Moses was a drug addict.

[ebbomega]

Moses was high on drugs: Israeli researcher

"Every few thousand years some shepard inhales smoke from a burning bush and has a vision or eats moldy rye bread in a cave and sees God. From then on their followers kill one another at the slightest provocation. Haunted houses called temples are built by one side and torn down by another - and then bloody quarrels continue over the crumbling foundations."
- Kerry Thornley

[Revolver]

agreed.

and of course.

entheogenic substances altering human concioussness are the backbone of human spiritual thought and beliefs

the apple was not a apple....it was a mushroom.

Irritates me,esp online and esp on this forum, when people jump in with the whole "oh no your just fucked up on drugs..hippy!"..blah blah blah argument.

theres alot more to it all then that folks :)

[ebbomega]

Drugs help you see patterns. Particularly entheogens. patterns help you see things that others might be too caught up in their own shit that they don't realize, but the flipside is you may also overcompensate and see things that don't exist (otherwise known as hallucinations). Usually it's a combination of both.

[esoter1c]

One of my best trips was when I was 15, smoked some golden hash, ate an 8th of shrooms, kicked back all warm & snuggly watchin weird tv, when I was peaking I closed my eyes, put my head in my lap and saw a massive wheel (mandala) slowly turning, it kept going for infinity, building in brightness & intensity, when it got to the centre, it was Jesus, crown of thorns & all, really tripped me out cause I was mad antieverything religious then, so yeah, I agree...so does Gibby...:P

[ebbomega]

Sounds cool, Blake.

Did Jesus' image morph into yours? If not, you didn't finish the trip. ;-)

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Sounds cool, Blake.

Did Jesus' image morph into yours? If not, you didn't finish the trip. ;-)

The whole seeing Jesus @ the center tripped me out so much i snapped out of it back to "reality".

A few weeks later I did the whole "I am" trip on cid.

& a few weeks ago on....yeah, we've all been there.

[wishbone]

dude.....did that burning bush just talk to you, too?!?!?!

edit:

more like Mount Sin-HIGH am i rite?

[ebbomega]

Yeah, I did that one on mush. I would've flipped back to reality but the setting I was in had kind of already dissipated the concept, so even if I wanted to I probably wouldn't have been able to snap back...

Even cooler was seeing the Moral Orel episode where he had that exact trip. He did it through meditation, but he's a bit of a transcendent character... I love that show. Utterly tasteless but underneath it it's an interesting messianic story...

[-evil-duerr-]

mushrooms are serious stuff. I can't believe how young I was when I was dabbling with those things. They kicked the shit out of me a few times before I learned my lesson.

respect!

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by esoter1c

A few weeks later I did the whole "I am" trip on cid.

ya,

jeeb's be hip to the trip

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Revolver

ya,

jeeb's be hip to the trip

Pretty sure I'm gonna see him fri...DUUUUUUUBFOOOOOOORMS !1!!!!

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by esoter1c

Pretty sure I'm gonna see him fri...DUUUUUUUBFOOOOOOORMS !1!!!!

i know eh...

plaza then dubforms....wubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubwubw ubwub

chhhhrist almighty.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by esoter1c

The whole seeing Jesus @ the center tripped me out so much i snapped out of it back to "reality".

A few weeks later I did the whole "I am" trip on cid.

& a few weeks ago on....yeah, we've all been there.

Closest I've ever come to the whole Jesus trip is tapping into the godvein from time to time - when you have this distinct feeling that everything happening around you is only happening because some part of you wills it. Really, it's just you realizing there's no difference between yourself and the things around you and that what's happening to those things is happening to you, through both transferred energy and in many cases through osmosis. But then there's always the I-Factor in every equation.

But as for Jesus or any religious figure... they've never so much as made a cameo in a passing notion in any of my experiences.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Drugs help you see patterns. Particularly entheogens. patterns help you see things that others might be too caught up in their own shit that they don't realize, but the flipside is you may also overcompensate and see things that don't exist (otherwise known as hallucinations). Usually it's a combination of both.

Those hallucinations, however much created purely out of thought, seem to be viewed as something fake or synthisized by someone taking on a more rational/western point of view.

With experience being the primary data for being...I think the term 'hallucination' is often a write off term for some innate subconcious imagery (that I would relate somewhat to the dreaming mind) that may otherwise prove very valuable to the experiencer.

The trick to it all is knowing when one is overcompensating or not.



And yeah...there's a reason that Yahweh was also said to be the most-high in the holy of holies.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

The trick to it all is knowing when one is overcompensating or not.

Try and look into their eyes
A part of the weekend never dies
There's no tension in your dance
As you try and hold my hand

It's not you it's the E talking
Closing in on a translation
It's not you, it's the E talking
I'm not sure which part I'm playing

[ebbomega]

Praise be to God in his highest
For he is to regret it tomorrow morning