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Old Jan 02, 08
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hey guys let's talk about the presidential race

tomorrow's good ol iowa caucus.

i'm thinking clinton's going to win out over obama, only because the older you are the more likely you are to vote, especially in a caucus vote.

huckabee....man, where did this guy come from? I don't want to make a prediction here, but gut instinct tells me he might be able to edge out romney...


what about you guys?
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in a caucus
LOLS o
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Don't worry Jeff, Rawb had a similar response when I was talking about caulking my bathtub.
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Old Jan 02, 08
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Dr. Ron Paul.

The man, the myth, the legend.

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Ron Paul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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He wont win, but I think he'll surprise a lot of people.
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while i believed in the "he'll surprise a lot of people" bandwagon right up until the whole tea party thing, I don't think he'll show in the polls stronger than he's at now (8%?).
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I don't trust any of the polls being released. They've been poisoned from the start (much like media coverage of these races) to try and keep Paul out of the polls. The party has their favourites and Paul is not one of them.

I dunno if I agree with Paul so much. I definitely like that he's looking to make the government more accountable to the constitution, but I also think that heavy fiscal conservatism is not necessarily a Good Thing for the American government, at least not right now. If he were willing to do some heavier spending to set things right at first, and then revert to fiscal conservatism then I'd have a bit more faith in him.
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ron paul wants to take away my right to murder babies
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kucinich wants me to murder more babies!
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if obama wins, will he take kucinich as he VP since kuci endorsed him here?

(will he keep endorsing obama in second caucus votes? there's only what, two more caucus states? one more maybe?)
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oh you wanted an intelligent discussion
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oh you wanted an intelligent discussion
wtf is he posting here for then?
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i don't know what i want
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Robyn, I think you need to tell Jeff what he wants.
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jeff, our lord and savior jesus christ wants an obama/clinton ticket
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i thought he'd want a huckabee/huckabee ticket
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I think Obama/Gore would be a killer ticket...

Frankly I think whoever wins the dem nom is a shoe-in if they put Gore on their ticket.
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ron paul wants to take away my right to murder babies
That's the only thing he believes in that I don't agree with.
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DO YOU REALLY THINK ANOTHER REPUBLICAN IS A GOOD IDEA LETS BE HONEST HERE o
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Another Ron Paul beef: I'd be a lot more for localizing things to the states, if shit like this didn't happen in state legislature:
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I dunno. I think he's overrated just because he's the ONLY conservative candidate that's not campaigning on the same platform that Bush did. Which bugs me... wouldn't they want to distance themselves from an administration with a lower-than-30% approval rating? Unless, of course, the votes are
being fixed and they just want to use the rhetoric as "proof" that the general American populous supports the "War On Terror" and all the bullshit policies that ensued afterwards.

Still bugs me when politicians say "Nobody could have predicted 9/11". How do we know? They disbanded all the counterterrorism units that WOULD have prevented it, so we don't know if it could have been prevented, do we?
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The thing is Hilary's foreign policy doesn't differ all that much so a transition in parties would see minimal effects. Some say a wealthy independent such as Bloomberg could capitalize on disdain for both parties.

This is going to be really close and it could swing any way. Should be an interesting '08.`
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I'm sorry, but I really don't see Hillary Clinton anywhere on a winning ticket. (I realize how this negates my previous post about Gore).

Reason being that the extreme right-wing won't see her as any different than Bill, and the extreme left-wing will see her as not anything like Bill. Most importantly, she's been too downtrodden in funding scandals over the course of her campaign that a lot of the left-wing may turn on her.

In fact, facing off against Hillary Clinton is the only way I see Ron Paul winning.
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for the record my dream ticket is kucinich/kucinich if they allow me to keep eating eggs

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i cant get enough of ron paul.

as i get older im becomming less left and more moderate/right. ron paul is excellent and makes alot of sense on alot of issues.
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RON PAUL WILL OVERHAUL THE SYSTEM HOPING THAT THE REPUBLICANS WILL VOTE THROUGH HIS IDEAS (LOL), AND THEN HE GETS TO DO HIS PART BY NOT VETOING THEM

AWESOMEo
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i cant get enough of ron paul.

as i get older im becomming less left and more moderate/right. ron paul is excellent and makes alot of sense on alot of issues.
aye, growing up i thought the left was where it's at. right now i'd put myself "a little bit more than just right of center" on most issues.
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