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k i didnt get that
im good till the fcking coefficient part then i got lost and messed up the entire question
the only reason you divide by the coefficient (which is 5 btw, or multiply by 1/5 like i did) is because for every C3H8 used, 5 O2s are used - so you need 5 times as many O2 molecules as C3H8 molecules to get all of them to react. If we didn't adjust for this the answer would give us O2 in excess which isn't the case... the way I look at it is a little simpler, maybe this will help: think of multiplying the coefficient in when figuring out the g/mol of each molecule in the reaction equation, so that:

C3H8: 3(12) + 8(1) = 44g/mol
5O2: 2(16)*5 = 160g/mol

now don't bother with the coefficient later on and you will get the same answer.
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^^^^ mmmm k
so the oxygen cuz its the limiting reactant get x/5 and C3H8 gets x/its moles right?
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^^^^ mmmm k
so the oxygen cuz its the limiting reactant get x/5 and C3H8 gets x/its moles right?
your getting there, but that's not quite the way to think about it.

Whether or not O2 is the limiting reagent, you would still use the coefficient - we are using C3H8's coefficient in the equation as well, it just happens to be 1 so you don't notice it. We would use ALL the coefficients of ALL the molecules when figuring these problems out, because they are the RATIOs of one type of molecule to the others - in this case it's a 5 to 1 ratio. Like I said above, the reason the coefficients are there are to balance the equation - which like i said above means that we will need 5 oxygen molecules (O2's) for every propane molecule (C3H8).

I'm not sure how else I can explain this.
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k i kinda get it now
so would i devide the moles by the coefficient
or the coefficient by the moles?
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anyone who knows ANYTHING about chemisty (11 or higher i dunno you all learn it at one point) pl
i need help with the equations that come with chem
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^ o0o0o0o0 common now kriag
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i suck at math and english im pretty good at socials tho
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i dont get this chem sht
i just had to pick a science and this was the one where u got to blow shit up
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k i kinda get it now
so would i devide the moles by the coefficient
or the coefficient by the moles?
you would divide all the results for moles by their respective coefficient... however the way I did it was to multiply it by the molar mass (g/mol) - look back at my solution or the easier version thereof...

it basically means: I have 32g/mol of O2, but I need 5(32)=160g of O2 per mol of C3H8
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I really woulnd't sit on this question for much longer if i was you, you pretty much have the jist of it and their is probably a lot more to learn
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^ thanks cuz the fact your teacher was smoking is relaly going to help me pass tomorrow :p;)

pbreak what would i define as a subatomic particle?
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^ thanks cuz the fact your teacher was smoking is relaly going to help me pass tomorrow :p;)

pbreak what would i define as a subatomic particle?
protons, neutrons and electrons make up atoms and are therefore subatomic particles... there are other subatomic particles but you don't need to worry bout those.

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Hey Cinist - what was his name?? Wasn't Bondi was it?
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