|
|||||||
| Coffee Lounge Talk amongst other community members. |
 |
|
|
LinkBack | Topic Tools | Rate Topic |
Jul 07, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
USA declares War on Raves!!
Those darned rave promoters are as bad as those terrorists, its enough to have a full out was against them!
________________________________ 107th CONGRESS 2d Session S. 2633 To prohibit an individual from knowingly opening, maintaining, managing, controlling, renting, leasing, making available for use, or profiting from any place for the purpose of manufacturing, distributing, or using any controlled substance, and for other purposes. IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES June 18, 2002 Mr. BIDEN (for himself and Mr. GRASSLEY) introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To prohibit an individual from knowingly opening, maintaining, managing, controlling, renting, leasing, making available for use, or profiting from any place for the purpose of manufacturing, distributing, or using any controlled substance, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act of 2002' or the `RAVE Act'. SEC. 2. FINDINGS. Congress finds the following: (1) Each year tens of thousands of young people are initiated into the drug culture at `rave' parties or events (all-night, alcohol-free dance parties typically featuring loud, pounding dance music). (2) Some raves are held in dance clubs with only a handful of people in attendance. Other raves are held at temporary venues such as warehouses, open fields, or empty buildings, with tens of thousands of people present. (3) The trafficking and use of `club drugs', including 3, 4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine (Ecstasy or MDMA), Ketamine hydrochloride (Ketamine), Flunitrazepam (Rohypnol), and Gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB), is deeply embedded in the rave culture. (4) Many rave promoters go to great lengths to try to portray their events as alcohol-free parties that are safe places for young adults to go to dance with friends, and some even go so far as to hire off-duty, uniformed police officers to patrol outside of the venue to give parents the impression that the event is safe. (5) Despite such efforts to convince parents that raves are safe, promotional flyers with slang terms for Ecstasy or pictures of Ecstasy pills send the opposite message to teenagers, and in effect promote Ecstasy along with the rave. According to the National Drug Intelligence Center, raves have become little more than a way to exploit American youth. (6) Because rave promoters know that Ecstasy causes the body temperature in a user to rise and as a result causes the user to become very thirsty, many rave promoters facilitate and profit from flagrant drug use at rave parties or events by selling over-priced bottles of water and charging entrance fees to `chill-rooms' where users can cool down. (7) To enhance the effects of the drugs that patrons have ingested, rave promoters sell-- (A) neon glow sticks; (B) massage oils; (C) menthol nasal inhalers; and (D) pacifiers that are used to combat the involuntary teeth clenching associated with Ecstasy. ( Ecstasy is the most popular of the club drugs associated with raves. Thousands of teenagers are treated for overdoses and Ecstasy-related health problems in emergency rooms each year. The Drug Abuse Warning Network reports that Ecstasy mentions in emergency visits grew 1,040 percent between 1994 and 1999. (9) Ecstasy damages neurons in the brain which contain serotonin, the chemical responsible for mood, sleeping and eating habits, thinking processes, aggressive behavior, sexual function, and sensitivity to pain. According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse, this can lead to long-term brain damage that is still evident 6 to 7 years after Ecstasy use. (10) An Ecstasy overdose is characterized by an increased heart rate, hypertension, renal failure, visual hallucinations, and overheating of the body (some Ecstasy deaths have occurred after the core body temperature of the user goes as high as 110 degrees, causing all major organ systems to shutdown and muscles to breakdown), and may cause heart attacks, strokes, and seizures. SEC. 3. OFFENSES. (a) IN GENERAL- Section 416(a) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 856(a)) is amended-- (1) in paragraph (1), by striking `open or maintain any place' and inserting `open, lease, rent, use, or maintain any place, whether permanently or temporarily,'; and (2) by striking paragraph (2) and inserting the following: `(2) manage or control any place, whether permanently or temporarily, either as an owner, lessee, agent, employee, occupant, or mortgagee, and knowingly and intentionally rent, lease, profit from, or make available for use, with or without compensation, the place for the purpose of unlawfully manufacturing, storing, distributing, or using a controlled substance.'. (b) TECHNICAL AMENDMENT- The heading to section 416 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 856) is amended to read as follows: `SEC. 416. MAINTAINING DRUG-INVOLVED PREMISES.'. (c) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- The table of contents to title II of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse and Prevention Act of 1970 is amended by striking the item relating to section 416 and inserting the following: `Sec. 416. Maintaining drug-involved premises.'. SEC. 4. CIVIL PENALTY AND EQUITABLE RELIEF FOR MAINTAINING DRUG-INVOLVED PREMISES. Section 416 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 856) is amended by adding at the end the following: `(d)(1) Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be subject to a civil penalty of not more than the greater of-- `(A) $250,000; or `(B) 2 times the gross receipts, either known or estimated, that were derived from each violation that is attributable to the person. `(2) If a civil penalty is calculated under paragraph (1)(B), and there is more than 1 defendant, the court may apportion the penalty between multiple violators, but each violator shall be jointly and severally liable for the civil penalty under this subsection. `(e) Any person who violates subsection (a) shall be subject to declaratory and injunctive remedies as set forth in section 403(f).'. SEC. 5. DECLARATORY AND INJUNCTIVE REMEDIES. Section 403(f)(1) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 843(f)(1)) is amended by striking `this section or section 402' and inserting `this section, section 402, or 416'. SEC. 6. SENTENCING COMMISSION GUIDELINES. The United States Sentencing Commission shall-- (1) review the Federal sentencing guidelines with respect to offenses involving gamma hydroxybutyric acid (GHB); (2) consider amending the Federal sentencing guidelines to provide for increased penalties such that those penalties reflect the seriousness of offenses involving GHB and the need to deter them; and (3) take any other action the Commission considers necessary to carry out this section. SEC. 7. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS FOR A DEMAND REDUCTION COORDINATOR. There is authorized to be appropriated $5,900,000 to the Drug Enforcement Administration of the Department of Justice for the hiring of a special agent in each State to serve as a Demand Reduction Coordinator. SEC. 8. AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS FOR DRUG EDUCATION. There is authorized to be appropriated such sums as necessary to the Drug Enforcement Administration of the Department of Justice to educate youth, parents, and other interested adults about the drugs associated with raves sheesh AGROout 
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
||||
|
||||
|
so ur telling me all raves in the us are now illegal?
one more question what is the usual core body temp. ?
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
heh thats enuff of a science leson for today. shiieeet
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
i'm kinda happy to see the government taking some serious action like this... but i'm sure ravers will just see this as "one more law to break" and thus it'll be even more fun/risque for them, oooh the excitement of teenage rebellion *swallow*...
and just think... with laws like these, there's no way a promoter's gonna be able to charge $60 to get in you in a venue with 10,000 other lemmings... i'm only scared about the DEA funding part... they're pretty power-trippy enough as it is... they have a few agents and dogs at the border at least once a month and they can be MEGA-ASSHOLES if you don't share your bud with them...
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: USA declares War on Raves!!
This Act may be cited as the `Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to Ecstasy Act of 2002' or the RAVE ACT.
oh thats cute...  so... when does this come to effect?
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Another reason why I'm happy to be Canadian.
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
i also like how they left the offense pretty open, so tecnically i could get arrested for throwing a house party where i know people will be smoking ganj at.
|
|
Jul 08, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
promoters will take their parties to alabama bomb shelters and run down missile silos in friggin' corn fields... bring a white plastic spoon and $10US at the 'door', $5 for refugee all-stars -- bring ur own damn water or die... just think, with these laws, ravers will be even more hardcore than ever... soon there will be rave ghettos and there will be dj's getting shot and faking their deaths... and soon P Diddy will try and market the scene and kill off artists under his label and write sad trance songs in memorial of scotty ohwhat'supdawg!... laws are cool because it gives thugs a chance to prove themselves to their leader OK. w0rd up, i raved last nite, let me in your possee AAIIIGHT 'E'... str8 up ballin' homoboy comin' frum E-labama
|
|
Jul 10, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
It's unfortunate that it has to come to this, but these are the consequences of the rave culture embracing drugs, without even making an attempt at curbing or not condoning drug use.
ie.: Cur-E-ous Funk-E-licious This kind of thing has been going on all over the place in Canada and the USA. Not a hack in any way to the promoters who threw those parties, its the culture itself. Not that barstars are the most healthy crowd to bring into raves, but barring alchohol and targeting minors with names like that, and the majority of the voting polulation (Baby Boomers, 65% of the North American population being over age 45) not oblivious to drug use (they were the hippies) being older and wiser than we've given them credit for, see this rave culture as an unhealthy drug-culture. Hell, they only smoked pot, drank and did mushrooms and sometimes acid. Cocaine even didnt blow up until the late 60's or early 70's and MDA was just a fringe experimental drug throughout that time. It's not like we as North American rave culture have been giving them (governments) any excuse to keep going. Magic Mountain-like events are a start, but it's too little too late. More beer gardens, stricter age limits, some sort of an excuse as to why people are there other than the *painfully* obvious drug usage would have made it a bit easier for municipal, provincial, state and federal governments to bend a little. In order to keep our scene, we've got to clean it up and at least make it *seem* like it's above the board to those outside. Some have done this and most have not. Now the governments are on the offensive, and we've got to show them we're willing to work with them. I know 55 year old men who know why ravers have soothers in their mouth and wear masks and that they put vicks vapo rub in them and blablabla. Once it hits that level, game over. Those people are parents of raving-aged children/teenagers, and they vote and they're the majority of the population in North America right now. I didnt see anything in that bill that was untrue or misleading other than the "ecstacy" overdoses. And core body temperature is 98.7 'F, or 37.6'C. If it rises to 109'F or 39.5'C you can easily die.
|
|
Jul 10, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Yes.. but then they'd cease to be raves. Raves started as an alternative lifestyle, not just another afterhours party. I know you're trying to "revolutionize" and "globalize" raves, but as soon as you try to cash in on the mainstream or make them acceptable to everyone or bring in da' booze making the age limit 19, you cease to have a rave. It's a bitch like that, huh?
|
|
Jul 10, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
Jul 11, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Keeping the cliche has a very high price associated with it - the death of the entire scene. If we foster a more mainstream, responsible scene, the cliche underground parties will be able to operate in the shadows, which is exactly where they started.
Dont work with governments, and the cost is astronimical: A well funded special task force shutting everything down with undercovers scanning boards like this and befriending people shutting down everything past 2am.
|
|
Jul 11, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
no one cares, were safe, we only have to worry about people like you allowing the scene to be legislated out of existance. i don't think we'll be seeing a rave gestapo any time soon. heh, like they could ever stop us.
|
|
Jul 11, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
Jul 11, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Hey I just wanted to remind everbody that "raves suck". Actually their not even "raves" anymore and havn't been for a while. They are called Parties, and they suck really really really bad!
Raves still do happen and can be good. These raves will still continue to go on, no matter what laws are put into effect. Anywhere. Anyways these parties suck so why even give a fuck. Oh ya underground raves, saftey blablabla no water=death. Well then don't do drugs and if u are, know what you are doing (do you even then?) and be prepared. PS. I know this will make it harder for dj's to get gigs but the party scene will grow up and die(look across the atlantic and south). I just hope that the drinking laws loosen up more. Bring on the SuperClubs!!!!!!!
|
|
Jul 11, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
fucking fuck ass fuck
$250,000; or
`(B) 2 times the gross receipts, either known or estimated, that were derived from each violation that is attributable to the person. does this mean that the penalty for being held responsible for this environment is either 250 grand or twice what you made on the rave? or is this just a sub ass rape section (assassinate the president) of some other (kill methamphetamine president kill assassinate the president kill kill kill) long list of jail shit and shit... not really junderstoond it all but whatever i hope the war on raves goes as well as the war on drugs is, maybe we will even all get kill the president kill the president meth lab crack crack heroin kill the president. fuck the CIA as well. kill the CIA vice president kill the vice president.
|
|
Jul 12, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Parker:
My sentiments exactly. It ain't 1993 anymore, nobody breaks into warehouses and throws "raves" as they really started anymore. Thats the underground and it will still happen if we have a vibrant scene overall, like 150,000 electronic music fans in Vancouver. We have to embrace DIVERSITY to keep the scene alive. That means the big colossal mainstream parties, the clubs, the midrange parties, the renegade parties, the beach parties, and everything else that encompasses electronic music. The scene's grown up, times have changed. I doubt that many of the people on this board (myself included, I know I never have) have ever experienced the actual raw-ass rave of breaking into an abandoned warehouse with a generator and setting up a soundsystem and waiting for the cops to bust everybody for B&E & drugs. But I'd best some have... I'd like to hear what they have to say about today's "rave scene". :\
|
|
Jul 12, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
Jul 12, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
this whole post is caught up in the 'electronic scene'. i think were past that. the 'scene' is just a word now. name the similarities between someone at the drink on a friday between some kid going off to hard house at mm6. there are none. they are two totally seperate people into two totally different scenes. people need to start doing what they love over what they think other people would like.
|
|
Jul 12, 02
|
|||
|
|||
|
Quote:
|
|
«
this is neat
|
the lofters
»
|
|
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:41 PM.
