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I agree I hope leaves soon and I hope all go's better for Iraq
But what would be better in the long run for Iraq Saddam who's killed 350 000 of his own people; to pass on his legacy to his sons who are just as crazy or the States who I admit aren't angels but 10 years from now how many less people will be tortured and die I don't understand why when people post posts like this, they seem to forget what Saddam has done and continued to do every day AGROout |
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Further more the main reason that I see for the U.S. making up fake reasons to invade Iraq is that the real reasons that could have been cited would point out just how bad some of the U.S. foriegn policy has been. The U.S. gave Saddam the means to take power in Iraq. That is his weapons, money and training. They then gave him the materials to manufacture chemical weapons in the first place, including anthrax spores. Then when he started attacking his own people and enemies with these weapons they tried to keep things hush, hush and didn't even condem his actions till right before the first gulf war. When you look at the U.S. record of regime change over the last 50 years you'll discover that Saddam isn't even that bad... if I was an Iraqi I'd be doing the same thing they are... (fighting off the invaders that is) |
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You know when it comes right down to it things aren't all that perfect in a lot of places around the world, a lot of bad stuff happens every day. How many of these countries though would ask for the U.S. to invade thier countries if it was put to a vote? To be fair though the U.S. has had a hand in a few successful regime changes. For instances post WW2 Germany. In this case there's no way you can argue that the U.S. has installed a pupet government. Clearly the German people at this time do control their own destiny. However there was a huge differance with this case. The differance was that Germany engaged in mass genocide and tried to take over the world creating a unarguable need to change the regime there. Also the whole world was in support of that change. In this case the U.S. was alone, with the exception of Great Britain and a handful of brutal dictators, in proclaiming the need to invade Iraq. Did anyone notice in George W's state of the union address that when he talked of the great evil's of the last century he only mentioned communism and dictators? Is it that he can't bring himself to say the "F" word... fascism that is. |
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^^Well thats why I don't really agree that That the US should take things in their own hands
but I do think The World as a whole should get more involved in brutal regimns...If the whole world agrees its probably ok The whole world didn't agree with the iraq situation, becuase The US didn't convince them...wether they're truthful or not I'm gald Saddam is out of there and hopefully in the near future Iraq can be in control of their own destiny AGROout |
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The thing is that you might want to think that in some way what the U.S. did was a good thing but it's not. They have now opened a can of worms that will likely be a guerrilla war indefinately. This will not help Iraqis or Americans as people will die on both sides and it has greatly weakend the support for the war on terrorism that the U.S. had in the post 9/11 world. Look at Isreal and the Palestanians, that conflict has been ongoing for 30 years and shows no sign of stopping. That conflict is the result of a war that lasted just days and was won by the Isrealis (with U.S. weapons) but has since claimed many more lives than were lost in the actual war. |
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never mind the foreign policy records of the CIA, or things like the school of the americas http://www.soaw.org/new/ land of the free my ass. |
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