Ichiro?

KenJi · #1 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

Anyone watch baseball probably not. I don't either cept for this guy and the Mariners, but ya 247 hits.

If you follow baseball you will know he is chasing the record for single hits in a season 257 hits.

Its an 84 year old record so thats pretty big.

Regardless I hope he gets it common 200 plus hits in his first four seasons in the pro leagues.

but anyways no one probably cares so peace in the middle east.

sidekick · #2 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

he's also one of the only baseball players to have his first name on the back of his jersey instead of his last name (suzuki)

SteveO13 · #3 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

Dude Ichiro is fuckin amazing man

KenJi · #4 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

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Originally Posted by Sidekick

he's also one of the only baseball players to have his first name on the back of his jersey instead of his last name (suzuki)

VERY NICE!!

Thanx for pointing that out. Good karma for that.

So there actually are some smart people on here haha.

SteveO13 · #5 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

Hahahah Good Shit jake Good Shit

sidekick · #6 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

the shirt i'm wearing today and my favourite baseball team too :)

KenJi · #7 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

Ya maybe if we had a MLB team here in van i would be more a baseball fan.

I still watch it though.

Back on topic though ^ will ichiro break it 10 games to go, 11 hits needed.

basically one hit a game, cept one game he needs 2. i think he can do it

sidekick · #8 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

he's a good player, i can see him pulling it off.

G-Stuff · #9 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

The funny this is that he had 9 hits in his last 2 games so not only could he break it he could totally shatter it!

Go Japan Go

KenJi · #10 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

Yes he did get 9 hits in his last 2 games, but there ar eonly 10 games to go and he still needs 11 hits.

If he slumps its gonna be tough. Not to mention if its a close game, than they will just walk him. God I hate when they walk him. Or walk barry bonds, or anyone. Its so cheap. They need to make it so you can leave the batting area to h it the balls. Its so damn cheap and unfair.

Undecided · #11 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

I think they should move the Expos to Vancouver and rename them the Mounties

KenJi · #12 (**permalink**) Sep 25, 04

Expo's lol. They went down when the team they could have had had to leave.

Ichiro is getting closer down to 8 more hits. Such a sprinter too

e_BoY · #13 (**permalink**) Sep 26, 04

lol i watch baseball every now and then. and i keep up with stats etc... i can never watch a game from start to end but i can watch quite a bit of it at times.

Ichiro is awesome and i think he will break the record as well.

on another note i think this is the year that Boston will take out the Yankees. They may or may not take the division title but regardless i think they will take them if they meet in the playoffs. Yankees pitching staff is their only weak point this year.

Grapes · #14 (**permalink**) Sep 26, 04

What do you gain by walking Ichiro?? It's not like he's a threat to get anything other than a single, and by walking him you're just making that automatic.

KenJi · #15 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

I know eh. At least with bonds it a homer and an automatic run if he slams one and depending on how many bases are loaded could be a grand slam, but with ichiro they are all single hits.

Wait till Ichiro gets close to 257 than they are really gonna start walking him

Grapes · #16 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

No, they won't.

Let's try this again.

A team has no stategic advantage to walking Ichiro. You pitch to him, he might get a single and take 1st base. You walk him, he gets first base automatically.

Now, no team is going to want to be seen as such assholes that they went out of their way to deny a guy a chance at such an amazing feat. Given that it's a strategical DISADVANTAGE to walk Ichiro (as we established above) then for a team to do that ... they would obviously be behaving like a bunch of pissants.

Why would they walk him??

Now take a situation where Barry Bonds is going for a record.. say next year he's approaching Hank Aaron's record for most career home runs, and this happens to be occuring around crunch time in the pennant races. No-one's going to fault, say, the Chicago Cubs for walking Barry Bonds in this situation.. because they have to look out for their team first and foremost, and Bonds could very likely knock out out of the park for a 3 run shot.

This is boring, I hope you get it by now.

KenJi · #17 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

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Originally Posted by Grapes

No, they won't.

Now, no team is going to want to be seen as such assholes that they went out of their way to deny a guy a chance at such an amazing feat. Given that it's a strategical DISADVANTAGE to walk Ichiro (as we established above) then for a team to do that ... they would obviously be behaving like a bunch of pissants.

Perhaps, but they do it anyways, and you can't tell me they don't cause you know they do.

Obviously with Bonds its a little different. Difference between homeruns and singles, but the bottomline is ichiro has been walked countless times this year alone/

thats what I am basically getting at.

e_BoY · #18 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

but how many of those walks have been with runners on base or even worse in scoring position?

Grapes · #19 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

And how many of those walks come because he's got a good eye and doesn't chase bad pitches?

timmy! · #20 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

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And how many of those walks come because he's got a good eye and doesn't chase bad pitches?

he's a free swinger though, that's the thing with ichiro he can and will hit anything. rarely walks for a leadoff hitter, unless it's intentional. he always puts the ball in play, which makes him dangerous with runners in scoring position. teams don't walk him cuz he's a threat to hit home runs, they walk him cuz it's usually in a situation where there's an open base at first and they can take a chance with the next batter.

timmy! · #21 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

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Originally Posted by Grapes

No, they won't.

Let's try this again.

A team has no stategic advantage to walking Ichiro. You pitch to him, he might get a single and take 1st base. You walk him, he gets first base automatically.

Now, no team is going to want to be seen as such assholes that they went out of their way to deny a guy a chance at such an amazing feat. Given that it's a strategical DISADVANTAGE to walk Ichiro (as we established above) then for a team to do that ... they would obviously be behaving like a bunch of pissants.

Why would they walk him??

Now take a situation where Barry Bonds is going for a record.. say next year he's approaching Hank Aaron's record for most career home runs, and this happens to be occuring around crunch time in the pennant races. No-one's going to fault, say, the Chicago Cubs for walking Barry Bonds in this situation.. because they have to look out for their team first and foremost, and Bonds could very likely knock out out of the park for a 3 run shot.

This is boring, I hope you get it by now.

just a few more things to add about walking him. there is definately a strategic advantage of walking ichiro. let's say there's a runner on second with two outs. ichiro steps up to bat in a close game. if ichiro gets a base hit, the runner scores from second. if they walk him intentionally, now there's a runner at first and second. however the new batter is probably batting .250 and will probably get out. any manager would take those odds and pitch to the new batter.

KenJi · #22 (**permalink**) Sep 27, 04

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Originally Posted by timmy!

he's a free swinger though, that's the thing with ichiro he can and will hit anything. rarely walks for a leadoff hitter, unless it's intentional. he always puts the ball in play, which makes him dangerous with runners in scoring position. teams don't walk him cuz he's a threat to hit home runs, they walk him cuz it's usually in a situation where there's an open base at first and they can take a chance with the next batter.

He's also very good at fighting off bad pitches and instead of popping out he fouls it till he gets a clean hit.

Grapes · #23 (**permalink**) Sep 28, 04

Good point timmy.. wasn't thinking about situations with runners on base.

NeVeRLooKBacK · #24 (**permalink**) Sep 28, 04

Im looking forward to the race for the american league west
you have oakland in first with the angels and rangers only a couple games behind
this week is gonna be huge for the west
looking forward to it :)

NeVeRLooKBacK · #25 (**permalink**) Sep 28, 04

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Originally Posted by timmy!

he's a free swinger though, that's the thing with ichiro he can and will hit anything. rarely walks for a leadoff hitter, unless it's intentional. he always puts the ball in play, which makes him dangerous with runners in scoring position. teams don't walk him cuz he's a threat to hit home runs, they walk him cuz it's usually in a situation where there's an open base at first and they can take a chance with the next batter.

it isnt just the fact that he is an amazing contact hitter
he has INCREDIBLE speed too
those 2 put together makes him a tough out
youre best bet for the most part is to pitch to him and hope that he flies out
anything on the ground (unless back to the pitcher or at 1B) is gonna be a tough out to make