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Apr 15, 07
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Parents of B.C. sextuplets head back to court
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It's a shame that 2 of their 6 babies had to die because their religion refused life saving medical procedures on these kids. I, for one, believe the world is over-populated as it is, but that is not the issue here. Let's face it folks. One woman having 6 babies at once is pretty overwhelming... I mean, she couldn't have expected all 6 to survive without the help of modern medicine. Were their rights violated? Absolutely. Their religion and their own personal deep beliefs honestly thought that a higher power would care for these children. Basically... it was in God's hands. The doctors started playing "God" as soon as the "ok" was given by the provincial government to take these kids out of their parental care and place them into temporary government custody so that a blood transfusion could be made. This was the violation. At the same time, when a parent willfully endangers (or puts at risk) the life of their child, is it not a crime itself...regardless of religious beliefs? Should the parents not be punished for refusing their child the help they'd need to survive? I mean, every parent wants to see their child grow and learn and strive to achieve more than their parents ever could. Should out-dated (medicinal) religious beliefs risk the lives of children just to satisfy "God"? I'm torn on this one. Thoughts? 
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Apr 15, 07
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I don't understand how anyone can be 'torn' on this subject. Those babies weren't old enough to decide the fate of their lives but I'm almost certain that they would have accepted help if they could have.
They basically denied their children the right to live and they should absolutely be punished for that. It was selfish, and regardless of your belief in 'over-population' I don't believe that any child who is struggling to live should be denied help.
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Apr 15, 07
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They had a US supreme court ruling on this about 60 years ago but it hasn't really stood the test of time as these situations are rarely black and white. On one hand its and awfully dangerous practice to being to interfere with religious rights of minors and the right of their legal guardian, its is just as unacceptable to stand by and let a child die when there is treatment that could certainly help them if not save them. I've had many debates and seen both sides of this argument and its not something that's going to go away any time soon. Religious rights tend to trump anything and everything when pressed. Human history is tarnished with examples of religious persecution and we are quick to bring up these atrocities at the drop of a hat. This is a prime example of that; I am of the view that saving the lives of those babies would not have destroyed their religious well being. Since they were not capable of voicing an opinion on their treatment I think any course of action not aimed to save their lives should have been cast aside. I very much doubt any God would judge one of their followers for the actions of others.
If a stranger were to break your nose without provocation in Church, nobody is going to give you shit for bleeding on the floor.
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It seems so unfair for babies to be dying for a religion that they never even knew! Religion is such a sensitive issue, and usually the right to religion overrides everything. though everyone has a right to live so i think that it is good for the government to step in and save the lives of those babies, because they have a whole life to live ahead of them.. and perhaps even a life that does not even follow that religion
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Sorry, I disagree with one part here. Canada is definitely NOT overpopulated. Also, Canada could really stand to have MORE people making babies, even having more than one at a time because in a few years our death rate may exceed our birth rate. A growing population is healthy! Even if you believe the world itself is 'overpopulated' that does not make it okay that a few newborn babies died. Anyone read the news lately about the development of a form of synthetic blood that could be used for transfusions? I wonder if had that been developed if it would have been okay to use that instead of blood from another human being? I'm not JW so I can't pretend to be an expert on the subject...maybe someone could enlighten me on it. I think it would be amazing if science could manage to do this because it would mean fewer risks with things like tainted blood and the medical system would be able to save lives without trampling on people's beliefs.
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As far as I am concerned, they killed those babies. They could have lived. Now the parents should be punished. I dont believe that they should have the right to be parents.
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Apr 15, 07
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You actually hold compassion for these people? THEY'RE FUCKING BABIES! That may have been the most fucked up thing I've ever heard, Sunshyne. Who gives a fuck what religion they follow? There is one set of rules and guidelines any good person would agree with and that's human fucking decency. What's next? Let a man sacrifice his virgin daughter to Satan because that's his religion? It's ok though, because those babies didn't have a choice either, so why should she? Makes a lot of fucking sense.
These parents deserve to lose their children.
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Apr 16, 07
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I highly doubt these were naturally conceived sextuplets. Maybe it was the will of God for this couple to not have kids in the first place? So they would have had fertility treatments to ensure a pregnancy (doctors' intervening there...).
Given that is most likely the case, I think they should STFU and back down, seeing as the doctors are just trying to save the children they were so insistant on having. Last edited by MissBehavior; Apr 16, 07 at 12:15 PM.
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Apr 16, 07
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^^^ They had "help" getting pregnant.
BS ain't it?
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Parents mistreating children and putting their lives in danger, government should get involved. hands down. no exceptions.
We live in a country with free medicare. There should be no reason that these children shouldn't be getting the things they need to survive. If the parents claim religious reasons, eff them. I could go around killing people claiming I'm a Satanist, it don't make it right.
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Apr 16, 07
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I read a while ago that there were no fertility drugs used. Everything was naturaly, just extremly rare.
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fuck religious tolerance when it comes to the lives of children. i don't care what crazy god you pray to, if your kids are in harms way, you set aside your dumbass beliefs.
things like this piss me off. religious tolerance should come second to human rights...like the right to fucking LIVE, dig?
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