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Apr 19, 05
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Ah, that right... guess the inquistion could still be lurking around
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And PS he did get in.
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Brrrrrrring out the Comfy Chair!
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Here's another article: Papal hopeful is a former Hitler Youth Quote:
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There was, um, also that little matter of World War 2... wherein, if you were a citizen of one of the warring countries you were conscripted to go to war. The fact that he was in an AA unit, not the SS says a lot about how much of a 'nazi' he was. It is also interesting that he deserted the German army in 1944 - not exactly the type of behavior we'd expect from a staunch fascist - as well as an act that would require a lot of courage, considering they shoot you for that. Don't get me wrong - I have lots of problems with this pope (anti safe-sex, anti-gay, anti-choice, ect.) but being a 'mouthpiece of the jewish-nazi-lizard man-bush regime NWO' is not one of them.
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Apr 19, 05
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you bet I do. As for 'liberals pushing their shit on everyone else,' if you knew the first thing about liberalism (which you obviously don't - something surprising, since you claim to study political science) you'd know that one of its core tenets is the advocacy of liberty and tolerance. Liberalism is pushing 'our shit' on everyone else, and 'our shit' is the maximum possible liberty for each compatible with like liberty for all. Not something terribly controversial over here in canada. If you have a problem with 'our shit,' you might find yourself a little bit more at home with some of those hitler youth type - they seem to speak your language.
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Hitler was financed by all the major bankers, including Rothschild, so obviously it's not a "Jewish" conspiracy. I think the reason they let him lose was because his brand of "National Socialism" was not "international" kinda like the United Nations. In any case, Hitler himself called for a New World Order. You should just download 9/11: Road to Tyranny, i'm making a mess of this :(
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Apr 19, 05
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In Norway a business can be shut down if they don't employ at least 40 percent women. For fucks sake, they have quotas to "diversify" your workers if it doesn't resemble the United Colors of Benneton. In Britain it's considered a "hate crime" to use the word Homosexual in deragotory fashion. http://www.prisonplanet.com/page_12_07_02.mp3 Oh right, liberalism is all about "tolerance" until someone doesn't buy into their bullshit.
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Apr 19, 05
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A) for people in structurally disadvantaged positions to actually make use of their liberty, you sometimes have to infringe on the liberty of others. Hence the 'consistent with like liberty for all' part. [edit - most of those measures - like the one you are talking about, though I'm not familiar with it, are intended as 'short term' measures in the sense that they are attempts to use state power to change deeply embedded social structures that are preventing people from actually engaging in self determination or self development - like sexism in this case. Its pretty straightforward really.]
B) Norway =/= 'liberalism.' Norway is a country, Liberalism is an idea. No idea has ever been perfectly realized in the history of humanity. Its a guide and a goal. Last edited by -ff-; Apr 19, 05 at 08:50 PM.
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heh then there was that whole "Communist" fiasco...
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communism/ liberalism very, very different. Classical liberals (like adam smith) are staunch supporters of the free market. Private property is a big deal in liberal thought. Anyway, I'm going to go study for my exam now. FnK - as fun as it is - isn't grading me tomorrow.
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Apr 19, 05
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I know it's different, I was more referring to your "No idea has ever been perfectly realized in the history of humanity. Its a guide and a goal." comment. ;)
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Apr 19, 05
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someone's past dosn't have to affect his future negatively.
everyone has a history, in fact this may make him a more understanding and deeper person, he can understand alot of things because HE'S BEEN THERE. you know the saying about walking a mile in another mans shoes before judging him? well, he has walked a mile or so in the other mans shoes. sometimes survivalilst tactics must be used, perhaps his time as a nazi youth was just that, a survivalist tactic. i belive it was. why am i posting in this thread? i'm not catholic, hell, im not a part of any organized religion.
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Apr 20, 05
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For example, look at the half-baked Liberal wet dream of creating a "rainbow society" in every white western country. An admitted social experiment that has no basis in history for working, where you are transplanting and forcibly integrating people from one society into another and then finding out later that problems arise.  In other words, gee, who knew that Jihad and importing the Third World and dissolving the nation state wasn't really compatible with Scandinavian society? Do yourself a favor and type in the ever-benign words of "muslim + sweden" into google and note how virtually ever hit is negative. Or I'll save you the trouble  :Muslim Rape Epidemic in Sweden and Norway—Authorities Look the Other Way According to Swedish Radio on Tuesday, statistics from Sweden’s National Council for Crime Prevention show that the number of reported rapes against children is on the rise. The figures have nearly doubled in the last ten years: 467 rapes against children under the age of 15 were reported in 2004 compared with 258 in 1995. Legal proceedings continue this week in a case involving a 13 year old girl from Motala who was said to have been subjected to a group rape by four men. (Note: These four men were Kurdish Muslims, who raped the girl for hours and even took photos of doing so) [...] Swedish laws prohibiting "hate speech" against racial minorities have been vigorously enforced. There have, for example, been a number of gang-rapes of Swedish women by Muslim immigrants. But Swedes must be careful what they say about them. On May 25, neo-Nazi Bjorn Bjorkqvist was convicted and sentenced to two months in prison for writing, "I don’t think I am alone in feeling sick when reading about how Swedish girls are raped by immigrant hordes." ["Jag tror inte jag är ensam om att må dåligt när jag läser om hur svenska tjejer har våldtagits av invandrarhorder"] By infringing on people's liberties, liberals unilaterally act in reshaping society in their own image. In other words: A) Swedes never asked for this Third World invasion B) They probably don't want to associate with, much less employ these people which probably factors into their extremely high unemployment (90 percent in Malmo alone.) C) Swedes are being demonized for not accepting this tyranny, which only fuels the resentment A problem was created, and now the solution seems to be the regulation of thought and speech so as not to offend Muslim rapists, all the while society is being balkanized and subverted. The feminist movement pretty much functions in the way by first painting hetero-sexual relationships as "inherently oppressive" and then defining progress as destroying all the hitherto moral and social norms (i.e. pushing homos as normal, etc). The whole thing is all long-range sophisticated "problem, reaction, solution" as Alex Jones would say, in overthrowing Western Civilization.  Quote:
It's nice how this new definition of liberty really has no definition. What is the goal? perfect equality? One world, one flag? Communism? Liberalism is nothing more than social engineering.  /and scene. ps. for more information on feminism, visit www.savethemales.ca Last edited by wum; Apr 20, 05 at 12:40 AM.
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Apr 20, 05
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I believe that any one of us could be brainwashed...by our teachers especially. Think about if you went into grade five and your teachers main focus was to manipulate your beliefs and desensitize you for battle...they wanted to stunt the boys thought process as well by not stimulating their minds with anything but being trained for the army... I mean...you can say that it was the law as many times as you want, but it won't convince me that this guy wasn't effected by it at all. His beliefs are pretty hard and if you asked me I'd say he's had a troubled childhood or something wierd must have happened for him to acquire such odd beliefs. ~We should have a POPE IDOL show....where there's preach offs and the world votes with a panel of Priests!!
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We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teachers leave them kids alone Hey teacher leave them kids alone All in all it's just another brick in the wall All in all you're just another brick in the wall
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Apr 20, 05
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wum , your starting to put some pieces together but for god's sake stop reading soo much alex jones and dig a little deeper ... the man is the hard copy of conspiracy theorists and blows everything out of proportion to wow his target market AKA white middle class america
he plays the nazi card because he knows its what grabs people by the balls , and its the same reason i believe he professes to be a christian i do agree that there are heavy nazi connections in the vatican (or at least there were) but there are also heavy mafia connections . CIA connections ... the list goes on what i'm trying to say is that the relations between these organizations are not so black and white and there is alot of room for discrepancy , so just keep learning and don't let yourself fall into any one standpoint
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Apr 20, 05
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Thing is though with the whole Nazi Germany trip is that if you were not a Nazi then you were dead, for the most part. Basically the same trip that the US is starting to run "if you are not with us you are against us".
I know a few people that lived in Nazi Germany that had no disliking for jewish people, and their beliefs but had to join; otherwise life expectancy was majorly reduced. - ë
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