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Old Dec 12, 07
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so you're ok with it being taxed heavily then? Because I don't think other programs would be willing to fund its safety.

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rather, should there be a service tax specific to prostitute transactions, or a general tax applied to the public to fund such safety programs?
Tax the transactions - heavily!

I'm not gonna pay out of my hard earned salary so other people can pay for sex. If they wanna pay for sex, they can pay the taxes that go along with it - like the extra taxes we car drivers pay for gas. Take the bus, don't pay the gas tax. Buy the gas, pay the tax. Same idea.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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that'd be pretty funny if our tax dollars went to funding for whores.

it'd probably make those gst cheques more interesting.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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How would you claim crack as income though? Would it be calculated in weight, manufacturing cost, or street value? I can just see a hooker going into H&R Block. "I made $21 000 this year, and seven ounces of rock."
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they should make whores a prize on the mcdonalds monopoly. Like instead of free small pop, you can get a free small whore.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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And hiring a hooker for your company Christmas party would be a tax write-off!
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Old Dec 12, 07
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yo didn't jesus kick it with hoes?

I think it's safe to say the Religous Right doesn't really follow many of the lessons laid out in the bible.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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i have always wondered why people who are not supporting a drug habit chose to escort. no matter what you charge its unlikelly that youll be with anyone who is particularly attractive or charming. youre essentially using your pussy or dick as an atm. i think that wound be a really interesting sociology study
Easier than getting a real job?

See: Boondocks S1E03

A ho be a ho.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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its already as legal as it needs to be.
Tell that to the people at the Pickton trial.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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Tell that to the people at the Pickton trial.

even if you make it completely legal, there will still be illegal prostitution going on.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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Have you considered that "heavy" taxation could actually have grave consequence for the safety and security of the sex trade WORKERS, by driving the industry further underground and thus putting at risk the exact women/men who many of you claim should be protected?

It's not very likely that those paying for these services are going to:
a) WANT THEIR SEXUAL TRANSACTIONS RECORDED BY ANY INSTITUTION
b) WANT TO PAY A HEAVY TAX ON SEXUAL SERVICES

Both of these factors may create spaces where sex trade activities go unrecorded and unnoticed by any governmental authority, creating further health, safety and financial security risks for women. Also, taxing the industry may serve only to create a whole new body of "Criminals" - those men and women who evade "taxes" for sexual services. In this sense, de-criminalization is really just a whole new brand of criminalization.

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Here's another perspective you all may not have considered.

Often, jails become safe places for those who work in the sex trade industry - particularly young women. When I volunteerd at the youth jail, I was told that many of the young women at the facility were actually in the jail so that they can be removed from the sex industry and be kept out of the reach of the men who batter them. Often, being instituitonalized is the only chance for these women to improve their lives. This indicates to me that there are not enough social programs which adequately help women to seek shelter from the industry. I think many women would benefit from the creation of more safe places to which they can seek support.

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Old Dec 12, 07
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If prostitution was legalized.. i'd be a poor guy.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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I can see why they would try to kill it, Moral, Religious issues. But That alone will not stop them, like mentioned by someone else before, its the oldest profession in the world, and its not going anywhere. So why not make it safer for those involved. This could also be a step forward in reducing the number of children who get involved nowadays.

I think its a great idea. It's a way to start cleaning up the streets as well. Make our city a little bit nicer. Everyone that walks in and out of that place, will have the same procedure now in place at some clubs, Swipe the ID, take a picture, safety on both ends to make sure nothing like the tragic "Pickton" thing ever happens again.

I agree with most of what you said. But if you look at the poor women that were murdered by him, those arent the types of ladies you will find somewhere like the 'bunny ranch' or any other legal brothel. Most were homeless drug addicts.
Although it can help clean up Seymore i dont for see it cleaning up vancouver much at all.
That aside i do agree though that it should be legalised as many stated its not going to stop, so lets try and atleast make it safer.
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Old Dec 12, 07
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they should make it like amsterdam.
create a district for people who engage in that kind of stuff.
the most important thing regardin prositution isn't money or taxes,
but rather health and safety.
you can't stop the world's oldest profession.
the decent thing to do is for society to manage it as best we can.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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Would you want your daughter to become a prostitute?
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Old Dec 13, 07
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There is no good enough excuse to justify why someone should be whoring themselves.
Totally. I don't get it either.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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^ Neither do I.

These fucking girls go around and sleep with anything and everything , and then they demand equal rights and services as the rest of society working legit jobs and paying tax.
FUCK that!

They ain't paying tax because they make cash , so why the hell should they benefit off anything thats provided by the government? (*cough* healthcare *cough*)
And then to make it worse , they get healthcare covered and when their cooches are all fucking dirtied up by some random dick they screwed , the government pays for their treatment. um hi , how many times are you going to get free pills to treat an STD because you choose a dirty lifestyle , and WE end up paying for that outta our tax money.



Seriously , I hope they make it illegal , and send them all to fucking McDonalds to work like every other human has to or stick them in a closet.
to be honest, they probably have too much pride than to work at mc dees.

but you're right, it is messed up that they get health care. but it's also messed up what they do. if EVERYONE can empathize with their lifestyle (cash in exchange for self-respect) then they're probably in a pretty bad situation and they probably appreciate any help they can get. so.... STFU. seriously.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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I dont think it should be encouraged at all , and I have no pity or mercy on them and if they choose that lifestyle then its their fucking problem and whatever comes to them is in their own fate and help and healthcare shouldn't be available if you want to gamble with your life like that.

There is no good enough excuse to justify why someone should be whoring themselves.

( this post btw , so there isnt any confusion , has nothing to do with Pickton or murdering hookers..this is strictly on hooker lifestyle)

If anything , whores are the real criminals and murderers out there. They spread disease and spread illness and they should be locked up. End of story.
ouch. i can understand where you're coming from and why someone might have those points of view - but thats a little bit harsh, don't you think?

considering the fact that many of the people who end up on the street didn't start off in a fortunate situation (and the people they met through their life either directly or indirectly have influenced them to turn to the street) it's a bit extreme to say that "whores are the real criminals and murderers out there."

imagine a life of feeling trapped, where the only way you can feel better is drugs & or alcohol which you wouldn't be able to afford without submitting to a lifetime full of abuse. the vicious cycle continues.

i think legalisation would be good - the same applies to drugs. the real problem is the black market and the violence and additional crime that comes with it.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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^ Neither do I.

These fucking girls go around and sleep with anything and everything , and then they demand equal rights and services as the rest of society working legit jobs and paying tax.
FUCK that!

They ain't paying tax because they make cash , so why the hell should they benefit off anything thats provided by the government? (*cough* healthcare *cough*)
And then to make it worse , they get healthcare covered and when their cooches are all fucking dirtied up by some random dick they screwed , the government pays for their treatment. um hi , how many times are you going to get free pills to treat an STD because you choose a dirty lifestyle , and WE end up paying for that outta our tax money.



Seriously , I hope they make it illegal , and send them all to fucking McDonalds to work like every other human has to or stick them in a closet.
Ok I know I just quoted you - but do you really think that most street-level prostitutes KNOW that they have diseases? I highly doubt that.

Escorts can't work if they have a disease. Would YOU pay $300.00 an hour for an infectious std?
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Old Dec 13, 07
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true, there is a lot of 'legalized' prostitution going on already, and it doesn't really do anything to benefit those who actually need the help the most. I think there should definitely be some regulation and protections in place- ie, might be helpful to put clean, safe brothels in the dtes

I find it interesting a lot of people are so firmly anti prostitution, yet they'd jack off to porn any day of the week, or go see strippers, or even drool over some celebrity who is pretty much only famous for their body and think nothing of it. There's not much of a difference.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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^^ I've heard though, that in some places its become so
over-regulated that the girls make next to nothing.
It may have been the Netherlands, but I believe some of the
sex-workers make about minimum wage.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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[quote=F*r*a*;1941543]I dont think it should be encouraged at all , and I have no pity or mercy on them and if they choose that lifestyle then its their fucking problem and whatever comes to them is in their own fate and help and healthcare shouldn't be available if you want to gamble with your life like that.

There is no good enough excuse to justify why someone should be whoring themselves.

( this post btw , so there isnt any confusion , has nothing to do with Pickton or murdering hookers..this is strictly on hooker lifestyle)

If anything , whores are the real criminals and murderers out there. They spread disease and spread illness and they should be locked up. End of story.[/QUOTE)

They chose that lifestyle?Because clearly everyone grows up wanting to be a prostitute. Yes, at some point they made the choice to sell thier body for sex but there are underlying issues as to why that choice was made. Prostitutes are driven towards what they do because of many factors."Whores are the real criminals and murderes out there"
Ok, so now you are saying that because one sells their body for sex they are inevitably a murderer as well? That makes so much sense.
You say it is them that spread diseases and illness, but shouldn't you take into consideration who gave them those diseases? It is not the prostitues that keep the industry so prevalent and high risk, it is the people paying for sex that do so.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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doesn't your entire argument sort of fall apart when you consider that legalization would probably result in more mandatory testing of these damn, irresistible prostitutes?
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Old Dec 13, 07
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Which then limits the risk that all of us will get STIs through the long chain of sexual partners. Ones such as chlamydia. . . such a lovely word. I think I'm going to name my daughter Chlamydia.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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hey robyn, we all know the only people in the world 'irresponsible' enough to spread sexually transmitted diseases are prostitutes! nobody else! everyone else is perfect!
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