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Mar 11, 04
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yea its a disappointment
but its fair 
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Mar 11, 04
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People had to expect that.... I figured he was gone at least over this season and playoffs for sure. The league has to start trying to set an example saying that they won't put up with behaviour that gets a player hurt.
The fact that Bert was obviously remorseful for his actions most likely helped his case though. You can't fake those tears Bert had during his public apology last night. I say thumbs up to him for taking his punishment like a man and addressing the fans like he did. I really don't think this takes the team out of the playoffs though. With the addition of Rucinsky and Sanderson we should be able to cover Bert... I mean they are 40 and 30 point season guys respectively. The team is obviously emotional and shaken but they did come out strong yesterday and will get used to not having Bert at their sides. I bet it will be hard for Bert to have to sit on the sidelines though if the team goes all the way... all his hard work down the tubes.
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Mar 11, 04
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The only reason something "had to be done" was because of the media shitstorm that crucified Bertuzzi and scapegoated him for all of the NHL's violence "problems". The Canucks better appeal this -- not that it will accomplish anything. And seriously, if I hear one more fucking person with an opinion that hasn't watched more than 2-3 regular season hockey games this season, I'm going to fucking punch you in the side of the head and ram your face into the ground too.
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Mar 12, 04
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For anyone that knows hockey there have been a few hits in the past that are similar or worst that have not gotten such a stiff penality. Don't get me wrong, Bert deserves the book thrown at him. But the NHL needs to be consitent. No fines were given to the Flyers/Ottawa game after the Havlat incident. Tim Hunter's hit on Pierre Turgeon got him games into the next season. Why can't that occur with Bertuzzi? Like Peter Worell said, "Hockey isn't the Ice Capades" As for CNN! Fuck You! Ya'll American's need to seriously look at your own national sport before attacking Canada's national sport. Baseball has a huge scandal with the use of steroids and nothing will be done. The media needs to concentrate on more important matters like the bombing in Spain. :finger: Ya'll bandwagon jumpers need to seriously start supporting your team. Moore is going to need some help and don't forget Bert. `t1m
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Mar 12, 04
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Watch this hit and then watch the hit on Brash by McSorely 4 years ago....watch the two press conferences and see the way McSorely responded and compare it with Bert this situation did not warrant a more severe punishment Although I agree that an appeal would be the way to go - i don't think that course of action will result in any positive media coverage and i think that may ultimately be harder on Bert to be continuously portrayed negatively you know - as the kid who wouldn't take his punishment kind of thing *sigh* I still adore #44!!!
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Mar 12, 04
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I say we need this guy back so that we can provide more defense and more down'low pressure.....GO JOVO!!!! Hurry up we need you!!!!
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Mar 12, 04
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this is sad day for vancouver
Todd made a mistake everyone makes mistakes hopefully the team and city will rally around him we got to forget about Tuzzi and move on its time to live life without Todd Last edited by jaydream; Mar 12, 04 at 01:44 AM.
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^agrees^
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Mar 12, 04
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Burke is the man; I loved that press conference. I think it's pretty safe to assume the Canucks will be appealing the shit out of this as soon as they are able to.
Suspensions in the NHL are ruled on the following, in the specified order: 1) The action itself. -- Bad, but still not as bad as a stick infraction (ie. Marty McSorley's stick chop to Brashear's head) 2) The intent of the player. -- Was obviously a heat of the moment thing with no intent to the injure. 3) The extent of the injury. -- Moore will be skating again in 4-6 weeks. Can someone please tell me how the hell that warrants the longest ever suspension in the NHL? WHAT A FUCKING JOKE.
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Mar 12, 04
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^ ya now bertuzzi has to go through this yea r with so much guilt. Big part to do with the media, blaming everything it seems for hockey problem as bertuzzi.
look at this way now he has to feel guilty for the canucks, steve moore, and mroe importantly he can't do what every hockeyh player dreams of playing in the NHL PLAYOFFS and achieveing the STANLEY CUP!! they made bertuzzi to be too much of an example, but i kinda expected this to come out, at least now the BANDWAGON PEOPLE will be like the canucks are dead, but the true fans and i mean true fans will stick by and watch. Its not the end of the world, but a big hole needs to be filled badly
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Mar 12, 04
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I feel so bad for bert...the apology yesterday made me want to give him a big hug. he knows that what he did was wrong...but there were so many other factors, that it wasn't compleatly his fault. poor guy. poor team! go canucks!
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they should have left it out of the press until moore was able to speak and such but u obviously know in media its first come first serve
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Mar 12, 04
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that's why we have rucinsky now^ doesn't fill in size-wise, but does have the skill to produce for the canucks.
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Mar 12, 04
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they make todd sound so fuckin bad, there was no intent to injure.
and that's what it should really be about. i mean hell you could probably legally kill someone with a crazy clean check, but if it's clean that's it. no problem. it's not your fault you hit like a fuckin train. i don't like the open ended bullshit of the suspension. what's to review? it's not like todd's gonna be laughing and making t-shirts with [see sig] on them.
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Mar 12, 04
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^ very possbly yes?
i just hope this time they start the discussions on the collective bargaining agreement early instead of how it happened in 94-95 when the lockout happened. the whole thing that bothers me is the last collective bargaining and strike if anything did nothing. It was suppose to have rookie salary caps, and in general salary caps, so the salary of each team doesn't sky rocket. Did that work? whats happened is the NHL has balloned in average salary 200% in 1994, it cost an average of $13.9 million dollars including Salary, Bonuses and Other Benefits. 2002 it cost an avegage of $49 million. If thats not staggering the fact that out of a revenue of $1.996 BILLION, $1.494 BILLION went into player costs. Compare that to 1993/1994 out of the $732 million dollar revenue, $414 million. What this means is terms of NHL player costs as a revenue percentage % is below in 1993-1994 season out of the entire revenue, player costs took up 57% of the entire revenue. but in 2002-2003 the player costs get to 75% of the entire revenue. 3/4 of the revenue for players? Some SALARY CAP eh?
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