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Aug 25, 03
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^You see though.... I'm not saying YOU in particular. I'm speaking more in general of the fanatics... the paragraph above goes into that. I'm not saying that you can't be spiritual... everyone is to some degree I think. I'm talking about those who take it too far, and especially those who use their spirituality belief system to denounce other peoples beliefs, ESPECIALLY when it comes to organized religion. Thats real spiritual of you to judge someone because they believe different that you. It's real SPIRITUAL of you to call them sheep and followers. How's that for close mindedness?
Thats what I'm really trying to get at.... MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! 
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Aug 26, 03
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Aug 26, 03
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I cant help but denounce the catholic and christian faith because those faiths cant help but denounce what they do not understand. How can you say that someone who denounces those faiths are narrow minded yet those two faiths are so fucking narrow minded themselves?!
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Aug 26, 03
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Yeah I dont think its too cool to go bashing all religion and chritianity on this incodent.
I think a lot of ppl need religion. Personaly I belive im ok with out it. However I still belive and agree with meny things some religions teach or belive in mediforicly. Meny ppl need to be told what to belive in. Or stories are use to try and teach ppl whats right and wrong. I think thats ok but its unfortunate when ppl who teach thies teaching change them to there own likeing and power. Thats also why its inportant to always think for your self kids ;) I dont agree with charges being droped as an excuse. And after working with autistic children, I think it was quite inapropiate and closed minded how they apered to treat the boy. Im surprised the pashture didnt know any better or should of been better educated on autistic behavour.
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Aug 26, 03
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But even the most strict church in the world can not really use the cover of Christianty for their actions... for the most part it's the falure to follow the message of love and forgiveness, that leads them in their ways, --this is human thing-- not a church thing.
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Aug 26, 03
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let me guess. ur ex-catholic. yeah? am i right? you know nothing about the other christian faiths. denoucing what they dont understand? i'm not sure if my church has denouced anything. aside from anything that breaks the 10 commandments and the teachings of Jesus. which, i may add, is mostly about compassion, mercy and love. just because u think aethism is the way to go, does NOT mean it is! personally, i think all aethists are wrong in what they believe, BUT I DONT SAY THAT TO THEM. why do u think u can say that to christians? k, i'm done. :keebler:
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Aug 27, 03
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Before I say anything.....No matter what I defend, I do not agree with what was done to the boy.
There are alot of veiws on this board and that is good. It makes a for a diverse group of people. I have been a bible student for my whole life. I study God's word daily. "All scripture is inspired by god and beneficial for teaching reproving and setting things straight." We have been warned that there will be people claiming to be doing things in the name of Christ but He himself will not know them. We have to use decernment in our lives to determine wether or not, what people do in their religious practices is from a Divine origin or if from a human origin. (Of these two Contrast it is Vital to know from wich a relicious teaching has come from.) Have you Seriously looked into the BIble and used decernment to decide wether what they did in this case was a Command written down by god in the 12th chapter of Matthew...or wether this was an action taken by a human minister that 'Claims' to represent God and Christ...based soley on 'His' Knowledge and Understanding? 'Do not lean upon your own understanding for it is not for man to direct his own step.' As we can see man has dominated man to his own injury. In this case I think it is evident that Divine inspiration was not present and 'God's will' did not take place. No matter what religion you are, continue to look for the truth.
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Aug 27, 03
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how about this
PITTSBURGH -- A Roman Catholic priest was charged Wednesday with involuntary manslaughter in the death of a drunken Pitt football player who fell through a church ceiling after a cookout at which the priest was accused of serving alcohol to underage drinkers. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...rtnersite=espn
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Aug 28, 03
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I honestly think that the parents were not happy with what they concieved...It's a real asshole thing to say, but maybe they were using there "religeous beliefs" as a form of after birth abortion, It still dosn't justify anything because it is still a shame and very cruel to only think what that poor child went through, I think that they should investigate more into the situation,
As for Religion I think it is used alot of the time for a skape goat, and maybe to some people it is worth something and they get something out of it, but I think it counted more back in the day, yes people now are still very into finding god, and having there beliefs, but now more so then any people use it as a guide because they can't think for themselfs. Everyone has there own thoughts and opinions, and they are intitled to them. If the parents and preacher want to blame there actions on religion let them, they can still have there religion to keep them company in jail. (Im not too sure if that made any sence) Last edited by Deaner; Aug 28, 03 at 12:13 AM.
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