Feb 06, 03
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Streetracers
so what do u think of the sentence that the two indo-canadian gentlemen got the other day for killing a women while streetracing?
do u think it was fair? do u think they should have gotten jail time? and also....what do u think of this guy that also happens to share the opinion with someone else on this board...that if you get hit...its yer own fault? 
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Feb 06, 03
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1) I think the sentence was fair, there 18 and 21 years old, hard working with no prior criminal record. They made a mistake and will pay for it for the next 2 years. I think the publics reaction to there punishment is based upon lack of knowledge. While under house arrest you can only leave to go to work or school, you wear an electronic tracking device at all times, a baliff will pop by your house at least once a week(unexpectantly).. I know a few guy's who've been under house arrest, it sucks ass..
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Feb 06, 03
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Yes, between 18 and 21 IS young, but it's not so young that these two realize the possible reprucussions of dangerous driving could result in death of themselves, their friends, or innocent bystanders. The fact that they have no criminal record previous to the incident is completely irrelevant. Their irresponsible actions caused someone to lose their life- that is just about the worst crime there is. That logic is so utterly flawed....I mean, should they let robert pickton go because apparently he was a pillar of the community? Give me a break. Cry me a fucking river, house arrest isn't that difficult for someone to go through. Oh waa, you can't go out with your friends at night, you can't drink or do drugs..So fucking what? They are still allowed to live their lives, see their friends, work, be around their families unfortunately the woman who was struck by them doesn't get the same privileges...how can you even begin to talk about how house arrest is harsh? Do you have a fucking clue of how serious of a crime it is to be so irresponsible you take someone's LIFE? Street racing is by far the STUPIDEST thing a young person can decide to do with their free time. If they like the trills of driving fast that much, then they should suck it up and go to the racetrack and go professional. The fact that these two punks got a lenient sentance just sends the message out to other bratty kids who race their expensive cars that mommy + daddy paid for that if they really fuck up, they can even avoid prison! This case has set a completely absurd precedent. M
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Feb 06, 03
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john 2899131
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Feb 06, 03
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and i agree with myra's words... those 2 guys should have totally gotten a stronger sentence... the fact that they didnt have any prior criminal record doesnt mean jack shit... would it mean anything if a man who murdered someone didnt have a prior criminal record? they committed a crime and they should be liable for their actions
also, regarding that other punk-ass chinese kid who was racing in abbotsford(?) and ripped that old couple's car in half... i cant believe all they did was suspend his license... and whats worse is they interviewed him on the news and he blames the couple for making a left turn!! he was like "yeah, they need to remember that the person going straight has the right of way"... its times like these that i really wish i knew where the guy lived :p john 2899131
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Feb 06, 03
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example of what I think:
*So and so just murdered someone. But he has no previous criminal record...Oh well, lets just let him off easier, it's not HIS fault he murdered someone, he's still young, he doesn't know any better* Uh yah. Makes -SO- much sense to me. If you do the crime, you pay the time. Simple as that. A car is one of the biggest weapons around if you don't know how to drive it properly. Get a clue people, they say DRIVE SAFELY for a reason. Are these the two men that they might deport in the end? I just saw something on the morning news quickly but I didn't get a chance to see it all. Fill me in.
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Feb 06, 03
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DEPORTATION RAH! RAH! RAH!
john 2899131
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Feb 06, 03
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I find it strange that when a street racer causes an accident and is lucky enough to walk away with their life that they then blame the other person for causing the accident in the first place.
Just be lucky you are still around! It is times like this where the gene pool pruning via the Darwin system should be in effect.
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Feb 06, 03
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After talking to so many people over the past few months about this ordeal and their experiences with street racing, I think that many guys enjoy it but are finally getting the message that it is wrong and puts the public at unnecessary risk. Even the judge that heard my bf's case said to him, "I have no problem with street racing, just take it to the raceway....my best advice is to start acting like you're 35...instead of like you're 15". I think that the 2 guys that killed that lady were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or rather the lady was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and there was no intention to harm anyone. They didn't think of the reprecussions and did not think of the worst case scenario. They screwed up, yes, but hopefully have learned from it. I know that there is nothing that they can say or do that will bring that lady back or comfort her family, but maybe the message that the media has portrayed of the result of street racing has gotten across to others? After speaking to so many people on the subject, it seems like it may have....at least to the population that I have discussed with. I personally am pretty happy that my bf got caught and, although he has gone through a lot over the past few months, I believe that he deserved/deserves it. I'm glad that the police are cracking down, (the officers that caught my bf were undercover and came to his house a week later), and at least scaring those who are stupid enough to endulge in such a dangerous activity. *Jen* p.s. Sorry for the novel...I have a lot to say....actually I have more but no time.
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Feb 06, 03
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Just to clarify....
I'm not saying that I support or agree at ALL with street racing. I think that street racers, although they are not always young, believe that they are invincible and are very young minded. I was just telling of my experience. *Jen*
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Feb 06, 03
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Mind boggling was not what i was aiming for. Just sharing my opinion, although I know I probably contradicted myself a few times....due to the fact that I think I know what I think of the people who street race, but in reality I have two colliding views.
Err...I know this is a touchy subject....maybe I shouldn't have posted. *Jen*
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Feb 06, 03
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lol put dere ass bak on da boat...
tru'
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Feb 06, 03
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I think they should have gotten a harsher sentence.
Maybe if there's a risk of getting caught and getting jail time, some people won't be so quick to have their 2 minutes of fun or whatever. Alot of people I think tend to do things because they know they can get away with it. Like stealing cars (i'm not saying this is close to killing someone while racing but it's an example) Nothing really happens to them so they can just go out and do it all again. There should be a harsher sentence. If they have license and know how to drive, they should know the damned consequences of racing. THERES A REASON FOR SPEED LIMITS. Some people just don't seem to comprehend that and think everything revolves around them and what they're doing. You can just drive thinking everyone is going to look out for you so you can fuck around and do what you want. And about the kid in Abbotsford, sorry, but whether or not the car going straight has the right of way, that fact is pretty much void when you going well over the speed limit. Some people shouldn't be allowed in the drivers seat.
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Feb 06, 03
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I always wonder why, if the speed limit is usually no more than 120km an hour that they make cars that can go 160+ km/h...Isn't that just asking to go above the speed limit?
As far as those two idiots go...oh no poor them, they can't do anything for two years...boo hoo... What about the lady who will never do anything again...EVER!!! Streetracing is one of the stupidest things people can do...I believe that if you want to put your own life in danger that is your choice but when you put other people's lives at risk that is bullshit and you should get a serious beatdown. These people should never be allowed behind the wheel again...Driving is a privelage not a right. Last edited by Prissypants; Feb 06, 03 at 09:37 PM.
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Feb 06, 03
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Geez, i hope this doesn't turn into another big thread dedicated to bitching me out, but you guys are fucking acting like just because they were racing, its impossible for anyone else to make any sort of mistake besides these two. Yes my freinds, them racing instantly made everyone else on the road a safe driver. Maybe those old people in abbotsford are too senile (sp?) to accurate judge distance before making a left turn? As for "driving is a privelage not a right", you say that now. I'm so sure you would be just ecstatic if you lost your license for 2 years. Or will that not happen because you're one of those "safe drivers"? Last edited by specialkonrd; Feb 06, 03 at 11:14 PM.
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Feb 06, 03
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fuck that pisses me off so bad
wtf...they don't even get jail time and their licenses are taken away for a petty of 3 year's....how HARSH. not. that's just shows you how great our court system is which scares the shit out of me. so their young...so wut....i'm young and my grandparents are old...ya there's a difference...but it's so PATHEIC how these fucker's get a slap on the hand!! totally not cool at all. they 100% deserved jail time. they should have no freedom at all...boo-hoo...they have house arrest...wow what a harsh punishment. man that's so unbelievable. now i'm pissed! 
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Feb 06, 03
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I'm not surprised they dont get jailtime. When people are involved in fatal accidents i doubt they ever get jailtime. Hence why its called an "accident". Lets compare two words shall we?
Street-racer Murderer Clearly, not the same thing, as a murderer intentionally kills someone, and a street-racer does it by accident. I totally agree with the sentence.
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Feb 08, 03
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If you kill someone, whether you meant to or not you are a MURDERER.
It's called involuntary Manslaughter, people go to jail for it, and I think people who kill other people by being fucking idiots and racing their fancy penis extensions on a public road should get at least SOME jail time. Just something. I know house arrest isn't a walk in the park, but come one.. Even a few months to a year in jail, even just to set an example.
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Feb 08, 03
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the kids were stupid, yes. but putting them in jail isn't going to make them better people. i think the verdict effectively punishes the kids by almost eliminating thier social life and black marking thier record. they're fucked for friends, work... like everything. sending these kids to jail will do nothing but introduce these kids to other, more willful criminals. i don't think the outcome would be beneficial to anyone.
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Feb 08, 03
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How about irresponsible? Ever hear of manslaughter? TOOONIGHT I'M CLEANING OUT MY CLOSSEET
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Feb 08, 03
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Ok if You are going to get technical, commiter of homicide. I think Killing someone while breaking the law (the laws where there for a reason, to protect you and the people surrounded by you) is close enough to being a murderer. I guess if you take a closer look at the meaning of the word it basically means you meant to kill, or at least hurt the person. But in reply to konrads comparison to street racer vs. murderer... you aren;t just a street racer if You killed someone doing it.
And I did get a little out of control, I'm very against putting people in jail with murders, rapists etc. when the crime they commited pales in comparison, especially if they are young. It just angers me that they still get to sleep in their bed, eat the food they want etc. And they can still have friends visit, go to school and work can't they? I think they have to give any money they make to their parents but.. i guess putting aside the fact what they did was horrible, locking them up with a bunch of serious criminals probably isn't the best way to handle it.
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