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Old Dec 17, 02
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Elementary teacher gets SEX change!!!

right here in our hometown. What do you guys think? right or wrong


http://canada.com/national/story.asp?id={C63F71D5-F78B-40EB-8572-95A5F45B56AC}
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Old Dec 17, 02
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http://canada.com/vancouver/

oops that links doesn't seem to work try this one.
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Old Dec 17, 02
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what are the parents so afraid of? that they're kids are gonna be like "mommy I wanna get a sex change when I grow up"

kids can be so nasty sometimes, if I were a parent I wouldn't be worried about the kids, but for the teacher who's probably going to get some nasty comments coming their way...
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Old Dec 17, 02
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i think that teacher has a few inner issues to sort out before heading back to the podium...
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Old Dec 17, 02
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I'm sure alot of other teachers and parents will and/or have bitched about it. But i think its fine. If he/she feels that is what they ahve to do, the fact they are a teacher shouldn't make it wrong or bad for them to do that.
the children will need some help understanding and getting through things, or maybe they should just lie and tell them that they ahve a new teacher, depending on the age of the children (i hdont have time to read the article yet) it might just be easier to pretend their teacher is a whle new person instead of trying to explain to them what happened and why.
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Old Dec 17, 02
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teachers (especially elementary school teachers) need to grow more aware of the fact that they set strong examples for the children they teach. if these teachers can't realize that the profession they've chosen puts themselve in a position where they can shape another person's life, then they need to find another damn job. i'm not saying that every teacher should be ned flanders and martha stewart, but we don't want children to have EXTREME influences on their lives. elementary school students are at a fragile age, and (for 1 thing) they don't need to know about sex changes when they're 7-8 years old! elementary school is about developing a child's potential, embracing their gifts and exposing those gifts so they can do something cool in the future. it's not about showing kids about yesterday's taboo and telling them that "this is why your woman teacher has an adam's apple", all that does is point them in 2 directions. 1) "mommy i'm a homo", 2) "mommy i curbed a homo today!".

it may not be fair to tell a teacher what he/she can or cannot do in their private life. BUT it's also not fair to children and their parents to have certain principles and another person's morals poisoning those childrens' minds.

yes, kids do need to know about the birds and the bees. BUT NO, they don't need bird shit in their eyes and bee stings on their asses.
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Old Dec 17, 02
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when i went to riverside secondary in poco, we had a teahcer there who was "mr. erik williams" one year, then the next year he became "ms. erika williams"

the principal told us if anyone made any sort of comment about it, or teased "it", they would be expelled no questions asked.

during that year, no one that i knew of made fun of "it"
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Old Dec 17, 02
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^^was she hot?
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Old Dec 17, 02
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^^was she hot?
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Old Dec 18, 02
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I agree that these children are very impressionable and that teachers have to realize they are a huge influence on these childrens lives and development, but you make a sex change sound like such a horrible thing. Maybe if the children are exposed to stuff like this at a younger, less ignorant age, they will learn that its not such a wierd thing.

Oh and your elementary teacher getting a sex change is NOT going to turn you into a homosexual.
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Old Dec 18, 02
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who cares...we had a teacher who was one of those at our highschool..ms manderson..err anderson
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Old Dec 18, 02
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I had "Mr. Williams" back when i was in grade 8 @ best....and when i first saw "him" at the time i actually thought it was an old women...a really ugly old woman...but woman none the less....needless to say....this was talked about even then and when I had "him" for science again...he left part way through the year for hormone therapy...the teacher that replaced him filled us in on all the details on how he had some weird sexual identity gene problems...for example...he was an old man but he had womens problems like osteoperosis, etc.....so there was some medical illness as a basis for this change. However, it was also a fact that he was married at one time and has fully grown kids.

So this guy basically lived a life as a man, raised children, got divorced and decided he was more of a woman.

and if anyone wonders why i remember all this.....well...wouldnt you?
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Old Dec 18, 02
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Skitzo_style

I had "Mr. Williams" back when i was in grade 8 @ best....and when i first saw "him" at the time i actually thought it was an old women...a really ugly old woman...but woman none the less....needless to say....this was talked about even then and when I had "him" for science again...he left part way through the year for hormone therapy...the teacher that replaced him filled us in on all the details on how he had some weird sexual identity gene problems...for example...he was an old man but he had womens problems like osteoperosis, etc.....so there was some medical illness as a basis for this change. However, it was also a fact that he was married at one time and has fully grown kids.

So this guy basically lived a life as a man, raised children, got divorced and decided he was more of a woman.

and if anyone wonders why i remember all this.....well...wouldnt you?
did you grad centennial? and if so what year.

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Old Dec 18, 02
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Old Dec 18, 02
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i dont see a problem with the change.if a person wants to feel better about themself and a sex change is the only way they will fell like themselfes, then why would it be wrong.
i do agrea that it may be hard on some of the children, but if they have the right ppl teling them abot what is going on and are taught at a young age that some ppl are like that, then when they grow up and have there own kids our worl will be more clear of pregidists sying that its wrong. they will teach there children to see how it is and onderstand it.
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Old Dec 18, 02
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Hmmm...I have a feeling that the children wouldn't be the ones having the problem accepting it...it would be closed minded parents.
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Old Dec 18, 02
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i had a mr. Roberts come back as a ms. roberts
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Old Dec 18, 02
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Skitzo_style

I had "Mr. Williams" back when i was in grade 8 @ best....and when i first saw "him" at the time i actually thought it was an old women...a really ugly old woman...but woman none the less....needless to say....this was talked about even then and when I had "him" for science again...he left part way through the year for hormone therapy...the teacher that replaced him filled us in on all the details on how he had some weird sexual identity gene problems...for example...he was an old man but he had womens problems like osteoperosis, etc.....so there was some medical illness as a basis for this change. However, it was also a fact that he was married at one time and has fully grown kids.

So this guy basically lived a life as a man, raised children, got divorced and decided he was more of a woman.

and if anyone wonders why i remember all this.....well...wouldnt you?

i remember that.. i never had "it" when i went to best but i knew of it. from dwight and my sister.

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Old Dec 18, 02
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This will teach the children to be more accepting in a culture which is literally coming out of the closet. Should we be saying that teachers who are homosexual shouldn't be teaching students, for fear that their 'gayness' would rub off on the children? That's the same as saying we should hire sexually neutral teachers without any specific sexual orientation so as to prevent a specific bias in our schools.

By trying to prevent this teacher from teaching as a man or woman, completely denies their presence in society. It really isn't possible to shelter children, nor should it be anyways. By raising children in a vast sociological environment we raise better rounded people.

You can't catch being homosexual, nor can you catch being straight. It most certainly will not provoke children to become the opposite gender, but will in fact show them that it is acceptable to be who they want to be: gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, straight, transgendered. By having role models like this teacher, show them the importantance of being comfortable with themselves, as opposed to bottling it up and hiding it inside.

Homosexuality is not a poison in today's society. There are people who are comfortable with it and those who are not. By saying that homosexuality (though I believe the case is that of a transgendered teacher) will destroy children's gifts and potential is unfounded. A gay teacher has just as much to offer as a straight teacher. A male teacher has as much to offer as a female teacher.

In the end, what we are doing is opening our children's eyes to what is really happening in society. It certainly isn't Sesame Street or a candy coated version, but the truth.

These children won't remember the time their teacher changed from a man to a woman, but will remember the valuable lessons that were taught.
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Old Dec 18, 02
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i think that teacher has a few inner issues to sort out before heading back to the podium...
very true, as soon as he/she gets back to school, hes gonna have millions of questtions i think from the kids..... did it hurt?
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Old Dec 18, 02
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society is trying to force children think twice before peeing in the sandbox.

children don't need to grow up any faster than they already are. we're all seeing the results of introducing homosexuality, heterosexuality, STDs, etc. into the classroom at such young ages. the result is 10 year old teeny boppers, 11 year old toothpick chicks, and pre-teen thugs. and as the years go by, these kids are getting younger and younger. soon we'll have 6 year olds pushing jib on the playground.

you may not think that introducing a new form of sexual identity into the classroom has any effect on kids like the ones i listed above, and you might not be wrong in a direct sense. but if you look at the big picture; what are they trying to achieve by raising the bar for a child's education? the bottom line is, they're trying to shorten the lifespan of "childhood". the one thing that a lot of people cling onto for the bulk of their lives.

i think we should let children have they're time to be kids. i don't see what the rush is to get kids out of the wading pool and into the ocean.

as dirty fucken ravers, you all should appreciate the joys of being a child. acting like a child, living carefree, having no worries, and so on.

learning about things like a sex change is not going to better anything for a child's development. yes, i think people do need to learn the facts, and grow aware of the world around them. but in elementary school? they're taking enough time away from a child's math lesson to teach them about homosexuality, etc... soon enough we'll have a world full of sex addicts who don't know how to read/write/add/subtract.

elementary school is not about teaching life skills. elementary school is about building a foundation for children's education, so they can be successful in high school, university, and in their professions.

most 8 year old kids aren't even allowed out past dark. so what the fuck do they need to know about the world around them? give them their time to be adolescent. give them a motherfucking nintendo and a treefort. take them on fieldtrips to a freaking zoo and show them how giraffe's scratch their nads. give them $2 a week and watch them go nuts at 7-11. fuck...
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Old Dec 18, 02
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children don't need to grow up any faster than they already are. we're all seeing the results of introducing homosexuality, heterosexuality, STDs, etc. into the classroom at such young ages. the result is 10 year old teeny boppers, 11 year old toothpick chicks, and pre-teen thugs. and as the years go by, these kids are getting younger and younger. soon we'll have 6 year olds pushing jib on the playground.
I wouldn't blame that on the school though, I'd blame that on the parents.


Either way, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
There's seems to have been others who have done the same thing, so just let it go.
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Old Dec 18, 02
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well surrey's a different story.

other kids out there still have a chance OK
we don't need anymore bob's out there.
and definately no more c-tard's...
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Old Dec 18, 02
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WON'T SOMEBODY PLEEEEEASSSE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!
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Old Dec 18, 02
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Haha okay fine.. got me there :P
damn surrey.
and the skanky / thugged out 10 year olds.. who start smokin in grade 4... and fucking around in grade 6.


but anyways, that's off topic..
so.. back to the topic of sexchanges..
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