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Sep 14, 02
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rave related article in the richmond news
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drugs = raves ....how sad 
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Sep 14, 02
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Where is page 2??
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Sep 14, 02
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page 2..
kinda ironic how its the riverside party where they found the most shit at... yet it was my first sober riverside party. yay for soberness. ew to drugs.
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Sep 14, 02
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sheesh winston..BE PATIENT~
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Sep 14, 02
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Sorry. :c-tard:
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Sep 14, 02
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another article in another paper. crappy article.
it makes me mad how they make raves sound like an empty drugged up room full of addicts. wut about the music and other stuff?! grrz makes me mad. its publicity like this in the papers that give the whole community a bad reputation.
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Sep 14, 02
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The element of drugs will exist at any rave or similar party... It's funny though how in every single article I read of this nature how it is not compared to other things people to go to. There are more people killed per year/month due to drunk driving afer leaving a club then at raves... There is WAY more violence and drugs done at clubs then at rave-related events and so on... I would love for a reporter to interview me!
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Sep 14, 02
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The problem Kraig is that nightclub incidents don't make good headlines like rave related ones do.
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Sep 14, 02
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When our scene can evolve to the level of TO then the 'all night dance party' will be no longer.
It will just be a special club night. I wish there was a way I could party there each weekend.
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Sep 14, 02
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Werd dude, werd... That or even more so like Montreal!
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Sep 14, 02
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youthink (the bc highschool newspaper) wanted to interview me on my feedback on the rave scene last year, but we lost contact. im not too sure if a highschool newspaper really want to know wut i think of raves..cuz it will jsut attract more teenyboppers. i duno i would really hafta prep every word i say so that i dont regret nething i say.
like i tell my parents..there will always be drugs and it is just up to me to stay away from them. my school has the highest illegal substances rate in richmond.. and i stay away from it all.. the day i pop during class is the day i wanna commit suicide. damn im mature enuff to say no to drugs at certain times. but AT TIMES i do get sucked in.. but as long as i think of the consiquenses its all good. Last edited by bebu*funfun; Sep 14, 02 at 10:49 PM.
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Sep 14, 02
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well all i gotta say is once again i never read ne of this but i think the cops are wasting their time with drug shiit whent there aren bigger problems in the world....like me bein drunk hell ya lolz......ne ways.....I love everybody here i only know like mushmellow but what can u do....by the way mush is my bf....hell ya i love her.....
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Sep 14, 02
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Wow, the scene is dying. With the opening of clubs till 4am. It will change the scene. The idea of partying till 4am is soemthing that many people in Vancouver have thought about but never actually done. Cuz you can only listen to so much hip-hop before you get bored. This is why Vancouver needs a mutli-staged club that plays hip-hop and some kind of electronica (mostly likely house or trance.)
I've been in the scene for over 1 year, and I've been to clubs in TO and MTL. They party hard there and a lot of them are sober. When clubs open till 4am I will be ready. Woot!
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Sep 14, 02
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^i dont noe noe that drunk chick...hahaha...ok i wish i could write an article for a newspaper...because i would be fair and un biased...i dont there is a pretty bad drug problem...but there is nothing any one can do about it...its alwasy goin to be there and the drug abusers are the ones giving us and raves in general all this bad rep....there are way less problems at a rave then there are walking down the scummy streets or vancouver...like...walk down e hastings then walk thru a rave....which seems worse to u...at a rave alot of people may be on drugs but still most of them can handle it and know when to stop....its the people that let there stupidity run there lives that ruin it for us
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Sep 14, 02
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haha ur a lier....but yea.....defenately....ppl who let drugs take over their lives are the ones who fuck it up for the rest of us who arent taht stupid but and the same time they teach us a lesson....cuz if there werent ppl how fuck up their lives using drugs then we would be the ones who do it cuz we wouldnt know ne better.....i dunno something to think about i guess....this world is full of contoversy......
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Sep 15, 02
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well, jen...in a way drugs fucked up your life....and others around u too in a way....it fucked up mine but ive moved away from all that...and i dunno if the rest of the crew has....but seriously think about it....would u be living in maple ridge right now if u didnt fuck up w/ drugs? would i moving out in a month and a half if i didnt do drugs? but at the same time....its changed my life for the good...realizing how much its fucked me up....
this it totally off topic now.....
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Sep 15, 02
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no i agree with u but what i mean is,.... we could be the ones on the street if there werent those ppl before us for us to learn from
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Sep 15, 02
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i agree i agree......most people learn are to stubborn to learn from other mistakes.....i never learn from matts mistakes or any one elses....i have to see for my self...or it doesnt mean anything...i havent done any drugs for 2 and a half months....im trying to quit smoking after 5 years...and i have to do it on my own....multiple people told me not to start but i did n e wayz rite?
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Sep 15, 02
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A few random thoughts...
1. Interesting how in the first article it says "its not correct to call the rave scene a haven for drugs" (2nd page/post/scan, top of third column) and then the second article says " 'Clearly, these raves are a haven for drug traffickers and drug users"' " (1st column, end of second paragraph)...eerie how the phrasing is that similar for opposing points. 2. I've said this before, but the reason that drug-related issues at raves are better 'news' than at bars is that it promotes the scare factor..."look out, all these raves that are all crawling with drugs are all around us and populated with 15 and 16 year old kids - maybe even YOUR KIDS - something must be done to protect the children!"...as opposed to bars where most (aside from illegal IDs) patrons are of legal majority age and aren't considered 'children'. And, flame me if you will, but I think they have a point. Yes, raves are (generally) well supervised, have a good vibe, etc., but honestly, if I was a parent, I don't think I'd want my 15 or 16 year old son or daughter at one...17 perhaps, but it would ultimately turn on my judgement of their maturity and character. And a lot of parents don't know that their kids are at these events...I'd certainly be concerned about that as a parent...not knowing where my kids are, and that they may be in an atmosphere where drugs are not only avaialable, but, on some (not all) levels, their consumption is encouraged if not promoted. Yes, most peeps have a head on their shoulders; yes, a big event still has a very small percentage of medical emergancies; yes, these almost never lead to death BUT there is that chance and this is my child whom I care for and desperately want to protect from harm, at all or nearly all costs. For every "I never take/I stopped taking drugs at parties" post there are lots of people (underage teens, that is) you can see at any large event f*cked up out of their mind. Either some of these posters are lying, or they are the minority, cuz the majority are staring right at me (or is that right through me...?) at parties. No, I'm not usually sober at parties, either...but then again, my high school days are so far behind me that I've been to my 10-year reunion. OK, enough ranting... 3. I like how the first point as to why raves are actually better and safer than other 'teen' events (from bottom of the 1st column of the first article) is their 'smoke free environment', followed by the presence of first aid and security. Keeping weed out of this, does anyone seriously believe that the reason raves are safer environments is that they are smoke free? "Yeah, y'know, this one guy had a gun and actually shot some other guy, I think it was a gang thing...and well, yeah, there were about a dozen waste cases passed out all over the place...I even heard some of them died by morning...but y'know...I really felt safe and secure and in a comfortable environment there cuz no-one was smoking". 4. When will people learn? The only way to get rid of drugs at parties or anywhere else is to reduce demand, not cut off supply. And you don't eliminate demand by scaring the bejeezus out of parents, you do through education of their children. Anyhoo, that's enough for now...I gotta find better things to do on a Saturday night that write long ranting replies...hmmmm...are there any parties going on...I wonder if my dealer is around...
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Sep 15, 02
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Quote from page 2, 8th paragraph: But, said Blessin, with the building and its participants under constant supervision, "Its actually extremely difficult for people to take their drugs."
Bullshit, its so easy to get drugs in and out and do em, except for weed though. No problem gettin it in but to smoke in there you gotta be pretty stealth.
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Sep 15, 02
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The first article really isn't THAt bad. Did all of you even take the time to read it?
It sayd that yes there are people there selling drugs and taking drugs but also pointed out that it's not correct to label the scene as a haven for drugs. Sure there will be people dealing or using but its not the primary focus. It also makes note of how there are more problems at grads, nightclubs etc... Anytime there is an article with the words rave and drugs people jump on it and flip out. How dare they label our scene? This makes all of us look bad. That article is one of the more fact based and un-biased ones I've read in a while actually. It's saying yes there's problems (true), yes thres drugs (true), but this isn't the only place you'll see it and therefeore don't come down on the scene so much (true) So everybody take a deep breath...its all gonna be OK....
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Sep 16, 02
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Are these cops really that dense? I mean, "Trail Mix"??? Sorry guys but cutting E with k, jib, coke, etc is common and has been for years!
Uggggh...they really need to get with the times! I'm going to write a letter to the editor for Wednesday's paper in reply to that column.
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