Just a thought...

[MC Hammered]

How come when some major shit happens to the USA, it is now EVERYBODY"S problem?

Sure... a couple of planes whacked the WTC's and innocent people got killed.

In Ireland, the IRA and other groups fight and kill many people. In the Middle East, the figting going on, the car bombings, etc.

People are getting killed all over the world EVERY DAY! Do those countries cry out "Help me!"?

I personally think this is USA's fight and not ours. Sure, we are affected by terrorism like the rest of the world, but I don't believe for a moment that a terrorist group has GM Place targeted to be bombed over a place in the US.

Please remember, this is my opinion and not the views of the F+K crew.

Flame me if you want, I've got my stereo on.:119:

[mister-peenutt]

the reason that this is such a big deal in the world is because the whole concept of the us being "invincable" has been comprimised. and everyone is shocked.

and it was such a huge attack that the whole world wanted to help.

thousands upon thousands of people have been killed by this attack and thats why everyone wants to do their part to help.


:Peenutt:
thats my view.

[bob]

i think other countries are supporting the US because they're afraid...

nobody wants to be an enemy of the US, so they have to be allies... it's hard to be neutral this day in age, what with the global economy, and political shit...

and i mean, if u suck up to the US now, and help them out... ur probably thinking that the americans will take that into consideration in the future... most likely, they won't.... but it's a nice thought anyways...

[Cowboy]

i hate how canada is nothign but the us's puppet...

and have u ever noticed our CANADIAN news stations....its like they sat a fuckin camera in front of a tv and put it on cnn and broadcast that....

sure its a big thing and all...but really...i don't care all that much...i know if ihad been personally affected by the whole ordeal id probably care...but i guess i have to develop some sort of empathy for other people...becuz really...id prob be more concerned if i saw a dog get hit by a car...rather than thousands of people being crushed......

and like mc...jus an opinion...

corrie

[c.tard]

I know what ya mean..

but in Ireland, it's been happening a while. same goes for the middle east. it's nothing really "new" although i still think they should have more coverage of it. y'know, sometimes it's nice to know what's going on in other parts of the world.

but what happened in the us is something new. it doesn't happen everyday. and GEEZ!! i think we all know how the US media doesn't shut their damned mouths about ANYTHING.

i mean have you noticed? like with say, the columbine shooting right. sure it's a tragic y'know. all those young ppl being shoot and killed by a classmate. but NO!! the us media makes such a big fucking deal about it, they don't shut up for fucking ever. it's like, they repeat everything so damned much. and they never hush up about it. but when we in canada have a school shooting, it's breaking news for a few days y'know, but that's it!! it's not the end of the god damn world!

ack, i'm getting so sick of the media! the us one espeshully. i mean i know this is all so bad cuz it could escalate into WWIII but still, they repeat everything so much i could even go up and do the damned news myself! i mean cum on, i've seen the video of the planes crashing into the WTC so much i can close my eyes and see it if i like. they over do everything. and i don't see the point. but there the US.

and yes, this is the USA's fight. or it should be! the us is just as bad as like cocky lil teenagers who fight! they just all, gotta get all these other countries behind em y'know? make em look bigger, stronger cuz oh oh look! they got their backup! shiet.. it's pointless. this happened to them and only them. they should fight their own battles, we shouldn't fight em for em.

[BeatFarmer]

i jus thtink that if something like this happened to us, i'd want other countries like the US to help us out. so if we help them olut it's kinda like they owe us a favour, ya know?

we can't really just wait till it invloves us cuz who's gonna help us if we don't help anyone else?

and US is an obviously powerful country and a good ally to have on your side. it's stupid how it's like countries have to suck up to america, but it's also a wise choice to make.

all i'm saying is if we help them out, they can help us out if we have a problem.

[bob]

chances are the US won't help us out even if we ever did need help. which we most likely won't if we keep the steady pace we're on right now...

just remember... who helped out in WWI WWII? canada had no involvement with either war, but we send hundreds of thousands of canadian soldiers to die on the beaches of normandy, dieppe, places THOUSANDS of miles away from us. we got nothing out of it but pride.

WWI had more to do with canada being part of the british commonwealth, but still... have the british helped us out in any way in the past 75 years? not really...

sure, if canada ever did get in a war (AHHHHHHAHAHAHA), i'm sure we'd have the entire world backing us up... but that's exactly it. if the entire world has our back, then we have no freaking enemies to threaten us in the first place...

[manik]

The United States are the super-power of our era, they are what England was, what Greece was, what Rome was, the rest of the world looks up to them whether in admiration or in fear, and no one can argue that they have an incredible impact on every culture in the world. The reason we care so much about the recent terrorist attacks is that the United States are of such an influence, they're the model for most countries in the world, and when they are under attack, we feel as if we are under attack. There is also the fact that the United States are one of the few countries who have the power to retaliate in a devastating way, they have the money and the power and the will to do irreperable damage if so provoked. The reason I care so much is that I'm afraid, afraid of what the United States will do, and afraid of the possibility of them falling from their "Super power" state, though this seems unlikely, because honestly there is no other country whom I would want to see with such power... China? Russia? No thank you, in this case, the USA is the lesser of two evils.

Blah, I'll stop rambling now. Sorry for the incoherence. :)

[yoko*]

*sigh* .. i'm just wondering why it had to come to war.. like jen said in a previous post, i don't think it solves anytihng.. no one really wins...

i think both sides and many others are just going to come out with worse perspectives... more angry than they began... more full of hate... as if there weren't already...

[rawb]

for a couple of reasons off the top of my head.

the wold trade center towers were not only the symbols of one of the most popular cities of the world (think if the eiffel tower got bombed, or the kremlin), but it is possibly the biggest symbol of the world's economy, with hundreds of the worlds leading financial organizations not only having thier us headquarters there, but thier world headquarters there.

another reason is the sheer number of people killed. in the 'free western world', 5,000 deaths in one day doesn't happen much, if at all.

the third reason is that the pentagon got bombed as well. this is the head of the us military, and also within spitting distance fo the whitehouse.

the common person has looked upon these symbols as symbols of strength. the 'western free world' looks up to the us as not only a ally, but almost a older brother that protects (not nessicairly admirably) the way of life we all live.

wow, i sound really right wing.

i don't think it is now 'everybody's problem' because the us got bombed. i think that does raise the intensity of the matter though.

i don't think many people respect how big this event is, this is a tragedy of human life, a huge change in the way we think, because it has never happened before.

maybe more later.

r.

[MC Hammered]

Originally posted by werdyboy

the wold trade center towers were not only the symbols of one of the most popular cities of the world (think if the eiffel tower got bombed, or the kremlin), but it is possibly the biggest symbol of the world's economy, with hundreds of the worlds leading financial organizations not only having thier us headquarters there, but thier world headquarters there.

That's just it. It's more 'symbolic' than anything else. IMO, if a terrorist took a jet and rammed it into a stadium during the Superbowl I think that would be more hideous.

The WTC towers were picked (IMO) for a reason. Also targeting a single Superbowl game would be a bit harder to schedule.

the third reason is that the pentagon got bombed as well. this is the head of the us military, and also within spitting distance fo the whitehouse.

I honestly don't feel sorry for the people that got killed at the Pentagon. If you work there you have got to understand that at any point in time there is AT LEAST 2 missiles targeted for that complex. Almost eveyone that works in there is part of the armed forces and knows that they might die.

The people working in the WTC's are civilian and didn't deserve the hand they were dealt.

i don't think it is now 'everybody's problem' because the us got bombed. i think that does raise the intensity of the matter though.

i don't think many people respect how big this event is, this is a tragedy of human life, a huge change in the way we think, because it has never happened before.

I agree with you. I do not think people respect how big the event was. I don't for one. I did feel sick when I watched people jump out of the WTC towers though. I know what it is like to fall out of control and possibly die. I can relate to that.

This event does change the way we should think. This event does in a way violate some freedoms that we (as in our generation) took for granted as we grew up.

I do not think things will ever be the same way again after this event.

It is also my opinion that no one took credit for the terrorist attack at first because they didn't even believe it would be so devastating and they feared the massive retaliation if the world found out who they were.

That is all.

[tribal_guy]

it is the worlds problem because of hitting the WTC the terrorists know that the us headquarters for tonnes o countries are located in it. so when all of your countryman, be it european, canadian, american, chinese, african all die in the collapse of the WTC we all obviously have to step up and say "hey we aint takin that". it doesnt matter where the terrorists would hit. it couldve been the eiffel tower or the cn tower but they were goin for most kills. but hittin the pentagon made it personal for the US becuz yes, it is the base of military operations and hitting that without anyone knowing in advance would scare a heck o a lot o people.

another reason the world is now involved is becuz president bush is taking out terrorism not terrorists. not one single group, the whole shibang. so now as the us declares this, the world will follow becuz they(assumingly) agree they hate terrorists and wanted them to be gone but never did anything. it was prolly in the back of all the other countries minds that it would b nice to get rid of the terror but no one stepped up to say im not gunna take it anymore. until the US got fucked up. if someone stepped up and declared it before and made a big world scene on the world stage, then the WTC would prolly be standing to this day. terrorists have met their goals in disrupting the american and free world by fukin them up undetected by the many intelligence agencies around the world. maybe the agencies thought it might happen but never thought the terrorists would go through with it. "didnt have the balls" so it would say. but bin laden gots the biggest balls of all terrorists. he is only one man and his crew organized the whole ordeal with help of others and he is just chillin in afghanistan prolly fuckin the many whores hes got in his underground lair hes prepared for this. hes got the cashflow plus others who support him prolly dont got any money in the banks. its all tax free and in his many safes, or trunks all locked up with 1 key, around his neck. no when shit goes down (i.e. us attacks) he still got the cashflow and the blackmarket will flourish with all the money he spends for more weapons. he'll prolly screw over britain next with a biological weapon or sumthin.

osama bin laden is one smart mofo. if he was as smart as everyone thinks, hes already planned ahead for the whole aftermath months ago. but he didnt know that the us would prolly tweak out this much. but hes prolly got a back up plan. i personally think that pakistan is just playing with the us. think of all the people who believe in osama in pakistan, think of when the americans come in and try to occupy afghanistan and try to find bin laden. when the initial hardcore strike happens the people of pakistan will prolly revolt and try to take over a base which has got a nuclear weapon and launch it in the name of allah at britain, cuz they know aiming it at us will easily be shot down. britain is much closer and is pretty much the brother of the us so why not kill family to make the us angry even more and go to extremes like bomb them back and start a nuclear holocaust with all the american people already in pakistan killing their own countrymen.

i also think that IRAQ has got to do something with those attacks becuz they are the only country sayin no sympathy to the government. what was hit? government buildings, hijacked government planes, the source of the government (PENTAGON). just seems too easy related to be false. seems saddam huissien gave them a clue when he sent his letter to the us people after the attacks.


holy crap i wrote a lot. theres more on my mind but thats all i can type, plus i actually wanna leave my house today and get baked.

well there u go people sum reading material so u can sleep tight and be proud of canada. cuz we aint got no probs wit anyone and no one will ever hit us. sure the terrorists can use our country to get into the us but thats the us's problem(border patrol). outie :sixpak: