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Dec 27, 06
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Should they be charged?
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you know, these "kids" were 18 years old... if they didn't know the consequenses of drinking and driving, then they deserved what their fate held for them. It's nailed into your head at a very young age that drinking and driving is not a good choice. As for the parents... I have no problems with them. They had their 18 year old son host a party for his 18 year old friends and got alcohol for them... end of the semester... why the heck not? They were probably sitting upstairs in their living room "supervising" this party... unaware that some douchebag with an ego the size of the pole he crashed into was going to be an idiot and get behind the wheel. If anything, the kid's parents should be charged with child endangerment... for clearly not warning him of the dangers of drinking and driving... not some parents who wanted to do something nice for their kid at the end of the term... douchebags... 
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Dec 27, 06
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these parents should definitely be charged.
having a party where everyone is of age and is responsible for themselves is one thing. but having a bunch of underage kids at your residence getting drunk and not demanding keys or them to spend the night is plain fucking stupid.
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Dec 27, 06
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THEY'RE 18!!!! I nominate this kid for the Darwin awards... we really needed some guy like that outta the gene pool. I don;'t understand how you can't see the fault in someone who is 18, technically an adult (can legally vote!!!)
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Dec 27, 06
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you have to understand the education system down there is not up to par....
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Dec 27, 06
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fair enough
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Dec 27, 06
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who gives a shit if they can vote? the legal drinking age in the states is 21. the parents knew what was going on, knew that there was underage drinking and didnt control it.
i have no problem with kids drinking, but since the parents allowed these kids to enter their residence and drink they are legally responsible.
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Dec 27, 06
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...no thanks.
1) I'd be impressed if I got into the states, seeing has how I'm not allowed in them (must be my democratic attitude) 2) One person cannot make a difference... fuck those NBC commercials 3) The bud here is better 4) I want my kids growing up in a society where they shouldn't be afraid to be politically incorrect
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Dec 27, 06
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I think the parents should be charged. Just like at a bar, if you are hosting an alcoholic event, you are responsible for their actions while they are in your household, especially if they are underage and they are drinking and their parents were aware of this. They should have been responsible for them, even if they are 18 or not and took the keys from everyone who was drinking and perhaps provided a ride home if this was a party that they were doing for their kids.
Regardless if they know that drunk driving is bad, when you are under the influence you tend to feel invincible and perhaps this kid was no different. It's the parents responsiblity and they didn't take action.
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Dec 27, 06
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I can understand where the parents were coming from.
At 18 kids will do as they wish regardless of what the parents say. The parents probably wanted to have the kids drinking in a safe environment where they knew they would be ok. As opposed to them all just going to some bush party and driving there and back or something along thoes lines. The parents probably could have kept a better eye on things. I believe the parents should be charges, because good intentions or not, they broke the law. However, I personaly dont think they should have the book thrown at them. But not let free either. But thats just how I would look at it.
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Dec 28, 06
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Parents should be fined at the most, no jail time or criminal record - they were all 18 after all
if you're the one driving then it is up to you to know your limit, admitt when you can't drive. as for the passenger, just as at fault as the driver - don't drive with some one who is tanked
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Dec 28, 06
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They somehow proved the parents knew alcohol was served and therefore they are responsible for what is going on in their property, but I don´t know if you can connect this responsibility to the fact one idiot went behind the wheel... that´s his responsibility, he has probably had his licence for over two years, so he knows what´s going on.
Anyway, in my opinion, and I keep repeating it, driving age lower than drinking age is a bad bad rule.
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Dec 28, 06
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Whoo Gives. A. FUCK. fuck legally respinsible, by 18 you can make your own desisions. The only difference having the party at a house made was .:LESS PEOPLE DROVE TO AND FRO THE PARTY:. Otherwise woulda been somewhere at a park or in the bush, and like 1/2 the kids would have driven there. So far as i am concerned if the kid is stupid enough to drink and drive the parents hold no responsibility on those actions once the kids leave their property. It would be like a bar tender noking you to the floor and taking your keys becuz he sensed you were going to drive home. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. Parents should be let off, and the kids grave should be trod upon for his stupidity. I am 18 and i have no respect for anyone who DD's Its stupid, and it gets people killed. Just last night a kid i know in gr 11 was driving his parents car, without a lisence and drunk as fuck... straght into a ditch .... (Failed to use a roundabout properly, just went over it and into a ditch) Well lucky for him, he called his parents and his dad came before the cops and pretended that he was driving. The kid wasnt hurt, but the next time i see him im going to slap him and tell him to not be such a dumbass. If i had seen him go to leave in the car had he not crashed. And seen how drunk he was. I probably would have gotten a few friends grabbed him, drove him home and his car. Me and my friends were not drinking and driving. Only 2 guys were drinking and they were not drivers. We did however smoke a shit load of weed. However at one point we left to go somewhere and i said , No.. You are too baked to drive, give it 1/2 an hour... once wed sat around listening to music and felt attentive enough, and not as baked 45 minutes later my friend drove us home. And as an exmaple, the last time a friend of mine tried to leave a party and go driving drunk, we grabbed him and took his keys, locked his car and then walked his ass home (he only lived 3 blocks away) .. he got his car in the morning. So fuck these police, leave the rents alone. Its the kids fault entirely.
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Dec 28, 06
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complain all u want. the law is the law no drinkin under 21 in the states. and obviously no dwi. 18 voting age is irrelevant. it's similar in canada legally, drinkin age is 19 and voting age is 18. there was a movement to lower voting age to 16 http://www.vote16.ca/en/index.htm the bill got defeated. voting at w/e age is a privilege to participate. it does not automatically make u an adult.
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Dec 28, 06
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Society should see you and your friends as role models !!
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Dec 28, 06
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Did the parents "throw the party", or did they just allow it to happen?
Also there's a seperation between the crimes of "providing underage kids with a place to drink and party" and "drinking and driving" (and subsequently getting killed). Obviously the parents are on the hook for the former. Are the responsible for the latter? Should every host of a party (underage or otherwise) be held legally liable if someone from that party who is hammered gets behind the wheel? No-one would blame the hosts of a party at which everyone's of age for a subsequent DUI death. The crux is whether you think the fact that the homeowners were parents and the partiers were kids changes that. To my mind they're negligible, but not responsible.
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Dec 29, 06
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The couple could be held responsible for allowing them alcohol, but that's all. Seeing how they were above the age of majority and are fully aware of whats going on around them, the 18 year olds are fully responsible for their own actions.
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Dec 29, 06
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honestly, when horrible things happen and the responsible parties are dead they usually look for the next group of people to take their frustration out on, and isn't that wonderful? Instead of trying to use this for good, they have decided to punish people as some kind of deterrent.
while i understand this situation is unfortunate, 18 year olds are not stupid and if they can legally vote, drive a car and face charges as an adult, then they sure as hell are mentally capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong... people just look for someone to blame to hope it will bring their children back and i find more and more these days people are unwilling to accept someone had a lapse in good judgement, people win millions of dollars for suing companies because their coffee was hot and they burned their legs when it spilled and were not properly warned on the cup. come on.
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