Saddam hangs.

[*SunShyne*]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

he was good in south park, and for that - he will be remembered.

I wonder if we will see him in any other episodes now that he's gone?

[tiedye]

Obviously.. he was already in Hell once.

[*SunShyne*]

true.

Their new season is coming out soon... I'm sure they'll have something to say

[crookedking]

saddam now lives with mormons.

you know what i think they should have done (whoever "they" are)? they should have paraded him around the US so the masses could pelt him with rotten veggies.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by Vitamin-X

hmmm, they may have created a martyr here.
Definitely seems like a US run Kangaroo court anyway.
If the US didn't demand him dead the Shi'ites would have done it anyway.
There seemed to be an unnatural quickness to his execution.

The Judges were trained by the U.S. in Law etc. But it wasn't a US Court that tried him. It was Iraqi.

So basically, if you say Capital Punishment isn't just EVER... what were we to do with the Nazis at the Nürnberg Trials? I suppose it's okay to let the perpatrators of 6,000,000+ Deaths of Jewish People ALONE nevermind the incidental deaths of Allied Soldiers and regular German Citizens just live out their lives peacefully in a Cell. Fuck that noise. You do the Crime, you pay the penalty. Game over. That's just how I see it.

I don't care, he's hung. Just means less shit to watch on TV now.

Originally Posted by Vitamin-X

As far as deserving it or not I can't really say.
Looking at the state of the country now and the kind of people he was ruling I can't really fault him for using an iron fist.
Seriously, by the standards of "crimes against humanity" we could hang every ruler of every country in the world.

I agree. But remember, it's History isn't written or even determined by the Losers.

To the Winners go the spoils and the fame.

[Ista]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

So when are they going to hang bush then?

Thank you.

That fucker shoulda been next.
He's the prime puppet and cause of all the bullshit that happened in my old BACKYARD as of 9/11.
They should fuckin burn his ass alive.
he's just as guilty as saddam. Bush and his squad have done their fare share.

They shoulda kept Clinton in house....So what , he got a lil sucky fucky on the side! BIG DEAL?!! Bush fucked over his entire nation.

....I say execute Bush. He's a huge instigator.
I cant replace the XXXX amount of friends / family I lost in wars and bombings thanks to that man.
But the USA can find a better prez...That SOB is just trying to finish what his father started...and all its going to cause is more war.

[crookedking]

clinton wasn't all that nice either. people in serbia still hate him.

[*SunShyne*]

Clinton looks like a God compared to Bush... Kosovo was necessary. Serbia...meh... but still, the man got a blow job in the Oval Office, he was the cool guy who played the sax....

And then... there's Bush

[crookedking]

what was so necessary about kosovo? i don't understand what you mean by that.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

I wonder if we will see him in any other episodes now that he's gone?

probably. it'll be extra shocking because he's dead now.
Matt and Trey will be all over this shit. They'll probably make a whole episode about it.

[fable]

Originally Posted by crookedking

what was so necessary about kosovo? i don't understand what you mean by that.

Im curious too.

I heard Sadam had a small penis, but after watching that video, it appeared he was well hung

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Prissypants

At what point does murder become justified? This whole thing got me thinking. It is easy to say he got what he deserved but what are the processes that allow someone like this to come into power in the first place and allow them to commit the crimes they do. Shouldn't we be attacking those things instead of killing one person and saying that the world is now a better place? It isn't. Saddam was in prison. He had no power left. He was impotent and they go and kill someone for what? Revenge? Some sort of validation? The things that put him into that situation still exist. As for the death penalty, unless you are ready to look into someone's eyes, take out a gun and kill a person who you think "deserves it" then seriously shut up. I know I couldn't kill someone in cold blood. When you react with violence you create more violence. How about getting mad at how this person was given the power to kill so many. Everyone, including myself, is guilty of letting situations like this occur. It is funny how easy it is to throw blame on an individual and use them as a scapegoat when it is people like you and I who allow them into a position where they are able to kill thousands of people. By killing Hussein, it has helped to give some people the illusion of security when in fact there will be more like him to come.

*Gets off of soapbox*

I can definitely see where you're going with this.

It's funny that Sadam's trial and execution were not held to the same standards as western leaders were trying to create in Iraq by invading it in the first place. I don't even think the worst serial killer in America would be executed a mere 53 or so days after their conviction in public where some were allowed to film it.

Shouldn't we be holding our captors to the same standards we expected of them?

[fable]

Originally Posted by Prissypants

At what point does murder become justified? This whole thing got me thinking. It is easy to say he got what he deserved but what are the processes that allow someone like this to come into power in the first place and allow them to commit the crimes they do. Shouldn't we be attacking those things instead of killing one person and saying that the world is now a better place? It isn't. Saddam was in prison. He had no power left. He was impotent and they go and kill someone for what? Revenge? Some sort of validation? The things that put him into that situation still exist. As for the death penalty, unless you are ready to look into someone's eyes, take out a gun and kill a person who you think "deserves it" then seriously shut up. I know I couldn't kill someone in cold blood. When you react with violence you create more violence. How about getting mad at how this person was given the power to kill so many. Everyone, including myself, is guilty of letting situations like this occur. It is funny how easy it is to throw blame on an individual and use them as a scapegoat when it is people like you and I who allow them into a position where they are able to kill thousands of people. By killing Hussein, it has helped to give some people the illusion of security when in fact there will be more like him to come.

*Gets off of soapbox*

Well said bro. Peep the following.

Statement of Mobilization Against War & Occupation on Saddam Hussein’s Execution:
An Execution Carried Out by 150,000 Occupation Forces

Dec 30th, 2006
Vancouver, BC
www.mawovancouver.org

On December 30th, 2006, Saddam Hussein was executed by hanging in an Iraq occupied by 150,000 US troops. This death sentence was handed down on November 5th, after an illegitimate and flawed trial. The trial was a farce and a spectacle. Three judges were dismissed in this trial for being too mindful of the rights of Saddam. Three of the defense lawyers were assassinated. The final leg of the trial left the defendant with no lawyer at all (except for a court appointed lawyer which he refused). The trial itself was focused on the execution of a group of relatively isolated assassination-conspirators which Saddam ordered. It drew all attention away from the much more revealing massacres carried out with US and UK knowledge and support – such as the war imposed on Iran in 1980 that resulted in more than one million deaths, the mass murders of Iraqi Kurds in 1982, the carpet bombing of army deserters in 1983, the 1988 massacre of Kurds in Halabja, or the massacre of Kurds and Shi’ia Iraqis in 1991, all with US-supplied planes, helicopters and bombs. Now, as of the early hours of December 30th, justice for these US/UK-backed crimes will follow Saddam Hussein to the grave.

This was not a trial carried out by the efforts of Iraqi people. As such, this was not a punishment carried out by the Iraqi people. Not only has the US-led occupation stolen the sovereignty of Iraq, it has also denied the Iraqi people their right to realize justice for the crimes of Saddam Hussein. Less than 24 hours after the execution, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many other human rights and civil rights organizations condemned this flawed and corrupt trial.

The US has tried to justify this execution as being the removal of the root of evil in Iraq, and a step to the liberation of Iraqi people. In reality the execution is the removal of a former US-puppet who carried out massacres and atrocities with the intelligence, funding, and direct support of various US administrations. The execution of Saddam by the US was the punishment for a disobedient servant, carried out by his master.

The root of evil – of destruction, suffering, humiliation, poverty, occupation and death – in Iraq is not in the hands of one man. The US/UK occupation of Iraq has brought the deaths of more than 655,000 Iraqis. It has brought the death of nearly 3300 occupation soldiers, 3000 of those US. It has brought the greatest injustices to the Iraqi people. For three years now, the US has had Saddam (“the root of all evil”) in jail, and still life has worsened for Iraqis. On Dec 29th, a poll was released by Iraq Centre for Research and Strategic Studies stating that 90% of Iraqis surveyed said that life was better under Saddam than it is today under US/UK occupation. By what logic can the US claim that life will improve for Iraqis all because now Saddam has made the journey from a jail cell to a grave?!

The only way that Iraqis can realize justice against the crimes of Saddam Hussein, would be through a sovereign trial, in a sovereign court, in a sovereign country. Then Iraqi people would have the just opportunity to expose his record of crimes. And only then could the Iraqi people expose the depths of US collaboration in these crimes. Furthermore, true justice can only be realized if the Iraqi people could demand the trial and sentencing of not only one little Saddam, but every US leader who has Iraqi blood on their hands. The Iraqi people could not only sentence the Iraqi President, but also President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair, who themselves stand on the bones of more than 655,000 Iraqis - and counting.

Mobilization Against War & Occupation (MAWO) condemns the execution of Saddam Hussein as a corrupt maneuver by the imperialist occupation to lay all of the crimes into Saddam’s hands alone. We condemn the brutal, illegitimate and illegal occupation-run court that handed down this sentence. We stand in solidarity with Iraqi people. We stand in solidarity with their demand for self-determination and their right to justice - not only against Saddam, but against the decades of US and UK-backed atrocities against them. Ultimately, no justice will ever be realized in Iraq until the end to the US/UK war and occupation. US/UK OUT OF IRAQ! SELF-DETERMINATION FOR IRAQ NOW!

[Webber]

Originally Posted by Junglist

I heard Sadam had a small penis, but after watching that video, it appeared he was well hung

lol :(

[FireWire]

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?click...7650911627B212

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

The Judges were trained by the U.S. in Law etc. But it wasn't a US Court that tried him. It was Iraqi.

So basically, if you say Capital Punishment isn't just EVER... what were we to do with the Nazis at the Nürnberg Trials? I suppose it's okay to let the perpatrators of 6,000,000+ Deaths of Jewish People ALO...

errr..beg yer pardon sirr, just that, well, that number has never actually been proven.

Contrary to popular beli...



OMG AN ANTI-SEMITE!!

SMITE HIM DOWN!!!

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

I don't care, he's hung. Just means less shit to watch on TV now.

He had his own TV show?

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

History isn't written or even determined by the Losers.

To the Winners go the spoils and the fame.

More need to acknowledge this... *bows head*


***

From the common Iraqi people's point of view Saddam is
(or was) the beloved national hero of Iraq who liberated
them from the British Empire. He fathered a nation which was,
until it was bombed back to the stone age, literally, the
most secular, advanced and modern nation of the arab world.
He was a leader of the "strongman" type, ie he destroyed
his enemies and crushed rebellion (kinda like l'il bushy jr).
This is not any more and considerably less brutal than
any other regime in history.

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

OMG AN ANTI-SEMITE!!

SMITE HIM DOWN!!!

Anti Semite?! lol

My Roomate of almost a Year happens to be pretty damn Jewish actually. So I'd hardly say I'm Anti-Semitic. My Girl is also 1/2 and I helped with the lighting of the Menorah during Hanukkah. :)

[mekim]

^^^ markpaul was referring to himself in that post. no bonus points for you.

[djmarkpaul]

Hardly a liable alibi, the doctor strangelove pic has given you clearly away.

Fershtanten?

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by mekim

^^^ markpaul was referring to himself in that post. no bonus points for you.

shhhhh

[christoqher]

This thread is retarded simply because of the fact that its based around media intelligence.
what an oxymoron
- pukes