I witnessed/experienced racism today

[shogun rua]

was on the skytrain, and this yuppie smart looking white couple were openly complaining about asians. wtf?

granted they weren't KKK members or anything, and were probably just blowing off steam and they were off the cuff remarks too, but is anyone ever kinda stunned by this kinda stuff?

i used to have a friend who was addicted to 4chan and its memes, which invariably involved a black person with some combination of watermelon/fried chicken/malt liquor/bling/etc.

he used to shit himself laughing at these and i never really thought much of it. except for the fact that he would always show me these and "n***ers" became part of his vocabulary

anyway, just rambling. someone else pick up the ball

[rawb]

Originally Posted by shogun rua

i went outside

suspect

Originally Posted by shogun rua

i used to have a friend

confirmed fake

[NinjaBoy]

Yes, racism exists.

[Clayton.]

What did they say?

[tiedye]

I smell a ruse. This IS wum, isn't it?

[ebbomega]

Yup, prejudice is still pretty prevalent in BC, particularly I've found against asians. I've been guilty of it myself to a certain extent, complaining about old asian lady drivers... though tbh every time I've almost been hit by a car it's been one of those three (old, asian or female, sometimes a combination thereof). But stereotypes do exist for a reason. The important part is that you judge someone based on their actions, not on how they're born. If I almost get run over by some asian guy, I'm gonna hate on him. But that's not to say that when I meet an asian person I'm going to automatically assume that they're a bad driver.

Ever notice that the only real way to be racist towards white people is to accuse them of being racist?

[shogun rua]

Originally Posted by Clayton.

What did they say?

they were basically trading war stories with eachother about their various dealings.

i.e. walking too slowly, throwing the peace sign, speaking in another language, etc.

there was an asian girl sitting behind them and i felt embarrassed for her

[shogun rua]

anyway, I realize we all have our prejudices. I was just taken aback by how open they were with it. I wanted to tell the guy to keep his racism on the DL since we were in a public place.

[shogun rua]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Yup, prejudice is still pretty prevalent in BC, particularly I've found against asians. I've been guilty of it myself to a certain extent, complaining about old asian lady drivers... though tbh every time I've almost been hit by a car it's been one of those three (old, asian or female, sometimes a combination thereof). But stereotypes do exist for a reason. The important part is that you judge someone based on their actions, not on how they're born. If I almost get run over by some asian guy, I'm gonna hate on him. But that's not to say that when I meet an asian person I'm going to automatically assume that they're a bad driver.

Ever notice that the only real way to be racist towards white people is to accuse them of being racist?

we have our weaknesses too.

for every asian driver joke, you could ask why so many white folk do crack/meth/line the streets of hastings/come from broken homes/etc.

[shogun rua]

Originally Posted by tiedye

I smell a ruse. This IS wum, isn't it?

I found Jesus

[shogun rua]

I also think this has a lot to do with post modernism and HBO style humor.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by shogun rua

we have our weaknesses too.

for every asian driver joke, you could ask why so many white folk do crack/meth/line the streets of hastings/come from broken homes/etc.

East Hastings isn't really racially specific, and if it were it would sooner be native than white. Just saying.

I dunno. Most of the white jokes I've heard have been accusing us of being racist. OTOH, Katt Williams has some good ones, as does The Boondocks.

[shogun rua]

[decypher]

post-modernism eh? How so?

Anyways, Canada has always been a bit of a paradox. It can be so open and closed minded at the same time. Being half white doesn't cut it according to the definitions laid out by Canada. Instead you just fall into the 'Other' category of the visible minority list. Unfortunately presumptions and stereotypes like these are prevalent as you all have mentioned. People like to categorize and that fails to see the realities of the various identities out there today.

I know Canada needs the visible minority label for it's employment equity act but the way the government defines "non-white" with these umbrella categories have been shown to be discriminatory and very eurocentric.

[shogun rua]

Originally Posted by decypher

post-modernism eh? How so?

I have relatives from Pittsburg. Which according to them, is the only real melting pot in the US. Unlike NYC where everyone retreats to their various enclaves, Pittsburg was made up of a smattering of central european nations and the Irish.

People got along and had the dignity to not offend eachother or tolerate offense.

I contrast that with now where people break the ice by trying to be offensive or controversial.

Apparently traditional respect is stuffy and outmoded.

Last year I went to a party and this guy insults my religion and I find out later its because he's "shy".

wtf happened to shy people standing in the corner and not being noticed???

I also see it with a lot of young people who call eachother ethnic slurs because they're "cool" with eachother.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

East Hastings isn't really racially specific, and if it were it would sooner be native than white. Just saying.

I dunno. Most of the white jokes I've heard have been accusing us of being racist. OTOH, Katt Williams has some good ones, as does The Boondocks.

you gotta watch more stand-up by non-whites. they cover all the bases for white stereotypes.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Originally Posted by decypher

post-modernism eh? How so?

Anyways, Canada has always been a bit of a paradox. It can be so open and closed minded at the same time. Being half white doesn't cut it according to the definitions laid out by Canada. Instead you just fall into the 'Other' category of the visible minority list. Unfortunately presumptions and stereotypes like these are prevalent as you all have mentioned. People like to categorize and that fails to see the realities of the various identities out there today.

I know Canada needs the visible minority label for it's employment equity act but the way the government defines "non-white" with these umbrella categories have been shown to be discriminatory and very eurocentric.

Racism, going back to 1800-1860 in England was still extremely racist. So, the sentiment for white people to be belligerent to Asians, Indians, and blacks was to be expected.
Europe had a very strong hold in the world and treated anyone who wasn't white as a n**ger. Asians were often called yellow and women were wenches.
The moral majority in the 1900's saw past racism and didn't speak about it, but it still existed. Movies like Mississippi Burning showed that Americans had serious race problems in the south even in the 1950's.
At one point during American history, everyone who had any money would have had a slave. It was people like Abraham Lincoln who passed anti-slavery laws and the USA is now very multi-cultural.

The world's history is so much involved around race. I've even had experiences of Racism myself in Japan, but only from older generations of people. Thankfully, I can look at racism as just a joke people can look back in history and laugh at. The Generations X and Y are just the beginning of new ways of thinking and believing about racism.

[C_squared]

^ Racism in the states has been inbeded in their culture for hundreds of years. Slave trade started there just before the 1600's. The KKK had a HUGE hand in local and federal governments in the states for almost 150 years. To say that "Movies like Mississippi Burning showed that Americans had serious race problems in the south even in the 1950's" Just shows how blind North Americans (whites) dismiss how deeply rooted racism is in their own country. When something like this is entrenched in culture for that amount of time, I reckon it would take just as long if not longer to clean the slate of the American psyche on their views towards racism.

[shogun rua]

the fuck happened to this board

[SEAN!]

you're a fuckin goof