2010 olympics

[No trace]

2010 Olympics in Van? whose for it whose against? do you give a flying F*@k?

[Bitchin]

I'm indiffrent.

I'm not sure yet.

[kandy kid]

What I don't get is how the government is willing to spend millions of dollars to prepare for the olympics but when it comes to more important issues they shrug their shoulders.

[desiRAWR]

If Whistler has the Olympics this year, prices up there are going to skyrocket even more than they are right now. Only people who are wealthy enough will be able to live up there. Taxes down here will probably rise as well, because they'll have to make the highways better. Only the select few people will be able to go see the games live because ticket prices will be crazy.

I may be listening to my parents too much about this, but I know that these are some of the bad things about having the olympics here. ALSO, we didn't have much snow this year. How is it going to be like in 10 years to come??

[desiRAWR]

I say the government should spend more money on education and health care rather than the olympics. The olympics will only benefit a few people while education and better health care will benefit everyone.

[No trace]

i dont know all the details... but the infastructure it will bring to van, can and will be turned into stuff like afforable housing and inprovments to rec centers and stuff...
one downfall... they are going to build a luxury hotel right beside the plaza... so no more plaza parties...

[No trace]

i totally agree they could spend the money on different sectors, but will they really if the olympics dont come to van?

[meth0dical]

NO!
we're gonna be flooded with people...it'd suck ass. plus all the stuff people already said, i dont feel like repeating them.

cept i wouldnt mind watching the snowboarding comps...but i can watch that on tv :)
mmmmmm...tv....

[desiRAWR]

They probably won't, but they should.

[starsprite]

Didn't we JUST have this thread?? wutever....
but ya I think we should have them here, it'd be cool.

[Riot]

Originally posted by starsprite
Didn't we JUST have this thread?? wutever....
but ya I think we should have them here, it'd be cool.

wurd, this is what the, 3rd one?

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by kandy kid
What I don't get is how the government is willing to spend millions of dollars to prepare for the olympics but when it comes to more important issues they shrug their shoulders.

the olympics are more important

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by No trace
i dont know all the details... but the infastructure it will bring to van, can and will be turned into stuff like afforable housing and inprovments to rec centers and stuff...
one downfall... they are going to build a luxury hotel right beside the plaza... so no more plaza parties...

they were going to do that since plaza itself was built...flooded with people? who cares people bring their money, money = jobs. increased prices who cares whistler is for the rich anyway, and the people who live their now can profit when they sell their houses to developers.

im 110% for the olympics, look at how expo 86 changed our city with a wave of investment and immigration which revitalized the downtown core into model which is now other cities are beginning to study and copy. whole new neighbourhoods downtown exist where there used to be empty industrial buildings.

personally i see the olympics as a much better investment then health care and education. An investment in the olympics could bring us a brand image as a world class city coupled with enormous economic investment, and investment in needed infastructure from the federal government, investment which we wouldn't see otherwise. its unlikely that we could ever see similar benefits from investing similar amounts in health care and education, two systems which are fundamentaly flawed anyway (imho) BEsides this city is fuckin boring, truely a backwards provincal little city with big city aspirations, atleast an olympics would give people something to be excited about.

[inkster]

i'm a big fan of people careening down mountains.

i vote yes.

[NinjaBoy]

I would like them here, and would probably go to one event just cause, but that's just so I can say I went.

Either way, i'm fine...

[Crazy Dave]

So who wants to place beats that if the games happen, that non of the good things will really come about,,, and that we will be fucked over much the same as the Expo86 BS.

(who here knows that the sale of the Expo lands cost BC tax payer per year, for almost 10 years, more then the fast cat feries did?)

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by Crazy Dave
So who wants to place beats that if the games happen, that non of the good things will really come about,,, and that we will be fucked over much the same as the Expo86 BS.

(who here knows that the sale of the Expo lands cost BC tax payer per year, for almost 10 years, more then the fast cat feries did?)

show me proof.

i knew there were problems with soil remediation and its disposal, but as i understand it is the resposibility of concord pacific. i figure this because my company has bid on projects at the concord pacific site and withen the tender documents it states that excavation of soil and its disposal is to be handled by concord pacific who owns that land.

secondly the yaletown development has generated billions of dollars of revenue for construction companies alone. Also because of its cheap price the city of vancouver was able to get the developers to follow their every whim in developing the site. thus creating such a well planned urban community that city planners from other cities are coming to vancouver to learn about it.

secondly can you denie the impact that asian immigration and investment had on the economy of british columbia. it was this wave of investment after expo 86 which lessend the impact of the recession felt in north america around the time of the gulf war.

i dunno im just big on buisness, which is why i support vancouvers olympic bid.

[dj4mula]

I pretty much agree with Sean.

Expo 86 put Vancouver on the map. It still seems Vancouver is still relying on that to expose themselves. It's time to put Vancouver back on the world circuit. Issues like the '94 Riot, Marijuana and the Pig Farm has brought bad spotlight to Vancouver. The 2010 olympics will put Vancouver back ontop.

Whistler is a world-class mountain and that itself will draw millions. Bottom line, if planned correctly a lot of business and tourism will come Vancouver's way. Tourism will bring in so much money that it can be used to fix up the East Side.

All cities have there problem, Vancouver is not an exception. Also, TO lost there bid. No thanks to there mayor! Heh. :kam:

[krisamata]

i already posted this a couple of weeks back.

anyways i dont want them.
the only thing that i like about the bid is how they're going to change some of the athlete's housing complexes into low income housing.

[RJay]

Originally posted by No trace
i totally agree they could spend the money on different sectors, but will they really if the olympics dont come to van?

they could but they won't cuz every other province is askin for more money... but they are willing to give money for the olympics cuz yes it makes our country look that much better. Tru our taxes will be higher n stuff but at the same time our economy is gonna be boosted and there will be a lot more job oppotunities down here in Van and in Whistler. Plus itd be cool cuz the whole world will be watching our city for that two weeks.

[Senior]

A few things I will point out:

We need to continue building our infrastructure as this city grows one way or another (sky trains, highways and more buses).

Property values increase and things change no matter what. With or without the Olympics prices will continue to rise and people that have less money will have to live further from Whistler (Squamish probably).

Having a plebisite ACTUALLY will strengthen our bid IF it passes. The fact is we do live in a Democracy and if it doesn't pass than the people don't want it. From what I gather it will pass and likely with a 70% or even 80% aproval rating. Also as already mentioned the people of this city obviosly support a plebisite as Larry Campbell won the civic election by a landslide.

The Olympics might on paper pay for themselves through tax revenues. The fact is though we will get much needed upgardes to our regoins infrastructure that we would otherwise pay for on our own.

Also as we shift away from a resource based economy we NEED this kind of event to promote B.C. as a world class destination. Also with an upgrade to the convention center we could hold larger conferences.

Homelessness and poverty are issues that need to be addressed. However I think that looking at it on a one or the other basis is not logical. Both are important to our futures and can be done. Poverty is something that is very hard to deal with but also when dealt with DOES have a very valuable return.

As far as poverty goes one benifit of the Olympics will be 1000 social housing units as a legacy of the Olympics (the athletes village will be used as social housing after the games).

As far as health care I believe that we need to look no further than our neighbors to the south if we want to see the direct benifits of promoting athleticism. Obesity due to a lack of exersice is an epidemic in the USA and is the #1 killer via heart attacks. We have an increasing problem with this in Canada and having an event like the Olympics will no doubt spark peoples interest in getting involved in a sport. Also it will leave a legacy of facilities that we can use for recreation.

At any rate I would like to see the Olympics come to Vancouver/Whistler and believe that it's our responsibility to ensure that we make an iformed choice on wether or not we support the bid. By the way I live on my own pay my own taxes and bills.

See this thread for more, http://www.form-kaos.com/board/showt...1&pagenumber=4

[GiggleyGal]

I think it would be cool 2 have them here even tho it does cost a lot of $.

[Senior]

Oh and as far as them costing a lot of money it is 0.46% of B.C.'s GDP over the next ten years based on zero growth over that same period (so actually even less than that).