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  #26 (permalink)  
Old Feb 08, 03
be gentle...I'm dainty
 
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Prissypants will become famous soon enough
Actually specialK I have had my licence for 10 years now and have never got a ticket or in an accident while behind the wheel. I don't own a car. I bike everywhere I need to go or I take the bus or cab when I have a bunch to carry...The only reasons why I have a licence is to get jobs that require a licence, and as ID...

P.S: Thanks for the info on cars I don't know much about them but I could see the need of having them be able to go faster if it is better for the engine...I still think that driving is a privelage though that should be taken away from a bunch more people than it has been.
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Old Feb 08, 03
seksy
 
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You guys are still missing my point...
OK, sure, them street racing is wrong (For the record, i DO think it is somewhat dangerous to race down a public street and i honestly prefer to take someone out onto a industrial road or something).
However, them doing something wrong doesn't nessecarilly mean that no one else could POSSIBLY do anything wrong. Understand?

If they intentionally ram into a car, yes then its murder. But when an old couple suddenly makes an error in judgement and makes a left turn, the street racers aren't 100% to blame.
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Old Feb 08, 03
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HEY SLIM

EVER HEARD OF MANSLAUGHTER?
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Old Feb 08, 03
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you think it's SOMEWHAT dangerous to race down a public street?

you really are dumb.

-s.
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Old Feb 08, 03
seksy
 
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HEY MYRA, YES I HAVE HEARD OF MANSLAUGHTER. HAVE YOU HEARD OF CAPSLOCK?

are you fuckign stupid or something? does them racing automatically void everything everyone else could possibly be doing wrong that might determine weither this ends up just a harmless drag race or a fatality?

A man breaks into your house, you hear him and shoot him. I guess you shooting him just canceled out what he was doing wrong (robbing your house in case you cant figure that out).

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Old Feb 08, 03
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and heres another scenario. Someone is trying to break into your house at night. You wake up, decide you go out on your balcony for a smoke, and accidently knock something off the railing which lands on him and injures/kills him. Am i correct to assume you would totally agree that you should goto jail for that?
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Old Feb 08, 03
Hot Rod Ho
 
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thats more like self deffense you fuckass.

I'm guessing what You mean is that accidents happen right? the streetracers may not always be 100% to blame for the actual accident. But they should be blamed 100% for the car they hit being slit in two, or the person they hit being thrown 50 feet.

Accidents DO happen and they are more than often more than one persons fault, but if one of them is not only excessively speeding but paying attention to the person they are racing, 1) the seriousness of the accident goes throw the roof, I doubt many people have walked away from an accident at that speeed when people walk away from NORMAL accidents everyday 2) the fact that this person is street racing almost completely overshadows an improper left turn, or stolen right away.
You're trying to make the fact that these people (including you) are putting innocent peoples lives in grave danger, by pointing out minor driving short cuts people make safely every day. (I'm not saying those should be happening either but you can't compare them to street racing.)
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Old Feb 08, 03
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Originally posted by specialkonrd
HEY MYRA, YES I HAVE HEARD OF MANSLAUGHTER. HAVE YOU HEARD OF CAPSLOCK?

are you fuckign stupid or something? does them racing automatically void everything everyone else could possibly be doing wrong that might determine weither this ends up just a harmless drag race or a fatality?

A man breaks into your house, you hear him and shoot him. I guess you shooting him just canceled out what he was doing wrong (robbing your house in case you cant figure that out).
I had to write it big because you didn't seem to _get it_ before, smart guy.

You must be dizzy from running around in circles trying to reiterate your erroneus points over and over again. Stop trying to justify streetracing to the world.
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Old Feb 08, 03
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what am i not getting? YES I UNDERSTAND YOU SEEM TO KEEP COMPARING ME TO EMINEM FOR SOME REASON.

Jen, not 100% racers fault for the crash but 100% fault for the car being split in two? I can agree with that. But i bet more people die yearly from left turns then street racing.
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Old Feb 08, 03
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If anything, i would think if you're going 200kph you would be more difficult to hit...
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Old Feb 08, 03
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what am i not getting? YES I UNDERSTAND YOU SEEM TO KEEP COMPARING ME TO EMINEM FOR SOME REASON.
He seems to embody the 'unique' rage and frustration of a white kid from the suburbs who acts like he just doesn't 'give a fuck' about anyone else because he's so insecure and thinks society owes him something.

basically, he reminds me of you.

:D
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Old Feb 08, 03
Hot Rod Ho
 
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^baha

And Konnie boy, its JenNA.
What kind of idiotic logic is that? I don't think it's the streetracers being hit we have to worry about, its who they are hitting. Just stop trying to justify it, its pointless. Doing anything illegal while driving is putting peoples lives in danger, and I dont think any of it is justifiable. Can't you get the point that putting other peoples lives in dangers for a little thrill, to prove your engine is bigger than his engine, or even the fact you are running a little, is plain STUPID, selfish and irresponsible. Whether or not someone else was in the wrong place at the wrong time or how they got there.
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Old Feb 08, 03
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sorry i know too many jen/jenna's to keep track of who's who
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Old Feb 08, 03
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Quote:
Originally posted by specialkonrd

If they intentionally ram into a car, yes then its murder. But when an old couple suddenly makes an error in judgement and makes a left turn, the street racers aren't 100% to blame.
if the person streetracing or speeding is going 180kph or more, its pretty much impossible for them to make any corrections in driving that are neccesary when unforseen things happen, such as an old couple making a wrong turn.

its part of their responsiblility to be driving at a reasonable speed so that when the unexpected happens, they can correct and avoid an accident. you cant do that going at super high speeds.

specialpudrad. you are the most inane, and just generally moronic kid ever.
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Old Feb 08, 03
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One could argue you have no time to make corrections, on the other hand, one such as i will argue that you have less time to make the decision as to what to do, but when you do it, if you're going at 180 it'll happen 3 times faster. Steering is very sensitive at that speed
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Old Feb 08, 03
DONT BE BITTER BE BETTER
 
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there's something called 'negligence' which means that if you do something dangerous to others and understand it is dangerous to others, then you can be held liable for the harm your act causes.

if you buy a sword and run down a busy street with your eyes closed waving it in front of you, you are negligent. you can't claim 'people got in my way' as a defence. you can't say that the dead little kid who didn't run fast enough was partly to blame.

if you drive your car excessively fast, you take responsibility for that action. are you setting out to murder people? no. of course not.

but can your actions cause bodily harm/death to other people? fuck yes. you are voluntarily placing yourself in a situation you can not control very well, all the while endangering other people. this makes you 100% to blame. (unless of course the other party was also being negligent as well...).
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Old Feb 08, 03
seksy
 
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On the other hand, that guy that just decides to jump out in front of you even though he saw you coming has some fault in getting stabbed to.
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Old Feb 08, 03
DONT BE BITTER BE BETTER
 
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Originally posted by specialkonrd
One could argue you have no time to make corrections, on the other hand, one such as i will argue that you have less time to make the decision as to what to do, but when you do it, if you're going at 180 it'll happen 3 times faster. Steering is very sensitive at that speed
no, steering is sensitive to the driver. moving the wheel a 1/4 turn while going 50 will yeild a exponentially smaller turning radius than a 1/4 turn going 3 times as fast.
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Old Feb 08, 03
DONT BE BITTER BE BETTER
 
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On the other hand, that guy that just decides to jump out in front of you even though he saw you coming has some fault in getting stabbed to.
that is an incredibly unlikely situation, and not at all applicable to the point at hand.
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Old Feb 08, 03
seksy
 
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it will yield a smaller turn radius, which doesn't matter too much when all ur doing is changing lanes to avoid another car.
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Old Feb 10, 03
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i think that house arrest and removal of their driving priveleges is a fair consequence. kids have been street racing forever. isn't everyones favorite movie "GREASE"? hmmm...as long as guys have testicles and testosterone - there are going to be the green light standoffs. there always have been. the problem maybe is the fact that the only legal place to race your car is in mission. who the fuck wants to go to mission? it takes like $10 in gas to get there and back - its so gay. and becasue its the only spot to race - its so busy in the few short months that it is open that most of the racing occurs on the way there or on the way home because noone ever gets enough races in to make their trip worthwhile.

maybe the city should look into developing some sort of racing facility NEARBY where we can go and race in a controlled environment - where people wont be crossing the street and if cars get out of contro they will hit a pile of tires instead of a cement pole. they should make it indoors as well - so that kids dont have to test out their wet traction control and poor understeer reactions in real life.

im a racer. i am not a fan of street races. ill take a guy off the line if hes being a dick - but i wont go past the limit with him - ill let him get the ticket. i save my races for the track. i think that more people would have more control if there was a safe place to do it.

bren
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