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Old Dec 18, 04
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there is no doubt in my mind this would be consider work of hackers. I mean they (the group involved) had to "hack" the code to hide the address. on a smaller scale.. sure. still hackers.
OMG! Today I hacked the lightswitch to turn off the lights in my room!

They "wrote" the code to hide the address. They "hacked" the accounts they stole.

Hacking is finding unconventional answers to conventional problems. Coming up with a way to get people to willingly give you their credit card numbers is a decent hack. The actual implementation they used is not a decent hack. Do you get the difference?

Technically, this stuff is called "social engineering", or more specifically, "phishing".
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Old Dec 18, 04
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:)

(warning! geeky! stop now if you don't know what the unix command 'su' does!)

Best hack I ever witnessed in person: Wildcard Mike was trying to figure out how to become 'root' on an early version of OSX, I don't remember why. When he asked the owner of the box (a formidable geek in his own right) for the root password, the guy did not know, as it had never come up before... OSX administration on the commandline is based around 'sudo', which lets regular users execute commands as root.

Mike types "su". It asks for a password. Owner has no idea what it is.

Mike says "How do you do stuff as root then?". Owner says "The docs just say to do 'sudo <command>', and it'll execute those commands as root...".

Mike thinks for a second...

...and types "sudo su", and becomes root.

Damn, dude. Nice one.
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Old Dec 18, 04
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OMG! Today I hacked the lightswitch to turn off the lights in my room!

They "wrote" the code to hide the address. They "hacked" the accounts they stole.

Hacking is finding unconventional answers to conventional problems. Coming up with a way to get people to willingly give you their credit card numbers is a decent hack. The actual implementation they used is not a decent hack. Do you get the difference?

Technically, this stuff is called "social engineering", or more specifically, "phishing".
Don't give me your Websters answer to the pollitically correct use of the the term "hackers". On top to that, don't step into my thread looking for a fight. Go back to slashdot you net nerd.
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