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Old Jan 08, 05
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problem with NEW!?!?! records

i've bought a few records from boom town now and so far i've got 3 records that have bad scratches which cause the needle to jump or slide or whatever you want to call it. all 3 have been breaks tunes and the last one was a freestylers record that skips in 4 spots. when i go to buy records i listen through quickly and look to make sure the record isn't warped or anything. but when i get home i always throw all the record on and listen through from start to finish. its my problem for not having the reciept so i can go return it but im just wondering if these records are used and if so they should be sold as used records. anyone else experience the same problem or want to explain how im wrong for feeling this way ?
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Stupid question here but are there actually visual scratches on the records IE: can you see them?

If there isn't, it's probably not scratches on the record but more like you need to calibrate your tables properly with your needles so they don't skip. Even if the record isn't scratched or warped, the pressing may suck or your tables are just so poorly calibrated, that this happens with certain records.
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Stupid question here but are there actually visual scratches on the records IE: can you see them?

If there isn't, it's probably not scratches on the record but more like you need to calibrate your tables properly with your needles so they don't skip. Even if the record isn't scratched or warped, the pressing may suck or your tables are just so poorly calibrated, that this happens with certain records.
What Kraig said.

Seriously, I have NEVER bought a record without looking at it VERY carefully first, let alone listening to it.

If anyone buys a record without checking it THOROUGHLY first (sound and by looking), they're just plain stupid.
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i have shopped at boomtown for over a year and probly bought over 100 records.. never have i had any with scratches...on rare occasion i do get a warped one but sometimes i can fix them.... (i do special orders so the only people that handle my tracks are the people that work there)

maybe you neeed to listen to the whole track before you buy it, cause once you buy the records they do not give refunds
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heres an example: when i look at the record, there is a line that goes from the outside to the inside and when the needle comes in contact with that line it slides to where the line ends.

you can clearly see the scratch on the vinyl.

and as far as being stupid for not THOROUGHLY looking at each record if i saw a huge rip on the surface i wouldn't buy it. i spend a couple hundred bucks on records everytime i go and i dont check each of them with a fine tooth comb so ya thats my issue. the point is i've heard a "certain" DJ uses these records before he sticks them up for sale and if thats true then why arent they sold as used vinyl.
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none of the record shops in town have an official return policy on vinyl, so you definitely have to be careful....the first thing you should do when you're buying records is visually inspect the sides before you even throw it on. often even brand new straight-out-of-the-box vinyl will have scratches on it, and anything that has been around the store for any length of time can have wear and tear just from the listening stations. but most of the times they're superficial surface scratches that don't go deep enough in to the groove to be audible, but sometimes they are...other times it's a problem in the pressing.

if it's a track you really like you can always sell your crap copy to otis and buy a brand new one, expensive, but sometimes worht it...
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and as far as being stupid for not THOROUGHLY looking at each record if i saw a huge rip on the surface i wouldn't buy it. i spend a couple hundred bucks on records everytime i go and i dont check each of them with a fine tooth comb so ya thats my issue. the point is i've heard a "certain" DJ uses these records before he sticks them up for sale and if thats true then why arent they sold as used vinyl.
That doesn't make sense bro... here's why... if a scratch of that size and depth were on the record in the store, then you would have heard it when you listened to it in the first place at the store.

No doubt, realizing a scratch is on a record after you've bought it really sucks. I would suggest being more cautious BEFORE you buy it: IE visually inspect it, then listen to it for a bit. Again, if a scratch of the size you describe is on that record, you're gonna hear it in the store.
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the point is i've heard a "certain" DJ uses these records before he sticks them up for sale and if thats true then why arent they sold as used vinyl.

why don't you stand up and say who that "certain DJ" is if you're basically going to slander everyone who works there?

secondly, even if this did happen, how would you ever know? i mean, you bought a record with a scratch in ti. even skipping over the fact that that scratch could have been on it when it shipped, how do you know that the customer who listened to it in the store last didn't put it there?

thirdly, i know for a fact that at a LOT of the record stores in town the employees/djs might grab a bunch of copies of new tracks, take them home and listen to them, decide which ones they like, and bring the rejects back the next day. does that one listen in the employee's bedroom make it more "used" than being pawed a dozen times by greasy fingered punters in the store?

and as i've said before, even new vinyl has scratches and imperfections...it doesn't matter where you buy it.

if you've got some proof that someone is selling "used" for "new" then let's hear it...if not stop running your mouth just becuase you weren't paying enough attention

caveat emptor my friend, caveat emptor.
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I think this goes for everything you buy. Thorough inspection, everytime!

I can see what you're saying about the records not being sold as Used-vinyl. Sounds a bit strange to me.
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yes that all very true, but when i saw the records i looked at it under the light, i put it on and pretty much listened to parts of the records i didn't hear the whole record at the store. so i must of bought the record even though it was damaged and i didn't know.... once again my fault.

but im trying to make a point that once the record has left the store and been used at a party/club/event it has been used. i called ahead and asked if they had a record there and they said yes. i went there the next day and i was told that someone who works there had it but if i came back they will be returning it to the racks.

the other thing is im not just some dork who's dad bought him turntables for christmas, i actually understand how things work. and i have admitted to being wrong for buying it without checking it over and over. i've bought records new and used form many stores and people from fnk and the only ones that i've had this problem with are 3 of my records that came from boom town. i just dont want to be paying for brand new shit when its not brand new.
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"i know for a fact that at a LOT of the record stores in town the employees/djs might grab a bunch of copies of new tracks, take them home and listen to them, decide which ones they like, and bring the rejects back the next day. does that one listen in the employee's bedroom make it more "used" than being pawed a dozen times by greasy fingered punters in the store?"
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why don't you stand up and say who that "certain DJ" is if you're basically going to slander everyone who works there?

secondly, even if this did happen, how would you ever know? i mean, you bought a record with a scratch in ti. even skipping over the fact that that scratch could have been on it when it shipped, how do you know that the customer who listened to it in the store last didn't put it there?

thirdly, i know for a fact that at a LOT of the record stores in town the employees/djs might grab a bunch of copies of new tracks, take them home and listen to them, decide which ones they like, and bring the rejects back the next day. does that one listen in the employee's bedroom make it more "used" than being pawed a dozen times by greasy fingered punters in the store?

and as i've said before, even new vinyl has scratches and imperfections...it doesn't matter where you buy it.

if you've got some proof that someone is selling "used" for "new" then let's hear it...if not stop running your mouth just becuase you weren't paying enough attention

caveat emptor my friend, caveat emptor.
yaya... im not slandering everyone who works there im just not saying the name of the DJ because i dont have PROOF that this is happening i was just making a point about some of my experiences at this store. its not running my mouth its having my opinion like anyone else and telling you how i feel about it.
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see heres the other thing, i was going to post this a long time ago but i knew a bunch of you clowns would start arguing with me about it so i kept from posting it. but i bought another copy of one of the records today and it got me to thinking why not tell everyone how it went down and see if anyone else has had the same problem. ya thats your opinion and your free to tell me what you think, but im free to say what i think too and i defenitly did not post this to make people hate boom town or something. i wanted to start a thread and i did.
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I've been buying a LOT of records from Boomtown for a really long time. I've never had a problem with the records I've bought regardless if they've been taken home and played or hell, even dropped on the floor in the store for that matter.

Consider it a lesson learned to inspect the records better. You don't have to listen to the whole thing, but visually look at both sides of any record and listen to a good piece of it before you buy.

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see heres the other thing, i was going to post this a long time ago but i knew a bunch of you clowns would start arguing with me about it so i kept from posting it. but i bought another copy of one of the records today and it got me to thinking why not tell everyone how it went down and see if anyone else has had the same problem. ya thats your opinion and your free to tell me what you think, but im free to say what i think too and i defenitly did not post this to make people hate boom town or something. i wanted to start a thread and i did.
Nah man, you're in the clear. You did it in a respectable way. Don't worry about it.

Like you said, it's all about opinions.
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i think boomtown is a good store... and even if the employees were taking records home.. ide rather they take them home then have abunch of people off the street coming in and going though all the records not giving a shit...
second... if i owned my own store. i would do what ever i felt like doing... its my store and i paid for everything in there... so why not do what i want.... if someone had a problem (well then they can shop somewhere else)
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I've been buying a LOT of records from Boomtown for a really long time. I've never had a problem with the records I've bought regardless if they've been taken home and played or hell, even dropped on the floor in the store for that matter.

Consider it a lesson learned to inspect the records better. You don't have to listen to the whole thing, but visually look at both sides of any record and listen to a good piece of it before you buy.

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and i will make sure i do that from now on. i bought many records from boom town and there hasn't been a problem but these 3 breaks records there was. since everyone else has bought hundreds upon hundreds of records from there, i suppose 3 out of 100 000 isn't that bad.
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100,000 is quite a bit.. maybe 10,000 would be more realistic
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Werd...

Wood, Soda and Nicky are all well accomplished DJ's that not only know how to run a store, but ultimately know about record care. They know this shit so it's all good. Just be more cautious.

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100,000 is quite a bit.. maybe 10,000 would be more realistic
No.. Czech and Arkwell (Vinyl Ritchie) shop there... 100,000 might be accurate! ;)
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while on topic about boomtown.. i would like to make a some constructive cirtisizm.

When special orders are made... it would be nice if they could be kept under the counter and not in the on the shelves with the general order.
Not that this happens all the time, but once in a while it has..

I just want to make sure i get what i order and that no one else does..

But all in all.. boomtown is a good store that respects there customers and its good to have them in our city providing quality customer service!!
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and now the award for most ass kissing in a thread goes to.......... *drum roll please*....________ <-insert YOUR name here
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no chewy i think you were right, your always right.

of course im always right.. im the chewster.. the king of the chewbakas...

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