USA declares War on Raves!!

[Sir_K]

that'll change, a know of a crazy crew of coquitlam people who have something up their sleves. give us a month or two to get things organised. probably after imperial 4...old school style bwoy

Thats good.

DIVERSITY IS THE KEY TO A VIBRANT SCENE.

[rawb]

Originally posted by Sir_K:


Thats good.

DIVERSITY IS THE KEY TO A VIBRANT SCENE.

THANKS DAD.

when you bringing out the noiscore dj?

[Guice_39]

Originally posted by Dj Parker:


If you read the post i was not hating on the rave scene, I was hating on the party scene. Two seperate things. The party scene sucks, pure and simple. And how do the people on F&K keep the scene going strong, u guys buy all the tickets 4 every party? Well I guess you can cause they don't happen as often when the party scene was at its height (1999-2000?). So in other words keep up the good work in keeping non-alcohol, strict searches, all night dance parties(again, where's the beer?) going strong in Vancouver!

Yeah you got a point, the rave scene was better in 99 and 00. All the parties' dj line-ups were way better. But its still going and someone like me who loves the music (especially breaks) doesn't really care how much it has changed. I still have a good time whether alcohol or not. And as far as the searches go, I've never had any problem getting drugs inside the party.

[Dj Parker]

Originally posted by Guice_39:



Yeah you got a point, the rave scene was better in 99 and 00. All the parties' dj line-ups were way better. But its still going and someone like me who loves the music (especially breaks) doesn't really care how much it has changed. I still have a good time whether alcohol or not. And as far as the searches go, I've never had any problem getting drugs inside the party.

Hey that's great that your still going because u love the music, but the vibe is missing from these parties. The vibes at some club nights can be so good! You missed the point about the alcohol and strict searches. I was being a bit sarcastic that these parties can happen cause there is no alcohol and strict searches when it obvious that most people are getting fucked up. If there was alcohol at these parties maybe the gov. would be more relaxed when it came to these events.

PS
Wow How Did U get DRUGS into a RAVE? U Must be Soooo SMART!
(now that's sarcasim)
:120:

[Jrin]

I haven't paying that much attention to that Federal RAVE asct thing. I've been more concerned about a new stupid law the State Senate just passed here in California. We're still fighting this.

Heads up everyone! Look at what has already passed unanimously through the California Assembly and is now on the way to the Senate...
The last paragraph of this article states that the bill's supporters intend to NOT allow groups like DanceSafe to work inside of raves any longer!

This is CLEARLY a violation of constitutional rights and counterproductive to the supposed intention of the bill - "to protect our children".

It's time to act! I'll be posting up a letter, and link shortly for you all to voice your opposition to this legislation to your State Senator.

4. Rave Regulation Bill Passes California Assembly on Unanimous Vote, Heads for Senate

A bill that would force rave promoters to certify that they are familiar with illegal drugs and how to prevent their use at the popular electronic music events has
passed the California Assembly on a 79-0 vote. Now it is headed for action in the state Senate. The bill authored by Rep. Nancy Havice (D-Bellflower) would also
impose unprecedented regulatory restrictions on raves in the state. It is formally supported by Attorney General Bill Lockyer, the California Narcotics Officers Association (which is identified as a "sponsor" in a February legislative analysis), the California State
Sheriffs' Association, the California Peace Officers' Association and Los Angeles Deputy Sheriffs, Inc.

AB 141, the innocuously named "act to add Section 53087.6 to the Government Code, relating to law enforcement," includes the following provisions, as listed in the Legislative Analyst's office's review of
the legislation:

"Establishes requirements for issuing a local permit for a "rave party," defined as an electronic music dance event that may be attended by 500 or more persons. "Requires a local permit granting authority to notify
the local law enforcement agency when it is considering a permit for a rave party.
"Requires a promoter applying for a permit for a rave party to: Submit the application for the permit at least 30 days in advance; Notify local law enforcement of its application; Include in the permit application a list of all of the
rave applications the promoter has submitted in the past; Present evidence showing the promoter is knowledgeable
about illegal drugs and drug paraphernalia and can recognize the presence of drugs at a rave; Acknowledge in writing that the promoter will not permit, condone, or ignore violations of state and local laws relating to drugs and drug paraphernalia at the rave." "It is my sincere belief that our children are facing an ever-changing and often dangerous world. In authoring this bill, I know I am doing my part to help
protect all children by limiting our children's access to drugs," said Assemblywoman Havice in the bill's
analysis section.

Civil and cognitive liberties groups and rave fans don't deny that drug use, especially of MDMA (ecstasy), exists at raves, but say that the bill infringes on
civil rights of promoters and event-goers alike. The Southern California ACLU, for example, initiated an Internet-based campaign to block what it called an
"anti-rave, anti-free speech bill."

"[The bill] picks out one type of speech event, a rave, and makes it harder to hold one than to hold another similar event, such as a wedding party, a folk music
festival, or a religious concert," the group wrote at its campaign web site http://ga1.org/campaign/rave_rights/ . "It is not the government's job to judge what kind of music people should listen to, what kind of clothes and accessories they should wear, or what kind of dance party they can
attend," contended the Southern California ACLU.

Assemblywoman Havice's spokesman Carlos Benilla told the University of Southern California newspaper the Daily Bruin "we're not targeting a specific kind of music; we're targeting a specific kind of activity that is taking place."

One Trojan, USC musicology grad student and electronic music fan Griffin Woodworth, told the Daily Bruin he feared the bill would have a negative impact on the music. He acknowledged drug use at raves, but said that was no reason to legislate against a certain style of music. "Drugs do not make the music, and music does not cause the drugs," Woodworth said.

And if Havick hopes that her bill will "protect all children," it may have the opposite effect. "Harm reduction" groups, such as DanceSafe http://www.dancesafe.org , which provides pill testing and other services at raves, would not be allowed to do their work at permitted events, the bill's supporters said.

The bill is awaiting committee assignment in the Senate. The legislative session ends August 31. Given the overwhelming support for the bill in the Assembly,
the best bet for opponents may be to let the bill die a quiet death by inaction in committee.

To view the text, history, and various analyses of the bill, go to http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm and type in "AB1941."

[Sir_K]

You missed the point about the alcohol and strict searches. I was being a bit sarcastic that these parties can happen cause there is no alcohol and strict searches when it obvious that most people are getting fucked up. If there was alcohol at these parties maybe the gov. would be more relaxed when it came to these events.

Thats my point exactly. What, do we think that the government is stupid? Taunt them and they'll play hardball - which is whats going on right now.

As for *core events like noizecore, hardcore, acidcore, and experimental, just because I dont throw any events specifically for these genres doesnt mean that I dont beleive diversity is key. Other people who love this music are throwing events of these genres, and again, that's good. DIVERSITY IS KEY.

[galaxie]

Last time I checked, "underground rave parties" were illegal, anyways.

This is no big deal, all it means is that the US scene will go back underground again, just like ours has in the last little while.

I don't see why people start freaking out about this and thinking that it's going to have "A HUGE EFFECT IN CANADA." It's just not logical because if the cops find out about an illegal party they're most likely going to shut it down regardless.

[Guice_39]

^^^ LOL:smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke: :smoke:

Don't remember freaking out when I said "You know this will have a huge affect on Canada"

[Guice_39]

That would be dope if more and more underground parties happend.

[sNyx]

Originally posted by MC Hammered:
Another reason why I'm happy to be Canadian.

I second that.