ghz (612$)
mabye he wanted to future proof and get dx10? It's a great card and can be OC'ed quite easily. I just wouldn't spend the extra money on an Asus since they seem to overprice their cards and bundle some stuff with it.

Junglist,

ya Intel chips underclock when overheating to avoid crashing, it's a sweet feature, but annoying when you want full performance. Like he said, go grab some fans or even look into water cooling if you want. You can then be able to OC both vid card and cpu if you wanted too.
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Old Dec 19, 06
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Are all your drivers updated from the actual product site or are you using the windows stuff?

If it's still loading and generally working I wouldn't think it too be a hardware issue aside from memory. When I setup my new rig, I had the same issues and they improved after I updated drivers PROPERLY. However, I still needed to replace my video card because it still wasn' up to par.

I'm not a certified pro or anything, but just making sure you check the small stuff before you go nuts.

edit:

If that was all useless I hope this link isn't:) www.pcpitstop.com

Last edited by Capt.AA; Dec 19, 06 at 12:56 PM.
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Old Dec 19, 06
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I BET THIS PROBLEM COULD BE FIXED BY A REALLY INSANE DESKTOP SKIN
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Old Dec 19, 06
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Make sure your OS is up to date and I recommend buying a legit copy of XP... considering you just blew $4,500 on a new computer (which probably should of only cost you half of that) I'm sure you have some loose change for a copy.
pfft

search google for genuwine bypass.

first link, download.. problem solved.

yeah, i agree.. for that setup.. you spend way too much.
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Old Dec 19, 06
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I BET THIS PROBLEM COULD BE FIXED BY A REALLY INSANE DESKTOP SKIN
Standard.
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Old Dec 19, 06
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Dont buy from NCIX...... thats my final suggestion.. go to a good local computer store and talk to people who actually care about their customers becuz they directly affect their monthly pay check...

i use Multi Tech Micro Systems.... www.multitec.ca / 6852 Merrit avenue Burnaby 604 435 5259

They treat me good and offer intelligent comments on what to buy, even if it makes them less.. (Like when i wanted a 512 and they enlightnened me that the 256 version of my card was not only cheaper but better)
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Old Dec 19, 06
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NCIX ISN'T BAD, BUT THEY AREN'T GOING TO HELP YOU TOO MUCH IF YOU'RE USING A PIRATED OS

ATTIC ON THE OTHER HAND IS HORRIBLE
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Old Dec 20, 06
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Dont buy from NCIX...... thats my final suggestion.. go to a good local computer store and talk to people who actually care about their customers becuz they directly affect their monthly pay check...

i use Multi Tech Micro Systems.... www.multitec.ca / 6852 Merrit avenue Burnaby 604 435 5259

They treat me good and offer intelligent comments on what to buy, even if it makes them less.. (Like when i wanted a 512 and they enlightnened me that the 256 version of my card was not only cheaper but better)
yeah, well.. if you dont know how to build a pc, you shouldnt be going to NCIX.

yeah, the service there is ass but i make sure i read all reviews on hardware im thinking of buying.
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Old Dec 20, 06
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well i took it back 2 ncix they can figure it out
the OS and software i use are fine, i got it installed on the old comp
works great

and there shood be no heat issue if thats wat it was
i got a huge heatsink and even an xtra fan on the HD

ah well they'll fix it just take 2 long
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Old Dec 23, 06
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get somebody else's copy of XP that you know works well and do a repair install over your current OS. Quick and dirty way to figure out if its your copy without having to re-install everthing (your Antivirus and shit might have to get reinstalled)

also. check w3b 4 h4x.
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