UFO over Chicago O'Hare airport...

[mekim]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

A picture of the alleged craft:




Being digital format one can't truly be sure, but it does look convincing enough. Something more detailed would be nice, this might just be the said hole in the overcast. If that's the case, nothing conventional did this that's for sure.

Is it just me or does it seem really naive/arrogant to assume what a completely alien civilization would do as a means to open contact to our race? I would think they are smart enough to not want to cause a panic and generally would practice non-interference so as not to upset our own evolutionary process.

More open sightings like the Battle of LA and the saucers over the whitehouse really seemed to cause a stir, causing a panic would be about the worst way to break the ice if you ask me.

would you say that image is from a source as reliable or more reliable as most of the news stories you post?

[wishbone]

while i'm at it, this is the only current photos of the o'hare craft that hasn't been disproven yet.




this one:


was debunked with the original here:

[-evil-duerr-]

photo/video evidence may have been enough 50 years ago, but with todays editing technology- the only reliable proof is seeing it for yourself with other witnesses (other witnesses just in case you suffer from hallucinations).

[*SunShyne*]

meh, i still don't believe it.

1) why would "aliens" come to
a) Chicago and
b) at an airport

2) why the USA?

3) I agree with whomever mention that they would "let us know" they're coming... they would let us know... somehow... and just popping into our atmosphere just for shits n giggles

4) PEOPLE WILL SAY/DO ANYTHING TO GET ON TV

[b0ld]

Do UFO's exist.... of course.... are all ufo's "out of this world" maybe maybe not.... Is there life beyond earth... outside our solar system... universe... etc.... Of course.

To try and say "we are alone" out there is pure nonesense and stupidty no if's and puts about it... Is this "life" of a human form or smaller or bigger... Who knows...Have them come to visit "planet earth?".... Personally I think that what ever life is out there has never come down to planet earth in what ever "vehicle" they may use. The fact of the matter is that there are alot of military projects out there that occur without the public being warned about. And alot of people mistaken alot of things to be considered as a "UFO" but keep in mind the term "UFO" is for "Unidentified Flying Object" . So that can represent anything that would have uncharacteristic markings that we don't normally see in the sky...

To give you an example of some of the technologies that government agencies are producing... Nasa is currently developing what they call a "Warp Engine". This engine would enable a space craft to go from earth to mars in a period of 2 hours where normally it would take in upwards of 16 months to get to the red planet with the current technology that have used to send rovers or satellites to...

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

genius isn't a phenomenon.
It's a combination of good genes and unusual brain chemistry.

and when they start taking drugs, they're called artists.
ha ha ha ha

well sure very smart humans can come about from good genes and unusual brain chemistry, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talkin about all these kids who are emerging with past memories of where they came from and even in some cases mothers who remember being modified then having unusually gifted children.

There are scientists and what not all over the world who are studying this indigo/starseed phenomenon, seeing different and repeating DNA patterns that are proving to be missing links in human development.

"It has been shown that contact experience is an inter-generational one and that such children appear to be more intelligent, exhibit extraordinary psychic and intuitive abilities and have knowledge that they have not consciously learnt. Ufology research shows that consistent genetic lines play an important factor in this phenomenon."

"Dr Leir has based his statement not only on research into alien implants but from his observations of children. Comparing today’s statistics on the developmental stages in young children to forty years ago (when such records and studies began) he discovered that the level of higher psychological functioning in some cases was increased by as much as much as 80%. The question is, how could this happen? Dr Leir: ‘I suggest that the answer involves alien manipulation of human genetics’(The Aliens and the Scalpel, p.192)."

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by b0ld

To give you an example of some of the technologies that government agencies are producing... Nasa is currently developing what they call a "Warp Engine". This engine would enable a space craft to go from earth to mars in a period of 2 hours where normally it would take in upwards of 16 months to get to the red planet with the current technology that have used to send rovers or satellites to...

^that solves the problem of getting to Mars quickly...will the warp engine be used in getting back to Earth, or will the shuttle or whatever spacecraft be used will use its own thrusters?

[Antenna_Boy]

The Navigator good movie!!!

[*SunShyne*]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

The Navigator good movie!!!

Holy crap!!! !I was obsessed with that movie when I was a kid!

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

well sure very smart humans can come about from good genes and unusual brain chemistry, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talkin about all these kids who are emerging with past memories of where they came from and even in some cases mothers who remember being modified then having unusually gifted children.

There are scientists and what not all over the world who are studying this indigo/starseed phenomenon, seeing different and repeating DNA patterns that are proving to be missing links in human development.

"It has been shown that contact experience is an inter-generational one and that such children appear to be more intelligent, exhibit extraordinary psychic and intuitive abilities and have knowledge that they have not consciously learnt. Ufology research shows that consistent genetic lines play an important factor in this phenomenon."

"Dr Leir has based his statement not only on research into alien implants but from his observations of children. Comparing today’s statistics on the developmental stages in young children to forty years ago (when such records and studies began) he discovered that the level of higher psychological functioning in some cases was increased by as much as much as 80%. The question is, how could this happen? Dr Leir: ‘I suggest that the answer involves alien manipulation of human genetics’(The Aliens and the Scalpel, p.192)."

there is one hole in this theory.

What happens to these children when they grow up? Who are these people? What are they doing? How does the government react? Why is this kind of information only disclosed on the space channel's "paranormal activity" shows that air at 4:00am?

To me that quote sounds like a couple quacks trying to sell a shadey book.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

Holy crap!!! !I was obsessed with that movie when I was a kid!

I know!!! However, that spacecraft reminded me of the nerf football for some reason

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

there is one hole in this theory.

What happens to these children when they grow up? Who are these people? What are they doing? How does the government react? Why is this kind of information only disclosed on the space channel's "paranormal activity" shows that air at 4:00am?

To me that quote sounds like a couple quacks trying to sell a shadey book.

Governments like to supress these subjects. 'They' are brought here to try and elevate the level of consciousness / awareness/understanding/spirituality of humans. Sorta like how Djmarkpaul tries and tries but everyone disregards his views.

Hey man believe whatever you like, I'm just throwing it out there. It's not just disclosed on paranormal activity shows at 4am, infact I don't think this particular subject gets talked about on those types of shows. There are however lots of books, articles, etc Even a spoof about it on an ABC show where they interviewed a couple families like I said. It's *just* startin to surface in the mainstream. Maybe try looking at things with an open mind instead of an ego.

"Star children have a sense of mission or higher purpose.
Dual consciousness; feeling part human and part extraterrestrial.
Awareness of past lives.
Highly intelligent.
Often very creative."


etc etc
I don't believe it because I read it or somethin. I just compare all the things they talk about to my own life, like vivid past life memories, being 'visited' and told I wasn't from earth, high intuition/creativity at a young age. etc Im not tryin to sound conceited here just personal experience.

Geez I feel like such a nerd I always laugh at the people who make such long winded responses. Anyway I'll leave it at that!

[-evil-duerr-]

^i know what your saying man, but I like to play devils advocate.

[.Ice]

light shows? if they can travel through our satelites un-sean, youd think they can hide themselfs better than to use lights in the night to scan for info, or even show up on populated areas in day light, being easily seen from ground level?

probably a new plane, the billions bush is pilling into the army, created and being tested. dont get me wrong, they already have non-radar detectable aircraft, maybe they just wanted to double test on a new peice of machinery.

other than all this, i dont think the us government will leak any info, they will keep doing what they do best: scapegoats and propaganda. this is just as bad planning as 9/11.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by .Ice

light shows? if they can travel through our satelites un-sean, youd think they can hide themselfs better than to use lights in the night to scan for info, or even show up on populated areas in day light, being easily seen from ground level?

probably a new plane, the billions bush is pilling into the army, created and being tested. dont get me wrong, they already have non-radar detectable aircraft, maybe they just wanted to double test on a new peice of machinery.

other than all this, i dont think the us government will leak any info, they will keep doing what they do best: scapegoats and propaganda. this is just as bad planning as 9/11.

(sp) satelites = satellites
(sp) un-sean = unseen
(pn) youd = you'd
(sp) themselfs = themselves
(sp) pilling = piling

damn spelling mistakes! sorry, I just couldn't help myself :( lol

[.Ice]

out of all the thing's you could have said...
i did not see that coming!

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by .Ice

light shows? if they can travel through our satelites un-sean, youd think they can hide themselfs better than to use lights in the night to scan for info, or even show up on populated areas in day light, being easily seen from ground level?

probably a new plane, the billions bush is pilling into the army, created and being tested. dont get me wrong, they already have non-radar detectable aircraft, maybe they just wanted to double test on a new peice of machinery.

other than all this, i dont think the us government will leak any info, they will keep doing what they do best: scapegoats and propaganda. this is just as bad planning as 9/11.

It's sorta like what markpaul said, they are blatantly showing themselves more and more in public areas in order to "ease" humans into figuring out what's going on. If they just all landed 1 day and said "HEY we are here influencing your planet, deal with it" it would cause complete chaos.

Some people believe there will be more and more public sightings like this, then 1 day an event/big landing will transpire with media coverage to really tell ppl what's going on. <- This is simply theory/heresay of course. hah

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by wishbone

hoax, original image:

Thnx for the debunk, I'm always suspicious of anything digital, it can look convincing but that means just about shit all these days with photoshop et al.


Some interesting responses I will get back to later, big ups to the flight of the navigator and for now, just a general response to those saying why would some civilization waste their time just mulling around at an airport to make a contact, it actually makes more sense when you consider:

*This is definetly not the only sign, ancient and modern history is filled with compelling evidence that can proove an extra terrestrial presence, and it's role in our societies development (multiple ancient texts spanning the globe alluding in detail of said contacts, all with many correspondences despite the timeframe, as well as 1000s of highly credible ex agents of special ops/black ops programs willing to testify under oath in their respective governments about these matters). The onus is up to the individual to make sense of this, we can't expect some other race to baby this knowledge to us.

* Anything experimental that Boeing/Lockheed Martin or any other aerospace giant entwined in the military industrial complex does, does so in complete secracy and maintains that secract for the purpose of national security, as was the case back in 1962 for the Lenticular Reentry Vehicle, which eventually got leaked due to the freedom of information act (source: http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...w/1281221.html )

* Conventional aircraft don't punch neat holes into an otherwise clouded overcast

* If one day humans were to visit technologically less developed societies, an airport seems to be a good place to gauge the psychological impact a sighting were to have on the inhabitants of the region, both due the setting and the amount of individuals present. In most cases people that see ufos in a rather public area are surprised that when there are no corraborating reports, it's just that somehow, when you have more witnesses, people are going to take you more seriously. Especially if they have experience dealing with convention craft, have the credentials to distinguish them, and see it in broad day light no more than 1000-1500 feet away

* There have been a rash of sightings to follow in the windy city, multiple witnesses in each case

Let's keep in mind too, most people don't look for these things. When you are at an airport however, you can't help but look at the landing strips, planes arriving/departing and the like.

[wishbone]

djmarkpaul goes on my list of people to meet, only so i can secretly get out my nerdy desire to talk about ufology.

[Serotonin]

my favorite sci fi theory has a zentraudi ship crash landing on macross island.

[mojo]

I believe. Simply based on the vastness of the universe and tons of alien movies growing up.