Tibetan Protest

[SEAN!]

Anyone following this? I find it quite distrubing that a government is so afraid of losing its power and credibility that it will use its own military to violently quell dissent.

Its even more remarkible given that the 2008 olympics will be held in beijing this year.

[Carrie]

yesterday there was a big crowd/protest on granville and 16th at the embassy..

It seems like their government is scared of the dalai lama

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Carrie

yesterday there was a big crowd/protest on granville and 16th at the embassy..

It seems like their government is scared of the dalai lama

the chinese government is fucked.

i really like their embassy tho, its a pretty neat building.

[Carrie]

their architecture is amazing... but their government is crazy

[esoter1c]

There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it.
Buddha

[Revolver]

i think its awful and sean your right...the chineese gvt. is completely fucked.

there sending this world to hell in a handbasket fast then you can say 'pender street sweet and sour pork'

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Revolver

i think its awful and sean your right...the chineese gvt. is completely fucked.

there sending this world to hell in a handbasket fast then you can say 'pender street sweet and sour pork'

man youre making me hungry,

anyway i think the american's rank above em in the fuckin up the world scale...tho the chinese got them beat as far as pollution goes, ever seen pictures of beijing/shanghai the whole sky is gray, you cant see the sun because of the smog.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by esoter1c

There has to be evil so that good can prove its purity above it.
Buddha

i beleive in theraveda buddhism but this shit is still fucked up

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

i beleive in theraveda buddhism but this shit is still fucked up

The Chinese Gov't will get what they deserve.

Karma's a bitch.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

anyway i think the american's rank above em in the fuckin up the world scale...

KNOE!...OMG ITS LIKE THE SECRETE SOCIETIES FROM OLD EUROPE THAT HAVE INFECTED THE US GVT WITH ITS NWO IDEOLOGIES..

ITS ALL CAUSE OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,WICH IS FROM ROME,AND ROME IS FROM BABYLON,AND BABYLON IS FROM SUMERIA AND SUMERIA IS FROM THE EXTRATERRISTRIAL NEPHILIM ENKI AND ENLIL...SO...IN TURN.

ALIENS DID IT ALL....

i saw a youtube vid that said so....

[Revolver]

^oh ya,..and by holy roman empire i mean the vatican

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Revolver

KNOE!...OMG ITS LIKE THE SECRETE SOCIETIES FROM OLD EUROPE THAT HAVE INFECTED THE US GVT WITH ITS NWO IDEOLOGIES..

ITS ALL CAUSE OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE,WICH IS FROM ROME,AND ROME IS FROM BABYLON,AND BABYLON IS FROM SUMERIA AND SUMERIA IS FROM THE EXTRATERRISTRIAL NEPHILIM ENKI AND ENLIL...SO...IN TURN.

ALIENS DID IT ALL....

i saw a youtube vid that said so....

GEORGE BUSH AND BARACK OBAMA ARE 13th COUSINS RELATED TO CHARLEMANGE!!!

FUCK THIS ACID IS GOOD! o

[esoter1c]

Tibet: China blocks YouTube, protests spread, bloggers react

Posted by Xeni Jardin, March 16, 2008 9:50 AM | permalink


* Above left: phonecam snapshots of protests in Amdo, Tibet, over the weekend; at right, phonecam video of the same.
* According to Shanghaiist (and now, mainstream news outlets), YouTube was blocked in China over the weekend, likely because of content related to the flood of pro-Tibetan-sovereignty protests in Tibet and elsewhere:

International news channels such as CNN and BBC are also getting routinely blacked out. While we think this is a really poor way to deal with all the shit that's going on, we have been there many, many times, and survived. Time to turn on your VPN again, people! An

* John Kennedy at Global Voices confirms the YouTube block:

As Tibet transitioned into total lockdown and videos of the violent situation proliferated on YouTube, people began noticing Saturday afternoon in China that the video-sharing website could not be accessed. Tech blogger Rick Martin on the CNET Asia Little Red Blog has done some tests which confirm what many have assumed:

* Rebecca McKinnon at Global Voices has an excellent roundup of reactions in the Chinese blogosphere:

For those living in the West who didn't realize that there's little sympathy for Tibet independence among ethnic Chinese in the PRC, this blog post on Global Voices will be a shocker. John Kennedy has translated chatter from Chinese blogs and chatrooms that generally runs along the lines of: those ungrateful minorities, we give them modern conveniences and look how they thank us... where have we heard this before? Reuters has a roundup on the Washington Post that begins: "a look at Chinese blogs reveals a vitriolic outpouring of anger and nationalism directed against Tibetans and the West." (...) "Davesgonechina" at the Tenement Palm blog has been translating the chatter coming from Chinese netizens on Fanfou and Jiwai - Chinese versions of Twitter. Click here, here, and here, specifically. Dave has done more than translate: he points out that this Tibet situation is a real challenge to all people who believe that the Internet can help foster free speech and bring about better global understanding. Here is his challenge to all of us...

* On Friday, protest in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, erupted into violence when police, army troops, and ethnic Tibetan demonstrators clashed. Some accounts place the death toll at 30, some at 100, some at 300. It's hard to separate rumor from truthful first-hand account, and hard to know exactly how many have been killed or injured, because communication in the region is so difficult. Foreign journalists are not allowed in, unaccompanied by official escorts. Internet and phone communications are routinely blocked by Chinese authorities when unrest occurs; some blogging tourists in Lhasa wanting to upload photos of what they witnessed have reported the presence of authorities inside 'net cafes. Pro-Tibetan-sovereignty sites like TCHRD, SFT, and Phayul are posting first-person accounts online. Some of those reports are difficult to independently confirm, given the circumstances. The website of the Central Tibetan Administration (part of the government in exile, led by the Dalai Lama, based in India) posts this update. * The unrest spread this weekend to regions outside Lhasa: police and protesters also clashed in China's Sichuan and Qinghai provinces, and Gansu province, all of which have large ethnic Tibetan populations. On Saturday...

Demonstrations erupted for the second consecutive day in the city of Xiahe in Gansu Province, where an estimated 4,000 Tibetans gathered near the Labrang Monastery. Local monks had held a smaller protest on Friday, but the confrontation escalated Saturday afternoon, according to witnesses and Tibetans in India who spoke with protesters by telephone. Residents in Xiahe, reached by telephone, heard loud noises similar to gunshots or explosions. A waitress described the scene as “chaos” and said many injured people had been sent to a local hospital.

* China's government has declared a "people's war" against the Tibetan independence movement, in "propaganda and security" measures, and has implemented what amounts to martial law in Lhasa.

"Fight a people's war to oppose separatism and protect stability ... expose and condemn the malicious actions of these forces and expose the hideous face of the Dalai clique to broad daylight," senior regional and security officials announced after a meeting, according to the official Tibet Daily on Sunday.

* China's governor in Tibet promises harsh consequences for protest participants who do not turn themselves in by Tuesday. * Speaking to reporters today in Dharamsala, India, the home of the Tibetan Government in Exile, the Dalai Lama called for an international inquiry into the current human rights conditions in Tibet.

''Whether intentionally or unintentionally, some kind of cultural genocide is taking place,'' said the Dalai Lama, the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader. He was referring to China's policy of encouraging the ethnic Han majority to migrate to Tibet, restrictions on Buddhist temples and re-education programs for monks.

* George Bush removed China from a human rights blacklist just three days before the bloodshed in Lhasa. UPDATE: Boing Boing reader Adam writes,

I am visiting Beijing on business, and staying at a hotel that caters to Westerners. There have been reports that China was loosening controls on the media ahead of the Olympic games, in order to give visitors the impression that the media is unrestricted, but that is not the case in the last day. While watching CNN in my hotel room, the station goes dark during the top-of-the-hour news flash on the riots, then returns when the synopsis of "what's to come" is given about other stories, and then goes dark again while the coverage switches to Lhasa.
Coverage returns with the anchor asking users to send in their first-hand reports to ireport.com, after all mention of the incident is over. Same results for BBC as well.
The China Daily newspaper I grabbed from the lounge has a small article on the bottom of the front page, titled "Dalai Lama behind sabotage", and states that his "clique" has "organized, premeditated, and masterminded" the beatings, looting, and arson, which "has aroused the indignation of, and is strongly condemned by, the people of all ethnic groups in Tibet."

* Reports estimate that 20,000 Chinese troops have now been deployed to Lhasa

[Senior]

watch this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion

Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion
Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion (2002)

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Senior

watch this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion

Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion
Tibet: Cry of the Snow Lion (2002)

http://www.fulldls.com/download-movi...rg+avi.torrent
http://www.fulldls.com/download-movi...rg+avi.torrent

[Drazkers]

Its good to know that this is getting some press, this is an issue that the public should know about it

[Vitamin-X]

The Chinese could start eating the Tibetans and the West wold
play along; as long as those Trade deals kept coming.

[miss.myra]

Pretty much. ^

what would happen if China had vast oil reserves? would this awful situation that has gone on for far too long still be allowed to happen?

it's very troubling that the world's motto after the holocaust was 'never again', but look what keeps happening around the world with leaders doing nothing and turning a blind eye to such atrocities.

[jenai]

it's interesting to note that the US has taken China off the human rights blacklist, just in time to see Tibetans in justified revolution from oppression.

However, China continues to lie about the Dalai Lama as instigator of this revolution.

In doing so China is trying to blame someone else for the problem in Lhasa, rather than admitting that moving Han people in Tibet has marginalized the Tibetans, and consequently impoverished them more, thus leading to the current revolution which is a freedom movement, pure and simple.

i predict a lot of the oppression now will be hidden behind a lot of hot air from Beijing.

Oh, and not a word about Bjork yelling "Free Tibet" during her recent tour of China.

Not one word.

No, the Chinese authorities would rather diss the Buddha's avatar than also blame Bjork, considering that foreign entertainers pay a hefty "user fee" - BRIBE - to liberate the hearts of oppressed Chinese folk through holding music concerts in the country.

I blame the CIA for not getting the first Tibetan revolution right back in the 50s.

While Bush is not to blame, being ignorant of the facts - and the current administration still is in the dark about Tibet - I do blame the CIA if this turns out badly for the Tibetans, again.

Using monks to revolt -- hmm, this is the same ploy they used in Rangoon.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

it's very troubling that the world's motto after the holocaust was 'never again', but look what keeps happening around the world with leaders doing nothing and turning a blind eye to such atrocities.

Everyone is to blame, not just the leaders.

People choose to violate others, choose to act out of rage, fear, cynicism, sadism, and hold positions of authority over others in defiantly restrictive authoritarianism.

It will only stop when people will be as defiant to act out of compassion, love, sincerity and mutual-cohabitation, at the least, agreeing to disagree.


We've got a long way to go for that, and not a lot of time, but it's never too late to start.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

Pretty much. ^

what would happen if China had vast oil reserves? would this awful situation that has gone on for far too long still be allowed to happen?

it's very troubling that the world's motto after the holocaust was 'never again', but look what keeps happening around the world with leaders doing nothing and turning a blind eye to such atrocities.

this is hardly the premeditated, carefully planned and systematic murder of millions of people based on a devaluation of their humanity to something akin to that of a rodent.


in ghetto terms its: *****z gettin clapped cuz they spoke up.

p.s you also have to take into account the fact that chinese citizens themselve's don't care about their own human rights because they are too concerned with their own individual advancement. human rights is a western concept that is largely foreign to the rest of the world, in a sense its a form of cultural imperialism

[Vitamin-X]

^^ hmmmm

Positive Imperialism.

[wolfenok]

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